IRELAND WEST AIRPORT KNOCK
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Apparently there was an article in the Sunday Times about Highland Airways getting the PSO next week (no link online) so probably a Jetstream 41 if it has to follow the letter of the contract.
The ATR was fine, and I liked the Dash 8 when Air SouthWest covered some routes AerArann last winter, really friendly crew too.
The ATR was fine, and I liked the Dash 8 when Air SouthWest covered some routes AerArann last winter, really friendly crew too.
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I have seen the article in a western paper too, I hope this is not the case. I would prefer to see an Irish carrier be awarded the route first especially when they have bid for it and have a more comfortable aircraft. I hope the thought of Aranns monopoly on the pso routes does not play a factor because of some rants in the media as they do have the correct aircraft to operate the route if they can.Even Ryanair after that but a 738 is total over kill.I think these would be a sounder options after loganair being awarded the route before dropping it out of the blue.
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Oleary is quoted in the irish times saying he wants to operate the knock pso route and has sent two letters expressing his interest but still hasnt heard any reply from the department of transport.
The only way he could operate the route would be to base an aircraft in Knock similar to what he has done in Kerry.
It also stated in the article that cityjet were trying to offload the route to highland airways the j41 is one seat below the required min of 30 seats each way I wonder would this be acceptable or maybe they might lease an aircraft to service the route and operate an inverness dublin sector since aer arann are pulling the route.
The only way he could operate the route would be to base an aircraft in Knock similar to what he has done in Kerry.
It also stated in the article that cityjet were trying to offload the route to highland airways the j41 is one seat below the required min of 30 seats each way I wonder would this be acceptable or maybe they might lease an aircraft to service the route and operate an inverness dublin sector since aer arann are pulling the route.
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Aer Arann regain PSO route
And some details:
Ireland West Airport Knock
RTÉ Business: Aer Arann to restart Knock PSO route
Ireland West Airport Knock
RTÉ Business: Aer Arann to restart Knock PSO route
There is currently no service on the route as CityJet pulled out, having won the tender earlier this year. Aer Arann had operated the route until July.
Aer Arann will provide a daily early morning service from Knock to Dublin and an evening return service, beginning on October 1.
Aer Arann will provide a daily early morning service from Knock to Dublin and an evening return service, beginning on October 1.
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Thats great news I thought they were ruled out due to lack of aircraft but obviously not. It was looking like highland airways there for a while but give me an atr anyday over a j41.
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Hi guys
More positive news for knock today with the introduction of the first international scheduled route to alicante with ryanair. Considering all the doom and gloom knock is still moving onwards and upwards. Aer lingus returning in march with a daily lgw service and new terminal opening in march .
On the negative side glasgow seems to be gone after winter timetable.Personally I think that route would be more suited to a flybe dash 8.Wont be a big loss as it was only twice weekly.
On another topic Ryanairs challenge on the Knock pso being awarded to aer arann is in the commercial court on jan 20th so we may see ryanair doing double daily on the dublin route should the route be retendered.
More positive news for knock today with the introduction of the first international scheduled route to alicante with ryanair. Considering all the doom and gloom knock is still moving onwards and upwards. Aer lingus returning in march with a daily lgw service and new terminal opening in march .
On the negative side glasgow seems to be gone after winter timetable.Personally I think that route would be more suited to a flybe dash 8.Wont be a big loss as it was only twice weekly.
On another topic Ryanairs challenge on the Knock pso being awarded to aer arann is in the commercial court on jan 20th so we may see ryanair doing double daily on the dublin route should the route be retendered.
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iwak....
For once I have to agree.....the fortunes of NOC have not been badly affected by the seismic downturn, unlike Galway, which is now a ghost town. Incidentally mentioning Galway, has anyone noticed that they have introduced a turning pad on the 26 end, and most unusually with inner taxiway markings, however, if you follow the markings you end up with a mainwheel in the grass, surely this is an incident waiting to happen, particularly an unfamilar jock at nightime. But, back on track yes well done to NOC. How's the rest of the management keeping up there wak?
For once I have to agree.....the fortunes of NOC have not been badly affected by the seismic downturn, unlike Galway, which is now a ghost town. Incidentally mentioning Galway, has anyone noticed that they have introduced a turning pad on the 26 end, and most unusually with inner taxiway markings, however, if you follow the markings you end up with a mainwheel in the grass, surely this is an incident waiting to happen, particularly an unfamilar jock at nightime. But, back on track yes well done to NOC. How's the rest of the management keeping up there wak?
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Hi airnoc
This is the same as last year and they have been twice daily at the weekends over the winter timetable.
I wouldnt be surprised if fr stepped in to do glasgow or maybe even edinburgh for the summer. Edinburgh would be great !
This is the same as last year and they have been twice daily at the weekends over the winter timetable.
I wouldnt be surprised if fr stepped in to do glasgow or maybe even edinburgh for the summer. Edinburgh would be great !
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Congrat to Liam Scollan on now being chairman. Glad that Joe kennedy has stay onboard 
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Interesting to see which Fr or EI will launch the next European route into Knock now that ryanair has fail so far in its bid for Aer lingus.
Is Bmi baby gone from the glasgow route should try Edinburgh route.
.Interesting to see which Fr or EI will launch the next European route into Knock now that ryanair has fail so far in its bid for Aer lingus.
Is Bmi baby gone from the glasgow route should try Edinburgh route.
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Airnoc.....would you mind de-coding your last post! Edindurgh is a non starter.....FR are struggling with it out of SNN and RE currently operate it from Galway.
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I think he's referring to management changes at the airport. Liam Scollan is to become chairman replacing Joe kennedy.
Scollan in new role as Knock chairman - Irish - Independent.ie
Also noted in the article that they made a modest profit in 08, a rare achievement for any airport, so they do seem to be doing well given the current market and considering they say they receive no annual subsidy.
Scollan in new role as Knock chairman - Irish - Independent.ie
Also noted in the article that they made a modest profit in 08, a rare achievement for any airport, so they do seem to be doing well given the current market and considering they say they receive no annual subsidy.
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That profit was in 2006. Given that quite a lot has changed since then, the picture is probably very different now....
Also refers to the PSOs which is a common mistake as it's the airlines that benfit most from the PSOs...
Also refers to the PSOs which is a common mistake as it's the airlines that benfit most from the PSOs...
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Angry rebel.....actually no it's the airports that benefit most, because they get to charge their full published rates, which are amongst the industry highest (landing and pax). Have a look at the charges for the regionals. As an aside during the few mins I spent looking at the charges Galway's shedule of charges seems to be copied from BOH's, is there a link there?
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Scollan is on record at the Dail Transport Committee saying they were profitable in 2008. From their website:
“Contrary to some perceptions, Ireland West Knock provides low cost aviation charges and is a profitable and independent airport receiving no operational subsidy with 97% of traffic stemming from international connections to 28 destinations,” said Mr. Scollan.
Ireland West Airport Knock
“Contrary to some perceptions, Ireland West Knock provides low cost aviation charges and is a profitable and independent airport receiving no operational subsidy with 97% of traffic stemming from international connections to 28 destinations,” said Mr. Scollan.
Ireland West Airport Knock