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I imagine it is price driven, the same way Irish passengers fly via London, Paris and other hubs to the US when there are many direct options. The same is happening with AF flights to DUB, they are also bringing in passengers for the onward flights to the US.
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Ryanair are again operating a Cork-Bristol service for the Rugby. Flights leave Cork at 7.20 AM on Saturday the 24th, while the return on Sunday the 25th will leave Bristol at 19.00. Fares are €425 return. Unlike the last time, they are selling the return legs, i.e. Bristol-Cork on the Saturday and Cork-Bristol on the sunday with fares only €10/£10 one way. Quite a contrast in prices!
They've also put the Winter schedule up for the Cork based aircraft. Same as ever, 4 daily flights to Dublin and 1 to Gatwick. They haven't loaded flights from any other of their bases to Cork but presumably flights to Stansted, Liverpool, East Midlands, Prestwick and the 5th Dublin flight (operated by a Dublin based aircraft) will be loaded whenever schedules from those bases are loaded.
They've also put the Winter schedule up for the Cork based aircraft. Same as ever, 4 daily flights to Dublin and 1 to Gatwick. They haven't loaded flights from any other of their bases to Cork but presumably flights to Stansted, Liverpool, East Midlands, Prestwick and the 5th Dublin flight (operated by a Dublin based aircraft) will be loaded whenever schedules from those bases are loaded.
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Heineken cup 24 May - Found this list in Cardiff thread
Just checked the FID's system before I left and can now see the 24th May, Heineken Cup Final is going to be HUGE...........the list so far states the following airlines & aircraft
Aer Arann (AT7)
Aer Lingus (A330)
Aero Nova (SWM)
Astraeus (757)
Axis Airways (734)
BMI British Midland (321)
City Jet (AR8)
European Air Charter (732)
First Choice Airways (320)
Flightline (M83)
Futura Gael (734)
Highland Airways (J31)
Thomsonfly (757 & 733)
Travel Service Airlines (738)
Aer Arann (AT7)
Aer Lingus (A330)
Aero Nova (SWM)
Astraeus (757)
Axis Airways (734)
BMI British Midland (321)
City Jet (AR8)
European Air Charter (732)
First Choice Airways (320)
Flightline (M83)
Futura Gael (734)
Highland Airways (J31)
Thomsonfly (757 & 733)
Travel Service Airlines (738)
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Just noticed from the arrivals board than Aer Arann have 3 aircraft based at Cork again. The 3rd based aircraft went in January when Aer Arann lased an aircraft to Finland. We've had lots of W patterns since then for Edinburgh and Cardiff in particular. Presumably they had another new ATR 72 delivered recently. The French routes should be restarting soon for the summer.
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Ryan2000 >I'm told it's ready to be used but is awaiting some paper work to be completed.
Probably not a priority for management. They're indifferent to purchasing airbridges because airlines are unwilling to use them at all while others will only use them if there's no extra charge.<
The whole design of the airport is based on the use of airbridges ! Otherwise it would have made sense to have a ground level arrivals as in the old terminal.
Probably not a priority for management. They're indifferent to purchasing airbridges because airlines are unwilling to use them at all while others will only use them if there's no extra charge.<
The whole design of the airport is based on the use of airbridges ! Otherwise it would have made sense to have a ground level arrivals as in the old terminal.
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The whole design of the airport is based on the use of airbridges ! Otherwise it would have made sense to have a ground level arrivals as in the old terminal.
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"Ryan2000 >I'm told it's ready to be used but is awaiting some paper work to be completed. "
It was in use on Saturday 29 March as the Titan 757 from Lourdes was using it - was this just a one-off (mobility impaired passengers presumably)?
It was in use on Saturday 29 March as the Titan 757 from Lourdes was using it - was this just a one-off (mobility impaired passengers presumably)?
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Airbridges at Cork.
Part of the problem is that Aerlingus in particular changed to being a low cost carrier as the terminal was being constructed. It was they who quite rightly pressed for a new terminal with airbridges in the first place but that was in the pre 2001 days.
Most of the Cork airlines will use airbridges but unlike the legacy carriers of old including Aerlingus they are only prepared to pay a token charge for using them.
If CAA want airbridges they will have to fund the capital cost knowing that they will never see a financial return for their investment. The construction of covered walkways was seen as a greater priority as airbridges would only cater for aircraft in stands 7,8.9.10 while other pax would continue to get soaked.
Most of the Cork airlines will use airbridges but unlike the legacy carriers of old including Aerlingus they are only prepared to pay a token charge for using them.
If CAA want airbridges they will have to fund the capital cost knowing that they will never see a financial return for their investment. The construction of covered walkways was seen as a greater priority as airbridges would only cater for aircraft in stands 7,8.9.10 while other pax would continue to get soaked.
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I think the covered walkways are a great thing for the airport. In the short to medium term I think they will be used a lot more frequently than any additions airbridge might have been. I used the walkway coming from gate8 to one of the nearby stands and these stands will definatey come into their own on a wet, blustery, cold winter/summer/autumn/spring day. (delete season(s) as appropriate)
Ideally there would be a teloscopic covered walkway to take passengers right to the steps of the aircraft, but that is probably asking a bit much!!! One only finds them in COloumbia.
Ideally there would be a teloscopic covered walkway to take passengers right to the steps of the aircraft, but that is probably asking a bit much!!! One only finds them in COloumbia.
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From the Cork Airport website:
"The vital role played by air transport in our region and the commitment of airlines to enhancing services have seen passenger demand increase and Cork Airport has handled record volumes of traffic so far this year", said Kevin Cullinane, Marketing Manager, Cork Airport.
"Increases to frequency and capacity on routes operated both by Aer Lingus and Ryanair have been a significant contributing factor to the growth achieved so far this year, helping to make Cork and the Greater Munster region more accessible", he added.
Connectivity to and from London Heathrow with Aer Lingus has been boosted by an increase in seat capacity by the larger Airbus 321 aircraft operating five times daily this summer and an increase in passenger numbers of 14.5% in the first four months of 2008. Ryanair’s new services from Glasgow and Nottingham have contributed an additional 44,000 passengers from January to April inclusive.
The withdrawal of the Krakow, Warsaw and Wroclaw services by Centralwings slowed growth to and from Central and Eastern Europe for the first four months of the year. However, the continued connectivity offered by both Wizz Air and SkyEurope has helped boost overall passengers to and from Europe by 4%.
New Aer Lingus, Ryanair and Aer Arann scheduled services this summer to Jersey, Carcassonne, La Rochelle and Brest as well as new holiday flights to Santorini with XL.com this summer will see the Airport develop new traffic over the next six months. This will add to new services started by Air Southwest to Newquay and Plymouth in the past 10 days.
The Cork-Dublin route remains the second most popular route into and out of Cork Airport after London Heathrow with over 142,000 passengers flying between the Republic’s two largest cities in the first four months of the year.
"All in all, it has been four months of strong performance across the range of Irish, UK, Central and Eastern European destinations served by Cork Airport and we look forward to achieving further developments with our airline partners during the year," said Kevin Cullinane.
Wednesday, May 7th, 2008. Cork Airport recorded a 9% increase in passenger figures during the first four months of 2008 compared with last year. In total 1,004,777 passengers used the Airport in the past four months, an increase of 82,475 passengers on the same period last year.
"The vital role played by air transport in our region and the commitment of airlines to enhancing services have seen passenger demand increase and Cork Airport has handled record volumes of traffic so far this year", said Kevin Cullinane, Marketing Manager, Cork Airport.
"Increases to frequency and capacity on routes operated both by Aer Lingus and Ryanair have been a significant contributing factor to the growth achieved so far this year, helping to make Cork and the Greater Munster region more accessible", he added.
Connectivity to and from London Heathrow with Aer Lingus has been boosted by an increase in seat capacity by the larger Airbus 321 aircraft operating five times daily this summer and an increase in passenger numbers of 14.5% in the first four months of 2008. Ryanair’s new services from Glasgow and Nottingham have contributed an additional 44,000 passengers from January to April inclusive.
The withdrawal of the Krakow, Warsaw and Wroclaw services by Centralwings slowed growth to and from Central and Eastern Europe for the first four months of the year. However, the continued connectivity offered by both Wizz Air and SkyEurope has helped boost overall passengers to and from Europe by 4%.
New Aer Lingus, Ryanair and Aer Arann scheduled services this summer to Jersey, Carcassonne, La Rochelle and Brest as well as new holiday flights to Santorini with XL.com this summer will see the Airport develop new traffic over the next six months. This will add to new services started by Air Southwest to Newquay and Plymouth in the past 10 days.
The Cork-Dublin route remains the second most popular route into and out of Cork Airport after London Heathrow with over 142,000 passengers flying between the Republic’s two largest cities in the first four months of the year.
"All in all, it has been four months of strong performance across the range of Irish, UK, Central and Eastern European destinations served by Cork Airport and we look forward to achieving further developments with our airline partners during the year," said Kevin Cullinane.
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Well, that is good news. If this performance is continued throughout the year ORK should handle upwards of 3.5 million passengers.
Interestingly Sky Handling Partner seems to have won the WOW contract, I saw a lot of their agents around the Dash-8 last sunday. They also seem to have one or more of the charter airlines as well, Futura maybe? Its good to see them gaining some ground against servisair, who seem to be the only game in town at ORK most of the time.
Brian.
Interestingly Sky Handling Partner seems to have won the WOW contract, I saw a lot of their agents around the Dash-8 last sunday. They also seem to have one or more of the charter airlines as well, Futura maybe? Its good to see them gaining some ground against servisair, who seem to be the only game in town at ORK most of the time.
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Some food for thought for the comedians amongst us. Are you taking note of the following, Mr Cullinane?
Just heard in a southside bar in Cork fairly close to the airport:-
"Where ya flyin' outa?"
"Shannon!"
Music to the ears of the DAA.
Simple, as it should be?
Indeed it is!
Just heard in a southside bar in Cork fairly close to the airport:-
"Where ya flyin' outa?"
"Shannon!"
Music to the ears of the DAA.
Simple, as it should be?
Indeed it is!
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Do you know where they were going? Perhaps they were going to the US and so couldn't fly direct from Cork. You can't just jump to the conclusion that they were flying somewhere they could fly to from Cork. Also don't forget that people from Limerick & Clare fly from Cork when the destinations aren't available from Shannon, for example Amsterdam or Rome to name just two. It works both ways.
Do you know where they were going? Perhaps they were going to the US and so couldn't fly direct from Cork. You can't just jump to the conclusion that they were flying somewhere they could fly to from Cork. Also don't forget that people from Limerick & Clare fly from Cork when the destinations aren't available from Shannon, for example Amsterdam or Rome to name just two. It works both ways.
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Cork marketing Drive!
Heard the marketing team at Cork headed off to Portugal last Friday to attend a routes conference. Lets hope they'll bring some new business back with them as well as more sunshine!
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Yes, let us hope there is some good news on the horizon. As it stands there is just one opening for a new route from EI in the deep winter when they stop the Faro route for a few months with one sector free each day on Tuesdays, Thursdays & Saturdays. At present this is Cork's only hope for anything new.
I am sure the Cork marketing team would do okay at getting in new business except for spoiling tactics from Ryanair and especially from their Shannon operation. Ryanair's and Aer Lingus's bilateral pull out of Madrid-snn and Cork-Madrid in the past is testimony to that danger.
In the meantime Ryanair seem intent on continuing through the winter with their sole aircraft base at Cork shooting up and down to Dublin and with their singular flight to Gatwick. If there was any cop on they would at least do Gatwick twice daily. That at least might make reasonably good business sense?
So, as a marketing team what does Cork do? Live with the potential of negativity in the background and pray that Ryanair wont spoil it for them or try and search out for the sort of routes Ryanair would be less likely to try like to airports with very high charges?
It must be a tricky one for any airport's marketing team?
I am sure the Cork marketing team would do okay at getting in new business except for spoiling tactics from Ryanair and especially from their Shannon operation. Ryanair's and Aer Lingus's bilateral pull out of Madrid-snn and Cork-Madrid in the past is testimony to that danger.
In the meantime Ryanair seem intent on continuing through the winter with their sole aircraft base at Cork shooting up and down to Dublin and with their singular flight to Gatwick. If there was any cop on they would at least do Gatwick twice daily. That at least might make reasonably good business sense?
So, as a marketing team what does Cork do? Live with the potential of negativity in the background and pray that Ryanair wont spoil it for them or try and search out for the sort of routes Ryanair would be less likely to try like to airports with very high charges?
It must be a tricky one for any airport's marketing team?
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I guess they could point out that Ryanair only have a history of causing problems for certain airlines (Aer Lingus, EasyJet and to a lesser extent Aer Arann). They left Malev, Czech, CentralWings, SkyEurope and Wizzair alone. Not that it did a hell of a lot of good when it came to hanging on to the routes :-(
A question for someone who might remember... A few years ago, Swiss (or possibly Swissair) operated Cork-Zurich. Was this a scheduled service where most of the seats were sold to tour companies or was it a purely charter operation?
Also, do people reckon there could be a market for Zurich as a route nowadays? A medium sized hub, a major business destination, a city break, a gateway to winter sports and a history of Swiss tourists to Ireland. It would seem to have potential to me.
A question for someone who might remember... A few years ago, Swiss (or possibly Swissair) operated Cork-Zurich. Was this a scheduled service where most of the seats were sold to tour companies or was it a purely charter operation?
Also, do people reckon there could be a market for Zurich as a route nowadays? A medium sized hub, a major business destination, a city break, a gateway to winter sports and a history of Swiss tourists to Ireland. It would seem to have potential to me.
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Ryanair v Aerlingus at Cork
Ryanairs operation at Cork is not insignificant with 12 flights per day. Any further expansion would see them overtake EI as the biggest operator there.
I've a hunch that a SKI resort will fill the 3 vacant EI winter slots but time will tell.
At the end of the day any major growth at Cork will be undertaken by the big two rather than by nervous overseas operators.
I've a hunch that a SKI resort will fill the 3 vacant EI winter slots but time will tell.
At the end of the day any major growth at Cork will be undertaken by the big two rather than by nervous overseas operators.
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Ryanairs operation at Cork is not insignificant with 12 flights per day. Any further expansion would see them overtake EI as the biggest operator there.
I've a hunch that a SKI resort will fill the 3 vacant EI winter slots but time will tell