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TCX have operated a summer daily 757 to YYZ over the last few years and a weekly YMX. Both MYT & TCX also operate Calgary & Vancouver in summer with A330s. Canadian Affair are showing TCX & Air Transat flights from MAN S08.
I'd be very surprised if Zoom were not to appear too in time.
I'd be very surprised if Zoom were not to appear too in time.
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Well thats something I guess if we have have TSC, the charters and hopefully Zoom.
Quite a decline from AC at MAN if we look back, a mix of L1011's, 747's and 767's in the early days building up to daily frequency in summer and 3/4/5x weekly winter schedule (via GLA some winters I believe?) at its peak in the mid to late 90's. All seemed to go downhill after 9/11 as I recall, thats when it went summer only with BD even doing the honours for them one year, AC then returned with the actual operating period becoming less and less as each summer season passed. Did they even manage three full months this summer?
Still, if they they don't come back next year it will be a shame to loose an airline like AC from the schedules
Quite a decline from AC at MAN if we look back, a mix of L1011's, 747's and 767's in the early days building up to daily frequency in summer and 3/4/5x weekly winter schedule (via GLA some winters I believe?) at its peak in the mid to late 90's. All seemed to go downhill after 9/11 as I recall, thats when it went summer only with BD even doing the honours for them one year, AC then returned with the actual operating period becoming less and less as each summer season passed. Did they even manage three full months this summer?
Still, if they they don't come back next year it will be a shame to loose an airline like AC from the schedules
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and so the list continues.......With Air Transat..and Air Canada then???
Cathay,Malayasian,Iberia,Malev,Austrian,Alitalia,Air Jamaica,Portugalia,Maersk,Lot,Air Baltic,Estonian........To name a few.....Have Luxair gone yet??.....anybody anymore to add to the list?
What ever happened to the Cargolux service??
Makes me wonder why they ever bothered building the second runway!
Will the last one out please turn off the light
Cathay,Malayasian,Iberia,Malev,Austrian,Alitalia,Air Jamaica,Portugalia,Maersk,Lot,Air Baltic,Estonian........To name a few.....Have Luxair gone yet??.....anybody anymore to add to the list?
What ever happened to the Cargolux service??
Makes me wonder why they ever bothered building the second runway!
Will the last one out please turn off the light
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MAN Guy - pretty good history there. At one stage there was also CP operating to YYZ in competition with AC, before they bought them out.
I read somewhere once that the volume of VFR traffic was increasing between the South East and Toronto, and declining from the rest of the UK (including Scotland). Apparently far fewer of us have been emigrating to Canada since the early 80s.
I read somewhere once that the volume of VFR traffic was increasing between the South East and Toronto, and declining from the rest of the UK (including Scotland). Apparently far fewer of us have been emigrating to Canada since the early 80s.
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I was told that Air Transat contract not renewed due poor service and that TCX would take over all their flights?
Find it very hard to believe we won`t see Zoom next year
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Find it very hard to believe we won`t see Zoom next year
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I was told that Air Transat contract not renewed due poor service and that TCX would take over all their flights?
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ALL airports have a litany of airlines which once served them....long-haul into Brussels practically disappeared after SN's demise; there are scores of airlines which once served Chicago, SAA have pulled out of most European points etc....
MAN has all the right airlines that it can support; 4 daily into the Gulf hubs, SQ daily, 11 or so a day across the Atlantic. At the busiest times of day, there is generally a queue for the 2nd runway, and that's without having to factor in arrivals.
MAN has all the right airlines that it can support; 4 daily into the Gulf hubs, SQ daily, 11 or so a day across the Atlantic. At the busiest times of day, there is generally a queue for the 2nd runway, and that's without having to factor in arrivals.
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TS
TS have only pulled out of MAN & GLA leaving the flights to be operated by TCX instead. I don't think there is anything significant with TS other than better use of aircraft because MAN GLA and also I believe LGW to a degree have dedicated TCX aircraft for Canadian Affair flights to Canada.
As to Zoom unless anyone knows anything, I have heard nothing to suggest they are leaving and I would think it odd if they did. The doubt arises because all flights for summer next year other than MAN are on sale.
As to Zoom unless anyone knows anything, I have heard nothing to suggest they are leaving and I would think it odd if they did. The doubt arises because all flights for summer next year other than MAN are on sale.
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you were most probably delayed by atc restrictions at that time of the morning.
southbound restrictions 1 acft every 3 mins
north and east bound restrictions 1 acft every 4 mins
you were most probably delayed by atc restrictions at that time of the morning.
southbound restrictions 1 acft every 3 mins
north and east bound restrictions 1 acft every 4 mins
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I see that WW are to increase MAN ORK to 10 per week just after EI begin to compete with them on the route. EI operated MAN ORK from March to June but then pulled off the route just before the peak summer season.
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This used to be a double daily service with WW once upon a time. Just a small part of bmibaby's regular chopping and changing since they arrived at MAN. If my memory serves me correctly, they used to do PRG double daily back in the day too. This news probably spells the end of any slim hope of WW introducing a new route from MAN in the near future
With regards to next summer, you guys should stop panicking! It's far far too early to be worrying that routes aren't on sale etc. Many carriers are still to release/amend their schedules for summer 2008 & certain airlines don't release summer flights until well into December. If there's still no sign by February, then you have permission to panick
With regards to next summer, you guys should stop panicking! It's far far too early to be worrying that routes aren't on sale etc. Many carriers are still to release/amend their schedules for summer 2008 & certain airlines don't release summer flights until well into December. If there's still no sign by February, then you have permission to panick
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But remember T3 started the route in the first place and were crushed by AB low fares.
But their smaller A/C will do better as not as many seats to fill and most of the PAX will be business,so most of the fares will be covered by companies, I would imagine.
Just a thought.
But remember T3 started the route in the first place and were crushed by AB low fares.
But their smaller A/C will do better as not as many seats to fill and most of the PAX will be business,so most of the fares will be covered by companies, I would imagine.
Just a thought.
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STN
I think STN was destined to fail with AB -
1) unsustainable low fares
2) trying to run a hub and spoke locost network from MAN into STN (locosts tend work better point to point)
3) poor timings and frequency for business pax
Welcome back T3, smaller aircraft with more flexible frequency should make this one work again, as before. I've a sneaky feeling they might cut and run from INV though as BE are due to start this next year I believe?
1) unsustainable low fares
2) trying to run a hub and spoke locost network from MAN into STN (locosts tend work better point to point)
3) poor timings and frequency for business pax
Welcome back T3, smaller aircraft with more flexible frequency should make this one work again, as before. I've a sneaky feeling they might cut and run from INV though as BE are due to start this next year I believe?