CORK - 5

[fivejuliet]

Schedules wont be loaded/fine tuned for another while.

Having recently seen load factors and yields from shannon it would be inappropriate for them to discontinue any Shannon route...

[brian_dromey]

Having recently seen load factors and yields from shannon it would be inappropriate for them to discontinue any Shannon route...

You'd never know, they might get a better offer from, say, oh, I dunno, Belfast perhaps! ;-)

Brian.

[Yeadon Dam]

Does anyone think that we might see Ryanair do a Cork-LBA service?

The reason I ask this, is that they seem to have beaten Aer Arann on the Western Eire front as Aer Arann seem to have pulled the Galway service from January.

[transmagnificat]

Where is this 'Western Eire front'?

[gaelgeoir]

Oh no, not another one!

The last thing PPRUNE needs is another hypersensitive Corkonian.

I think Yeadon Dam's question is a reasonable one.

[Tom the Tenor]

I must say that I find the Western Eire reference rather endearing. As for a likely Ryanair Cork - Leeds Bradford it is hard to see it happen at least for a while. Now, if the RE ORK-LBA ever grew enough to say two a day I think this would get the saliva glands going at FR HQ and they then might have a look at the route. It might be a different ball game if FR were to base aeroplanes at LBA - anything could then happen!

As for the hypersensitivity of Corkonians - Cork has every need to stand up for itself when it comes to costing of the new terminal at Cork and also to shout Stop to the way the Irish State through all it's available offices did all in it's power to stick up for Shannon via the stopover for so long and were content enough to let Cork and other Irish regional airports drift along with little direction.

Last August weekend there sure was a lot of bawling, roaring, gnashing of teeth, scowls etc for about the following two months from the midwest area about EI LHR-SNN.

Hypersensitivity, my eye?

[transmagnificat]

Well said, Tom the Tenor.

[fivejuliet]

You'd never know, they might get a better offer from, say, oh, I dunno, Belfast perhaps! ;-)

Brian.

Well, if you look at it that way


With FR after launching a SNN-LBA, dont think they would launch one from Cork anytime soon. I can't comment on what LBA has been doing like from Shannon as of yet, I have not seen the yields or loads (Even though I have seen the flights go out pretty full which is convincing). CAA website does not yet have October stats up

[en2r]

I don't think FR will start Cork-LBA. Aer Arann are already on the route with a daily service so FR would have to pay full airport charges at Cork, they wouldn't get any deal. I'd say they're far more likely to want to drive Aer Arann off Cork-Bristol than Cork-LBA since both Cork and Bristol are bases and LBA is not, or if they really want to upset Aer Arann they'll launch Cork-Edinburgh, Aer Arann's busiest route from Cork after Dublin.

[brian_dromey]

FR on ORK-LBA

I dont think we will see FR ON ORK-LBA any time soon. FR seem very keen not to duplicate routes from both ORK and SNN, and KIR also. Loads on the RE service to LBA are not exactly stunning on a consistent basis, usually around the 60% mark, but from time to time that can be quite heavy. Since EI have gone on MAN and RE have started LBA, WW the baby has behaved itself much more appropriately in the fares department. That said, 80EUR return is about as good as the RE fares have been, except during the initial few weeks of booking.

I think there are more obvious places to serve ORK from, both in the UK and Europe, Milan and any of the Scandinavian airports being two.

Im flying LBA-ORK on saturday, so Ill be sure to report back on loads.

[Yeadon Dam]

Thanks for the comments lads (and lasses?).

[ryan2000]

New Cork Route

Ryanair to announce a new route from Cork to Spain tomorrow.

[Shanwickman]

Yeadon Dam its nice to see that you at least know one word of the Irish language. Keep visiting here and you might learn a few more.

[en2r]

Ryanair to announce a new route from Cork to Spain tomorrow.

Thats brilliant news. If it happens it'll be Cork's first European Ryanair destination. Presumably its to a new destination so they'll get a deal on airport charges. I'd say Girona must be the most likely. It'd put pressure on EI to Barcelona, but Girona in itself is a growing sun destination so I'd say we have enough traffic to support the two. Or could it be Madrid returning now that they've axed Shannon-Madrid. Other possibilities could be Murcia, Valencia, Reus or Seville. I can't see them launching a route to north western Spain. My moneys still on Girona or Reus though since Ryanair want to put as much pressure on EI as possible and EI do very well on Barcelona.

[840]

Any idea where?

I assume it'll be one of their bases. With luck that would mean Valencia or Madrid, but with the way the industry works, it's more likely to be Alicante or Barcelona to ps off Aer Lingus.

Come to think of it, when Aer Lingus went off Alicante for the Winter, I remember someone remarking that they wouldn't be back on it for the Summer because Ryanair would be on it by then...

[fivejuliet]

What is your source for this claim?

It would have to be to a current base due to aircraft availability.

MAD aircraft are currently at capacity- and have had new routes announced recently therefore it looks unlikely.

Could be ALC due to new base

Also GRO would only be possible with route closure first from there to free up a/c

[Tom the Tenor]

Presumably there would little or no incentive on offer from Cork marketing for Alicante or even Girona? Dont see Madrid either though I would be over the moon about it on a peronal level. Alicante or Girona would spoil Aer Lingus's party all right but unless there would be some other incentive it is hard enough to see either route to Cork. A service from Girona may also go some way to eating into the snn-Girona yield so what are we left it? Valencia. That would be marvellous! I know someone that would be doing somersaults at the prospect of Valencia!

As for Reus or Murcia - not worth the trouble.

Interesting times!

[en2r]

malaga maybe?

RYAN2000 where did you come across this?

o leary advised no interest in cork expansion for 1 year at least recently!

With EI going daily next summer on Cork-Malaga, they would be really pissed off if FR did that. As for MOL saying no expansion for the next year, what MOL says and does are two completely different things. He said that there would be no expansion at all from Cork until they lowered their airport charges. Yet Ryanair are starting two new routes tomorrow, to East Midlands and Glasgow Prestwick. Or the time they moved 3 of the 7 weekly flights on the Cork-Liverpool route to Kerry, complaining of high airport charges at Cork, only for them to come crawling back 8 months later after Kerry-Liverpool was a disaster.

[brian_dromey]

Hmm, I would welcome FR on European routes out of ORK, and Spain is a logical first choice to test the water. I would like to see them into MAD, or any other airport/area not served by EI from ORK, and I think this is unlikely, as FR will have SNN in mind, and I don't think they will want to dilute the yield out of SNN. Somewhere in Northern Spain would be quite good, and a new area served too.

Brian.

[fivejuliet]

Again- Remember aircraft availability....unless they go basing another aircraft at Cork, they have to get an aircraft to operate the route somewhere..!