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Another route that hasn't performed in line with their Route Assessment Model.
Wonder how the capacity will be redeployed - any obvious opportunities from LCY?
Another route that hasn't performed in line with their Route Assessment Model.
Wonder how the capacity will be redeployed - any obvious opportunities from LCY?
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For the life of me I can't work out what Route Assessment Model would say YES to going head to head with two other airlines!
Of course going back to when Ryanair started, Aer Lingus failed to appreciate that Ryanair grew the market overall, so maybe FlyBe thought something similar would happen.
But nowadays the big boys have learnt how to play the low cost airlines at their own game.
Still, there's something exciting about an airline like FlyBe trying new things. I just hope they don't trash their reputation/finances in the process.
Of course going back to when Ryanair started, Aer Lingus failed to appreciate that Ryanair grew the market overall, so maybe FlyBe thought something similar would happen.
But nowadays the big boys have learnt how to play the low cost airlines at their own game.
Still, there's something exciting about an airline like FlyBe trying new things. I just hope they don't trash their reputation/finances in the process.
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I enjoyed my day trip - but at Dublin there were 2 other services waiting around to board at the same time!
(FlyBe seems to just start and stop services continuously)
(FlyBe seems to just start and stop services continuously)
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I guess it's important to factor in that there are a couple of material things that have likely contributed to Flybe's decision.
1. At the time they launched DUBLCY, it was to go up against a weak incumbent in WX. Only after BE launched did BA also decide to compete and lauch its own services.
2. The decision by WX to sell and lease back some of its RJ fleet has likely provided them cash to compete for longer.
On the face of it, with no change in competitive environment approaching I guess BE have decided to put their efforts elsewhere - not an unreasonable decision on the face of it. In the end, WX still have competition on the route which was the intention when BE started, it just comes from BA, not BE. Should WX fail in the future, I think it reasonable to expect BE to jump back in once more.
1. At the time they launched DUBLCY, it was to go up against a weak incumbent in WX. Only after BE launched did BA also decide to compete and lauch its own services.
2. The decision by WX to sell and lease back some of its RJ fleet has likely provided them cash to compete for longer.
On the face of it, with no change in competitive environment approaching I guess BE have decided to put their efforts elsewhere - not an unreasonable decision on the face of it. In the end, WX still have competition on the route which was the intention when BE started, it just comes from BA, not BE. Should WX fail in the future, I think it reasonable to expect BE to jump back in once more.
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Now that he wants to be PM he doesn't have to worry about this particular bunch of locals, because he only has to be nice to another lot 
Further report here:
The Independent | Video
Further report here:The Independent | Video
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Fascinating political shenanigans...
Does the airport sit tight until (perhaps) 16th May 2016...when the "affable buffoon" [numerous sources] Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson will have stepped down having been summoned to parliament as the "honourable member" for Uxbridge & South Ruislip on 18th May 2015?
As I understand it he could step down from his mayoral role up to 6 months before the end of his mayoral term.
It seems odd to me that he has chosen to snub the airport development - particularly on grounds of noise...in 2009 the airport obtained permission for 120,000 flights per year - the development programme, and latest planning application, actually sought to cap this at 111,000 whilst also allowing newer, quieter aircraft to operate to/from the airport.
As mayor he champions the transport links the airport provides to international investors when it suits him, e.g. Silvertown Quays project, Royal Albert docks, etc.
Mind you, his integrity was brought into question by Channel 4 when they launched an investigation into the track record in China of the firm which won the Royal Albert Dock contract - ABP - and into whether ABP were given favourable treatment during the tender process.
There were also questions over donations to the Conservative Party from an Anglo-Chinese businesswoman who acted as adviser to ABP. "It has the smell of a semi-corrupt arrangement, doesn't it?" [Sir Alistair Graham]
And so I wonder how his next political office will go? More of the same I imagine - he's a politician after all. I wish him all the best in his new venture - hopefully there'll be less wiff(-waff) of him in the east end.
Does the airport sit tight until (perhaps) 16th May 2016...when the "affable buffoon" [numerous sources] Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson will have stepped down having been summoned to parliament as the "honourable member" for Uxbridge & South Ruislip on 18th May 2015?
As I understand it he could step down from his mayoral role up to 6 months before the end of his mayoral term.
It seems odd to me that he has chosen to snub the airport development - particularly on grounds of noise...in 2009 the airport obtained permission for 120,000 flights per year - the development programme, and latest planning application, actually sought to cap this at 111,000 whilst also allowing newer, quieter aircraft to operate to/from the airport.
As mayor he champions the transport links the airport provides to international investors when it suits him, e.g. Silvertown Quays project, Royal Albert docks, etc.
Mind you, his integrity was brought into question by Channel 4 when they launched an investigation into the track record in China of the firm which won the Royal Albert Dock contract - ABP - and into whether ABP were given favourable treatment during the tender process.
There were also questions over donations to the Conservative Party from an Anglo-Chinese businesswoman who acted as adviser to ABP. "It has the smell of a semi-corrupt arrangement, doesn't it?" [Sir Alistair Graham]
And so I wonder how his next political office will go? More of the same I imagine - he's a politician after all. I wish him all the best in his new venture - hopefully there'll be less wiff(-waff) of him in the east end.
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It's retribution for a bloody nose over Royal Albert Docks - the plans were announced in a blaze of glory with a lot of love given to the new best friends in China. But they forgot the small matter of asking the neighbours what they thought - i.e LCY.
Turns out that downdrafts from some of the buildings proposed would pose a danger for aircraft thus the plans as originally displayed cannot go ahead.
Turns out that downdrafts from some of the buildings proposed would pose a danger for aircraft thus the plans as originally displayed cannot go ahead.
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Boris says 'no' to expansion plans:
http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/news...ity_airport_1_ 4011443
Boris says 'no' to expansion plans:
http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/news...ity_airport_1_ 4011443
Is this for the benefit of East Londoners as claimed, or for the benefit of his dream scheme at Grain?
Does the airport sit tight until (perhaps) 16th May 2016...when the "affable buffoon" [numerous sources] Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson will have stepped down having been summoned to parliament as the "honourable member" for Uxbridge & South Ruislip on 18th May 2015?
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FlyBe LCY to Belfast
I wonder if the scheduler at Flybe is feeling better yet.
With the new timetables from summer time this last weekend, the four daily departures on a Q400 to Belfast, a route where, based on past history, they are going to have to try really hard, are :
0845 - 1540 - 1615 - 1935
Yes, of the four daily flights, in mid-afternoon there are two departing 35 minutes apart.
I'm trying to help. I'm about to book the route again. But however do they expect to get a good load on both flights. It may be they feel that 50% of the total commercial demand is for a mid-afternoon departure. Although I somehow doubt it.
With the new timetables from summer time this last weekend, the four daily departures on a Q400 to Belfast, a route where, based on past history, they are going to have to try really hard, are :
0845 - 1540 - 1615 - 1935
Yes, of the four daily flights, in mid-afternoon there are two departing 35 minutes apart.
I'm trying to help. I'm about to book the route again. But however do they expect to get a good load on both flights. It may be they feel that 50% of the total commercial demand is for a mid-afternoon departure. Although I somehow doubt it.
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Not just LCY, Flybe now have flights to Man from the IOM at 06.30 11.15 11.45 17.35 20.20.
So two flights in the middle of the day 30 minutes apart and have completely mucked up the connections in the evening to the Manchester hub
So two flights in the middle of the day 30 minutes apart and have completely mucked up the connections in the evening to the Manchester hub
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As far as LCY goes it could be just about slot availability! Have you been there in the evenings? the place is rammed, we couldn't even land due no stand availability the other evening from EDI held about 20 mins.
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What is your defining criteria for unnecessary? Surely many airports have less than full flights to many destinations off peak and even some at peak. I'm sure the passengers such as myself in the regions would appreciate routes being cancelled just because they aren't 90-100% full. Serving the regions is just as important to the UK economy as serving euro holiday and business routes. Maybe you don't feel the same way?
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too many unnecessary LCY domestic flights often running half empty outwith peak
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Wasn't BA CityFlyer's LCY-DUS upguaged to the ERJ170? I notice the second Saab 2000 (G-CERZ) is back with BA titles again and operating this route.