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It's gone back to the SAAB for the summer to free up a 170 for our increased summer schedule. No doubt it'll upset the passengers to be messed around again. Sometimes those in the Tower never learn.
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Nice. I'm surprised the BA service to Nice still has 3 months off from November to February, and then just comes back on odd days until the summer really gets going. It's quite a commercial and business destination nowadays, a lot of year-round IT and film industry trade down there, and with many daily BA departures there from Heathrow that continue through the winter period. A few years ago both Cityjet and BA ran there in the summer. Do the loads really fall off to City but not to Heathrow ?
I've more than once had to get across to Heathrow when going there, just because there wasn't an LCY service on the relevant day.
I've more than once had to get across to Heathrow when going there, just because there wasn't an LCY service on the relevant day.
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Arrived from Ronaldsway last night on the BA3287 and parked on Stand 6 which has no access to Domestic and IOM arrivals. The absence of bus was a clue......I was a little surprised when we were directed to UK Border with a little Asian man literally hyperventilating with excitement as he instructed people where to go and how to use the automatic machines.
He singularly could not understand the simple concept that the Isle of Man was not an international arrival, the UK Border guys were a little more shall we say.... surprised. Little bit facepalm....
In all seriousness though, this is pretty basic stuff to get wrong, just as well it wasn't the other way, Intl via Domestic (!)
He singularly could not understand the simple concept that the Isle of Man was not an international arrival, the UK Border guys were a little more shall we say.... surprised. Little bit facepalm....
In all seriousness though, this is pretty basic stuff to get wrong, just as well it wasn't the other way, Intl via Domestic (!)
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Skip I'm guessing you were hand baggage only but I wonder whether they then delivered the bags to the international "hall" or to the more usual domestic one. More chaos and delay if so.
Never happened to me (yet) - they usually park on stands 21-24 or 1-2 to avoid bussing but with the advent of BE domestic services I guess these are under pressure. Lately I've been bussed to/from what I guess must be stand 11 or 12 right at the west end of the field.
Perhaps the handling agents mistook the aircraft was for the S2000 Rotterdam rotation???
Never happened to me (yet) - they usually park on stands 21-24 or 1-2 to avoid bussing but with the advent of BE domestic services I guess these are under pressure. Lately I've been bussed to/from what I guess must be stand 11 or 12 right at the west end of the field.
Perhaps the handling agents mistook the aircraft was for the S2000 Rotterdam rotation???
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Seems some sort of structural failure in the runway (reinforced concrete) closed it all morning today pending some civil engineering remedials. Failures in mass concrete are always more challenging to fix than asphalt. Any more technical details ? (I'm aware that what the press writes about as "the runway" could be anywhere).
Good thing I'm travelling tomorrow not today
Good thing I'm travelling tomorrow not today
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If you sneak over to the flyertalk BA forum, there's a thread there that includes a photo of the repair crew at work this morning. Definitely seems to be the runway itself rather than apron area.
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I did notice a surprisingly large concrete patch in the runway structure at that point on taxying out.
Meanwhile, back in the terminal in the morning rush (but not the hugest rush I have seen there), there was a contrast in the retail units. In the front of the departure lounge there is a Nero coffee counter, about the only catering concession, and next to it a jewellery store. The jewellery store appears to have a larger floorspace than the coffee place, notwithstanding which, as I have noticed previously, it was (of course) doing absolutely zero business. The huge queue for the coffee counter stretched right past it and round the corner, while the staff worked as best they could in their little constrained space, which can't be expanded as long as the jewellery store is there. It would have been pleasant to have got something there but I just would not have got served in time.
Ok Mr Business Traveller at LCY, when you go in there to wait for your 8 am flight, what were you really looking for before the flight goes - a cup of coffee and a pastry - or a diamond necklace ?
Meanwhile, back in the terminal in the morning rush (but not the hugest rush I have seen there), there was a contrast in the retail units. In the front of the departure lounge there is a Nero coffee counter, about the only catering concession, and next to it a jewellery store. The jewellery store appears to have a larger floorspace than the coffee place, notwithstanding which, as I have noticed previously, it was (of course) doing absolutely zero business. The huge queue for the coffee counter stretched right past it and round the corner, while the staff worked as best they could in their little constrained space, which can't be expanded as long as the jewellery store is there. It would have been pleasant to have got something there but I just would not have got served in time.
Ok Mr Business Traveller at LCY, when you go in there to wait for your 8 am flight, what were you really looking for before the flight goes - a cup of coffee and a pastry - or a diamond necklace ?
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Ok Mr Business Traveller at LCY, when you go in there to wait for your 8 am flight, what were you really looking for before the flight goes - a cup of coffee and a pastry - or a diamond necklace ?
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Rumour in some message boards on the continent has it that Skywork is looking at resurrecting the LCYBSL link that will end with the withdrawal by Swiss at the end of May. Any more substantial mumblings to that effect at the English end of the route?
Would be quite interesting as Skywork left LCY for SEN not too long ago citing lower costs as the main driver for the decision, IIRC. Not sure what that would mean for the SENBRN link which appears to be not bookable beyond the end of the summer schedule.
Would be quite interesting as Skywork left LCY for SEN not too long ago citing lower costs as the main driver for the decision, IIRC. Not sure what that would mean for the SENBRN link which appears to be not bookable beyond the end of the summer schedule.
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For about the last week the road route from LCY into Central London has been grossly congested, all the way back past LCY, due to the works now started for the new "Cycle Super Highway" along The Embankment. This morning was the worst, at 0900 it took about an extra hour. This even significantly impacts on journeys like LCY to Canary Wharf, because the congestion now reaches back this far.
How is the airport going to react to this significant reduction in their accessibility. The reduction in width along The Embankment and through the City of London to just one lane is part of the permanent scheme; it's not going to go away, and the resulting congestion suddenly reaches back for miles where it did not used to do so.
How is the airport going to react to this significant reduction in their accessibility. The reduction in width along The Embankment and through the City of London to just one lane is part of the permanent scheme; it's not going to go away, and the resulting congestion suddenly reaches back for miles where it did not used to do so.
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What percentage of travellers with final destination in the City are connecting to/from public transport, particularly the DLR? I have never used anything else than the DLR ever since it was openend....
PS: Yes, I know that for some travellers public transport is impractical / not an option.
PS: Yes, I know that for some travellers public transport is impractical / not an option.
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Well the vast numbers of taxis and Addison Lee cars, Mercedes Limos, etc outside the terminal or waiting in various points around the airport should give you a bit of a clue. I think you will also find that the higher yield passengers (aren't those the ones airlines tend to prefer) are less likely to be those squished in the DLR.
Do any of those arriving at the Jet Centre continue their journey on the DLR ?
Do any of those arriving at the Jet Centre continue their journey on the DLR ?
51% used the DLR in 2011. Apparantly not one passengers caught a bus. Remember in a lot of analysis done by other airports, black cabs count as public transport too! http://www.londoncityairport.com/con...PAX_Access.pdf
The DLR figure has since risen to well above 60% I believe. Next time you are travelling through LCY, when you go up the esculator to security, it is one of the "fun stats" that are on the walls. When crossrail opens at Canning town, maybe the figure will approach 75%.
A friend who works there told me the jewellery store (on average) actually has a very good taking, for often only 1 member of staff overhead. At quiter times of the day, Neros has lots of staff and no-one to serve. There are other coffee shops before and after security too. But once the expansion of departures is complete hopefully they'll be more space for everyone.
The DLR figure has since risen to well above 60% I believe. Next time you are travelling through LCY, when you go up the esculator to security, it is one of the "fun stats" that are on the walls. When crossrail opens at Canning town, maybe the figure will approach 75%.
A friend who works there told me the jewellery store (on average) actually has a very good taking, for often only 1 member of staff overhead. At quiter times of the day, Neros has lots of staff and no-one to serve. There are other coffee shops before and after security too. But once the expansion of departures is complete hopefully they'll be more space for everyone.
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"How is the airport going to react to this significant reduction in their accessibility. The reduction in width along The Embankment and through the City of London to just one lane is part of the permanent scheme; it's not going to go away"
Perhaps the airport owners will encourage an even higher proportion of travellers to use the DLR? The (democratically elected) Mayor has decreed that road space should be reallocated to make cycling safer in London, so businesses will need to adjust accordingly. In fact, many major employers and NHS trusts have publicly backed this development.
The reduction of road capacity at certain points doesn't really affect the competitive position of LCY. After all, those sitting in traffic headed for LHR will also sit a bit longer.
Perhaps the airport owners will encourage an even higher proportion of travellers to use the DLR? The (democratically elected) Mayor has decreed that road space should be reallocated to make cycling safer in London, so businesses will need to adjust accordingly. In fact, many major employers and NHS trusts have publicly backed this development.
The reduction of road capacity at certain points doesn't really affect the competitive position of LCY. After all, those sitting in traffic headed for LHR will also sit a bit longer.
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Rumour in some message boards on the continent has it that Skywork is looking at resurrecting the LCYBSL link that will end with the withdrawal by Swiss at the end of May. Any more substantial mumblings to that effect at the English end of the route?
As for Skywork, they are obviously after one of Darwin's Saab 2000s.
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OK, here we go - it is..............................Skywork.
Starting July 19, LCY-BSL-BRN, 6 weekly flights (X6) and from August 31, 12 weekly flights (double daily Mo-Fr, once daily SatSun). Saab 2000, opb Darwin.
Flight schedule for SEN-BRN will be "adjusted" later depending on "demand". Not only because of this strange wording, it seems to be a somewhat hasty decision as the press release also says that flights are subject to traffic rights and suitable slots at LCY - something you would expect to be in order before a new route is announced (I don't think I am allowed to link to the press release...)
Starting July 19, LCY-BSL-BRN, 6 weekly flights (X6) and from August 31, 12 weekly flights (double daily Mo-Fr, once daily SatSun). Saab 2000, opb Darwin.
Flight schedule for SEN-BRN will be "adjusted" later depending on "demand". Not only because of this strange wording, it seems to be a somewhat hasty decision as the press release also says that flights are subject to traffic rights and suitable slots at LCY - something you would expect to be in order before a new route is announced (I don't think I am allowed to link to the press release...)
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I see that Swiss have started the changeover from their 146/RJ to the Embraer 190, possibly from yesterday, 1 June. Just seems a shame that the good old Woodford product is slowly disappearing; I think that LCY has to be the last place in the UK where you can still see UK-built jetliners in some quantity.