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Pez, think you've hit the nail on the head there mate, my guess is FCA will pull their a/c at CWL and crew merge over there, same as in TOM crew merge with FCA in BRS, this will mean minimal job losses at both bases and savings for the new company, the spare FCA aircraft i'm guessing will be plonked in EXT as a new base and to pick up any overspill in the west country from loosing the TOM a/c in BRS.
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Watabench, that all sounds feasible to me. It would have been nice to retain the aircraft at BRS though-whatever livery it's going to finally end up painted in!
I also heard the rumour last week that FCA are to set up a permanent base at EXT. I wonder how or if that will affect BRS based guys?
On the same topic; with the merger of MYT and TCX, has anyone heard or got any ideas as to the intentions of the company when it finally comes together with regards to its operations at BRS?
I suppose it would make sense that as TCX base a seasonal aircraft in the winter and MYT in the summer, to have a permanent base and aircraft for 'Thomas Travel' or 'My Cook' at BRS?!
Then again, the powers that be don't always make decisions that make sense! Any ideas?
I also heard the rumour last week that FCA are to set up a permanent base at EXT. I wonder how or if that will affect BRS based guys?
On the same topic; with the merger of MYT and TCX, has anyone heard or got any ideas as to the intentions of the company when it finally comes together with regards to its operations at BRS?
I suppose it would make sense that as TCX base a seasonal aircraft in the winter and MYT in the summer, to have a permanent base and aircraft for 'Thomas Travel' or 'My Cook' at BRS?!
Then again, the powers that be don't always make decisions that make sense! Any ideas?
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It does sound a good idea. Isn't the CWL based FCA actually a Skyservice A/C with a SkyService Flight deck? That would mean that there wouldn't be an extra a/c to move anywhere, just the Thomson 757 to CWL and the current FCA a/c will stay.
The FCA - TOM merger hasn't been given the go ahead yet though so it maybe TOM to CWL and FCA stay the same.
The FCA - TOM merger hasn't been given the go ahead yet though so it maybe TOM to CWL and FCA stay the same.
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Mathers..
The Skyserv 320 is an FCA unit. Its leased to SSV and then back to FCA with Canadian pilots (complicated).
So in other words, if FCA want to move it around or reg' it back to UK then they can (with a little notice of course).
Take my word....Cardiff FCA will probably go as of Summer '08, and will be announced today!
Grim times....and very annoying for all the staff that have worked so hard to put FCA up there at the top..!!
The Skyserv 320 is an FCA unit. Its leased to SSV and then back to FCA with Canadian pilots (complicated).
So in other words, if FCA want to move it around or reg' it back to UK then they can (with a little notice of course).
Take my word....Cardiff FCA will probably go as of Summer '08, and will be announced today!
Grim times....and very annoying for all the staff that have worked so hard to put FCA up there at the top..!!
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Lol verry complicated indeed. So is FCA going to leave CWL regardless of if the merger is given the go-ahead between TUI and FCA?
Whats the chances then of TCX moving it's A/C over to CWL? As MYT has an A/C based here in the summer and TCX use Aviance usually as a handling agent and it's all servisair at BRS?
Are we expecting anymore announcment of BRS based a/c being relocated to another base?
Whats the chances then of TCX moving it's A/C over to CWL? As MYT has an A/C based here in the summer and TCX use Aviance usually as a handling agent and it's all servisair at BRS?
Are we expecting anymore announcment of BRS based a/c being relocated to another base?
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Not sure what the master plan will be for TCX/MYT at BRS and CWL when their merger goes through, however I don't know if TCX would just do a straight swap of their a/c to CWL, as you have to remember that MYT also have a summer based a/c at BRS.
We'll just have to wait and see I guess!
We'll just have to wait and see I guess!
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aeulad - Hate to say i told you so but...........
Theres another announcement coming tomorrow regarding some well loved pink characters in BRS
Theres another announcement coming tomorrow regarding some well loved pink characters in BRS
However what a/c is based at LTN, could this go to BRS?
With TOM's 752 going, If FCA dont put anymore a/c in BRS thats quite a reduction in capacity! Especially is TOM will be selling seats on FCA flights!
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With FCA pulling out of CWL and LTN, and TOM pulling out of BRS, it looks to me as though the two companies are concentrating their efforts on their strongest/ biggest bases and pulling out of single a/c bases in preperation for any future merger.
Makes sense I suppose, however reducing capacity at BRS when there is a demand for it doesn't seem to make sense to me.
I only hope that BRS manages to get another based a/c out of this mess so that the good people of FCA and TOM based at BRS don't get shafted with job losses or base transfers!
Makes sense I suppose, however reducing capacity at BRS when there is a demand for it doesn't seem to make sense to me.
I only hope that BRS manages to get another based a/c out of this mess so that the good people of FCA and TOM based at BRS don't get shafted with job losses or base transfers!
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People this is whats happening, believe me I know....
FCA are losing a 320 from the fleet, so the LTN aircraft will in theory be sacraficed and the CWL unit moved to EXT, definatly not BRS.
So there will be a loss of capacity for the new joint venture TOM/FC in BRS from May 2008.
With a new based unit supping up capacity in EXT, this will also attract quite a few FCA crew who live down Devon way, meaning extra room for TOM crew and possibly CWL crew to join FCA in BRS or TOM in CWL.
There has been nothing said by TOM that the BRS 757 is going to CWL, infact i'd put money on it going elsewhere!
In my eyes there will be a loss of capacity in CWL also.
FCA are losing a 320 from the fleet, so the LTN aircraft will in theory be sacraficed and the CWL unit moved to EXT, definatly not BRS.
So there will be a loss of capacity for the new joint venture TOM/FC in BRS from May 2008.
With a new based unit supping up capacity in EXT, this will also attract quite a few FCA crew who live down Devon way, meaning extra room for TOM crew and possibly CWL crew to join FCA in BRS or TOM in CWL.
There has been nothing said by TOM that the BRS 757 is going to CWL, infact i'd put money on it going elsewhere!
In my eyes there will be a loss of capacity in CWL also.
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And for all FCA employees in LTN.......it is hard not to be cynical, we are told that it is nothing to do with the merger, but funny that TOM pull out of FCA stronghold of BRS and FCA pull out of LTN and CWL- both TOM main bases. It's not that I am implying anything, obviously, as the merger has yet to be approved and the company would never do anything to make that easier before it became a legality. Of course.
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A few things for you all to ponder
1. What's happened to the proposed GIB-BRS flights, has the airline not managed to get off the ground yet(pardon the pun) or has it been delayed(pardon the pun again)...........?
2. Why is the airport looking so tatty lately, there is a broken bit of glass by security that hasn't been fixed since last summer, there are huge poster spaces in the check-in hall with no advertising on them, the smart looking CO advertisments as you drive in are all to s**t, 1 is still up, 2 have gone and the other one has been ripped off at the bottom and is now flying in the air like some feeble windsock you would find at an abandoned strip in Norfolk.
Also since the strong winds ripped the massive easyjet advertisings on the roundabout about 3 months ago, its been bare ever since, i wonder how much the little structure cost to put up? my guess is that its not exactly reaping back the money by staying bare.
3. I hear EZY's 10th is coming at the end of may and 11th at the end of June, can anybody confirm this?
4. Welcome back to summer!!!!!!!!!!!!
1. What's happened to the proposed GIB-BRS flights, has the airline not managed to get off the ground yet(pardon the pun) or has it been delayed(pardon the pun again)...........?
2. Why is the airport looking so tatty lately, there is a broken bit of glass by security that hasn't been fixed since last summer, there are huge poster spaces in the check-in hall with no advertising on them, the smart looking CO advertisments as you drive in are all to s**t, 1 is still up, 2 have gone and the other one has been ripped off at the bottom and is now flying in the air like some feeble windsock you would find at an abandoned strip in Norfolk.
Also since the strong winds ripped the massive easyjet advertisings on the roundabout about 3 months ago, its been bare ever since, i wonder how much the little structure cost to put up? my guess is that its not exactly reaping back the money by staying bare.
3. I hear EZY's 10th is coming at the end of may and 11th at the end of June, can anybody confirm this?
4. Welcome back to summer!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Harry,
1. See post #245 herein re Gibraltar flights.
2. I agree the airport is looking a bit uncared for in places. I commented on this a few weeks ago. There seems to be perpetual improvements being carried out, at the moment of relatively minor nature, but if a substantial part of the master plan receives planning consent in due course I anticipate a major building site for a lot longer - a bit like the city of Bristol with all the work going on there.
3. It seems easy's schedule from late May will require the tenth aircraft - don't know about number eleven though.
4. Interesting to see what Air Southwest might be up to. They are pulling their CWL to NQY and MAN flights and reducing BRS-LBA from three daily rotations to two from July. At present they only fly within the UK but one wonders whether they are looking towards any of the former BAConnect European routes from BRS that might be too thin for the likes of easyJet.
5. Continental and BRS say that demand on the EWR route is very high this summer, citing the dollar/pound exchange rate as one possible reason. However, they also say that inbound pax now account for 40% of the traffic which sounds very good news because the inbound sector was always the Achilles Heel of this route.
1. See post #245 herein re Gibraltar flights.
2. I agree the airport is looking a bit uncared for in places. I commented on this a few weeks ago. There seems to be perpetual improvements being carried out, at the moment of relatively minor nature, but if a substantial part of the master plan receives planning consent in due course I anticipate a major building site for a lot longer - a bit like the city of Bristol with all the work going on there.
3. It seems easy's schedule from late May will require the tenth aircraft - don't know about number eleven though.
4. Interesting to see what Air Southwest might be up to. They are pulling their CWL to NQY and MAN flights and reducing BRS-LBA from three daily rotations to two from July. At present they only fly within the UK but one wonders whether they are looking towards any of the former BAConnect European routes from BRS that might be too thin for the likes of easyJet.
5. Continental and BRS say that demand on the EWR route is very high this summer, citing the dollar/pound exchange rate as one possible reason. However, they also say that inbound pax now account for 40% of the traffic which sounds very good news because the inbound sector was always the Achilles Heel of this route.
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10h aircraft for ezy is arriving in the next 2/3 weeks and then the schedule for ezy goes up to 42 flights on most days. it has been confirmed that there will not be an 11th aircraft this year but obviously not ruling it out for the future.
There's some interesting rumours circulating about Ryanair and an announcement in a couple of weeks, anyone want to hazard a guess about routes and number of aircraft to be based in Bristol? I'm guessing 4.