IRELAND WEST AIRPORT KNOCK
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Yep.. they're doing all right.
Does any know - do Ryanair have their own staff in there to look after their flights etc??? If so... that's a handy saving on the Knock payroll!! Which of course helps the bottom line!!
They have done alright on the auld Capital Development Grants - good luck to them. They obviously had a crystal ball and seen what was coming down the line...recession!!!
Does any know - do Ryanair have their own staff in there to look after their flights etc??? If so... that's a handy saving on the Knock payroll!! Which of course helps the bottom line!!
They have done alright on the auld Capital Development Grants - good luck to them. They obviously had a crystal ball and seen what was coming down the line...recession!!!
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From work I've done with Knock in the past my understanding was the main way they benefited was in charging a premium for "out of hours" [you can define that any you want when you run the airport!]. This meant being able to take a bit of extra cream compared to the standard rates, as any PSO operator would always be doing early morning and late evening rotations.
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Sikpupi "Does any know - do Ryanair have their own staff in there to look after their flights etc???"
No Ryanair don't do handling and only employ airport staff at their bases. The airport have their own handling company - Ireland West Airport Handling.
No Ryanair don't do handling and only employ airport staff at their bases. The airport have their own handling company - Ireland West Airport Handling.
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Ryanair actually do have their own check in staff and ticket desk at knock .They have had their own uniformed staff there for years. Knock looks after all ramp activities for ryanair though. Even when you ring the airport you are given an option to transfer to the ryanair office.
Knock handeling provide check in for all other carriers.Anyone know have they opened the new check in hall yet?
Knock handeling provide check in for all other carriers.Anyone know have they opened the new check in hall yet?
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ooooohhh!!! So. as I said earlier...there is a saving to Knock on wages here!! 3-4 Staff could save the €100k a year that other airports have to pay. All helps the bottom line!!! Strange that one...do they provide Checkin Staff in other airports like SNN & ORK which one would consider bigger airports???
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Well another good day for knock with the announcement of a thrice weekly service to leeds.I always thought this would have been a good route for jet2 but however thankyou to Ryanair.
Knock has a good solid UK schedule now with the exception of Bristol which doesent get the greatest of load factors
I still think edinburgh would be a good route for Knock better than Glasgow with it being a good city break destination. Jet 2 or flybe maybe.
It would be Good to see a few other airline brands come into the mix at Knock to keep Ryanair on their toes.
Well done to Knock
Knock has a good solid UK schedule now with the exception of Bristol which doesent get the greatest of load factors
I still think edinburgh would be a good route for Knock better than Glasgow with it being a good city break destination. Jet 2 or flybe maybe.
It would be Good to see a few other airline brands come into the mix at Knock to keep Ryanair on their toes.
Well done to Knock
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Ryanair did used to operate a twice weekly Leeds Bradford to Knock service in the late 80s. A few years before they reinvented themselves before the opening of the new Stansted.
It was BAC 1-11s, which were a great little plane!
It was BAC 1-11s, which were a great little plane!
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Monarch was a new charter carrier to Knock this year. I think the average load factor for these flights have been 90-100%. People dont want to go to DUB,ORK or SNN anymore to go on holiday!!
Well done knock airport. Just need a bigger ramp area!
Well done knock airport. Just need a bigger ramp area!
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Aer Lingus carried 8111 passengers on their LGW-NOC route in July compared to 7336 in June so it's continuing to do well throughout the summer. Hopefully it will be able to hold it's own during the winter.
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CAA stats
It is encouraging to see the LGW flight grow. The load factor for July was 76% which is very good.
However, Ryanair's STN flights showed good growth over last year at 16128 (giving load factor of just below 70% (assuming 2 a day frequency)up from 6988 same month LY.
Elsewhere;
Birmingham 6011 TY 6676 LY
Manchester6174 TY 8385 LY
Liverpool No record in CAA stats for this route. Strange
East Midlands No figures returned for 09. LY 4905
Luton 9485 TY 10217 LY
Bristol 0 TY 3993 LY
Glasgow 0 TY 2092 LY
Overall on the UK routes it shows a drop in passengers, however that measure excludes Liverpool and East Midlands. Making an assumption of these 2 routes numbers being similar to last year I think that the airport did quite well for the month.
However as stated earlier Charter work doing well this year (not sure on year on year numbers) aswell as the new Alicante route which is only 2 per week. Some good performances especially STN and LGW!
However, Ryanair's STN flights showed good growth over last year at 16128 (giving load factor of just below 70% (assuming 2 a day frequency)up from 6988 same month LY.
Elsewhere;
Birmingham 6011 TY 6676 LY
Manchester6174 TY 8385 LY
Liverpool No record in CAA stats for this route. Strange
East Midlands No figures returned for 09. LY 4905
Luton 9485 TY 10217 LY
Bristol 0 TY 3993 LY
Glasgow 0 TY 2092 LY
Overall on the UK routes it shows a drop in passengers, however that measure excludes Liverpool and East Midlands. Making an assumption of these 2 routes numbers being similar to last year I think that the airport did quite well for the month.
However as stated earlier Charter work doing well this year (not sure on year on year numbers) aswell as the new Alicante route which is only 2 per week. Some good performances especially STN and LGW!
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I used the LGW flight to connect from Dubai last month, service was grand, few empty seats but the crew said its one of their good flights, people buying a lot.
Apparently all Charters doing very but the obvious problem is baby, will it withstand Ryanair? BHX is surely feeling the pressure!
But they are Cat II now and have a nice modern extension to the terminal hopefully will be able to hold on through the summer.
Will be trying out the Alicante flight next month so it'll be interesting to see how its performing.
Apparently all Charters doing very but the obvious problem is baby, will it withstand Ryanair? BHX is surely feeling the pressure!
But they are Cat II now and have a nice modern extension to the terminal hopefully will be able to hold on through the summer.
Will be trying out the Alicante flight next month so it'll be interesting to see how its performing.
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No, METAR was for broken cloud 1200 ft and 14kt winds, so nothing too challenging but I believe Aer Arann pilots/aircraft aren't CAT II rated, often divert from ORK in low cloud base situations. Or it may have been a tech aircraft in DUB.
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Iwak.....personally I think the FR announcement of a 3x weekly LBA is bad news. It is in my view FR applying further pressure on Baby, and is saying hands off to any carrier interested in moving in should Baby falter. You will not see any further scheduled brands at NOC in the near future, in fact you may see a dilution. FR are repeating at NOC to a lesser extent what they did at SNN.
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While there is a sizable Irish community around Leeds and the NE, I agree with iwhak, it will further dilute BMI numbers on MAN, with LPL to the West and EMA to the South. BMIs numbers are down a couple of thousand compared to the years before EMA/LPL, though the LF held up last month at 70% (they may benefit a little over the winter from FR pulling SNN - MAN). The 733 is a good size for Babys routes, but many of Ryaniars regional routes would be better served with something smaller like A319 or RJs.
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I honestly dont agree with you I think lba can co exist with man. There is a huge west of ireland community in the north of england and a knock connection has been looked for for a long time.
I would say the airport offer a deal of some sort to lure airlines onto routes and I would imagine that they wouldnt be handing out money for one route to lose another .
I would not be surprised if Aer lingus took up the man route should baby go ,I dont think fr would let anybody else operate a bhx service since they have a base there. Im sure this has been discussed already and a plan is in place.
In times like these its about getting growth and in fairness to knock they have been adding to their list of destinations whilst others have been loosing them. However they need to be careful not to put all their eggs in the one basket with regard to Ryanair.
I would say the airport offer a deal of some sort to lure airlines onto routes and I would imagine that they wouldnt be handing out money for one route to lose another .
I would not be surprised if Aer lingus took up the man route should baby go ,I dont think fr would let anybody else operate a bhx service since they have a base there. Im sure this has been discussed already and a plan is in place.
In times like these its about getting growth and in fairness to knock they have been adding to their list of destinations whilst others have been loosing them. However they need to be careful not to put all their eggs in the one basket with regard to Ryanair.
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I don't think Aer Lingus will plan anymore expansion from Knock, at best there might be a twice daily to Gatwick but I'd say that's a long way off. Can't see them starting MAN but then again you just never know with Aer Lingus.