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Old 18th May 2016, 15:36
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their new Canadian schoolteacher owners - whose comprehension of aviation in another continent cannot be top of their teaching abilities.
Don't be too hard on the teachers, their pensions board also owns Bristol Airport and has stakes in Birmingham, Brussels and Copenhagen airports too so they probably know something about aviation.
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Old 18th May 2016, 16:16
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Originally Posted by good egg
Not quite sure what you mean about speed...according to the RNAV Transition Charts arrivals to RW27 185 KIAS max limit is at 6DME, admittedly on RW09 it's closer to 20nm from touchdown (but then it always was).
Yes that may be, but I mean all that low level droning/vectoring way before this we now get, out over the wind turbines in the Lower Thames Estuary/Goodwin Sands area a good 20 minutes or more before touchdown.

Flight Deck recently announced such an approach as "APPARENTLY it's the best route", with just the faintest trace of sarcasm ...
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Old 18th May 2016, 16:46
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Yes that may be, but I mean all that low level droning/vectoring way before this we now get, out over the wind turbines in the Lower Thames Estuary/Goodwin Sands area a good 20 minutes or more before touchdown.

Flight Deck recently announced such an approach as "APPARENTLY it's the best route", with just the faintest trace of sarcasm ...
I may have been on that same flight. I flew Cityjet the other morning, it was clear from the Captains welcome onboard greetings as he proceeded to explain the new route entry into the Ldn zone, you could sense his sarcasism. It's ridiculous. I was stuck so had no option but use City, I've shifted to broadly using Gatwick or Stansted (as last resort) with fast track security passes. The chaos at STN security is mental.
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 13:12
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Came through again just now. There are apologies cycling round on the FIDS at the gates from the airport management about how they have been delayed in expanding the capacity of the terminal. Which may be busy now but I still breezed through security by hardly stopping.

However, part of the "improvements" has been the replacement of the FIDS screens themselves (I can't remember when this was done). Whoever thought that up ? The basic screen format is now two shades of grey, far less readable than the previous ones, plus they need to cycle round a lot more than the old ones, as soon as you have identified your flight it cycles round and you are waiting for it to come round again. So whoever fell for the salesman of these ?

Maybe the next "improvement" will be putting the old ones back.
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Old 20th Jul 2016, 12:19
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Those info screens are appalling. You can't read them unless you're two foot away.
Worse than any other airport I can think of.
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Old 20th Jul 2016, 12:57
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The panels they are using have a significant fall off in brightness as the angle of view from dead centre increases. The screen alongside Gate 1 is unreadable from the work "perches" by the window. That suggests they are of low quality. And as WHBM says you have to wait a while until the page with your flight on eventually cycles round. And unless i am staring continously at the panel I inevitably miss he page I want to read...
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Old 20th Jul 2016, 14:37
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Does the LCY to Billund route with Sun Air still run? It is still advertised on Sun Air's website but I cannot find a trace of it in either BA's booking engine or on FR 24.

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Old 20th Jul 2016, 14:38
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Originally Posted by ELondonPax
Those info screens are appalling. You can't read them unless you're two foot away.
Worse than any other airport I can think of.
glad I'm not the only one who finds them so bad. truly awful when I was through there recently
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Old 21st Jul 2016, 00:22
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When BA introduced LHR-BLL this summer, I suspected this would be quietly axed.
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Old 21st Jul 2016, 06:09
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo
When BA introduced LHR-BLL this summer, I suspected this would be quietly axed.
The route still operates. Flights are available in September. I suspect like a lot of Scandinavian routes, it takes a break over summer as most businesses take a holiday.
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Old 25th Jul 2016, 19:49
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If anyone works as cabin crew for BACF @ LCY I'd be grateful of a PM. Thanks!
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 09:37
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The Government has approved LCY's expansion plans.


London City Airport Granted £344m Expansion


This should enable much more growth.
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 10:25
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Slight change of topic from flightpaths and the expansion, but I'd be grateful for advice. I have been offered a ticket online with BA (using Avios) TXL-LCY-GLA with 90 mins "connection" at LCY. I believe that there is no actual flight connection at LCY and I would need to collect luggage and check in again. Is 90 mins okay for that at LCY these days and would the airline be responsible for any missed connections?
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 11:01
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Providing your flight isn't delayed it's more than enough time. The walk and effort involved in collecting your baggage and going back through is less than a connection at most other airports.


If BA are offering the flight then yes they would be responsible should the connection fail.
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 11:08
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I have repeatedly done connections at LCY with less than 1 hour scheduled connection time. Never had a problem. Only risk are extraordinarily long queues before security - I have never tried if the folks at the barrier let connecting passengers take the short cut.
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 11:23
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Thank you! Looks feasible then. I suppose their business model doesn't really require provision for many connecting passengers, hence their lack of a dedicated "transfer" facility.
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 11:42
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There are an increasing number of connections sold through LCY, for pax it's no real issue to walk past baggage claim, up the escalator, and through security again. A word with the queue marshal (the entrance to the security area has recently changed) can have you stepped past any long queue, although recently I've found I'm walking straight up to the scanner anyway (a new bottleneck and queues seems to be developing at bag drop/check in). Bear in mind that although UK-LCY-Europe can connect without recheck, Europe-originating pax require a security check.

I always despair to find, looking around LCY somewhat lost, pax (invariably non-British) who have been sold ticketing of say AMS-LCY, then connecting across London to a LHR-LAX several hours later. You have to wonder what sort of corporate travel agent (because they are invariably business travellers) sets this up.
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 12:01
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Originally Posted by BA318
The Government has approved LCY's expansion plans.
Very good . I hope LCY have the contractors lined up to start tomorrow.

Speaking of contractors, what is all the plant that has been assembled around the west end of the runway in recent days ? The contractor is Lagan, who are specialists in runway resurfacing. Is the main runway getting redone ?
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 12:10
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WHBM, very often I see on the search engines (Kayak, Skyscanner, Momondo) plus on airline websites themselves (BA in particular) connections from Scotland or Europe into one London airport but leaving from another. I remember you used to be able to through check your bags if you were transferring LHR-LGW, but it still wasn't very convenient. I have set up my own "connections" changing airports in London in the past, but being from the UK at least I expect it and am familiar enough with London.

Reminds me when I used to see many passengers missing their flights at PIK, having gotten in a taxi in Glasgow city centre and told the driver "Airport please", and been taken to GLA.
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Old 27th Jul 2016, 12:18
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Speaking of contractors, what is all the plant that has been assembled around the west end of the runway in recent days ? The contractor is Lagan, who are specialists in runway resurfacing. Is the main runway getting redone ?
Probably poor form to reply to my own note, but I've just had a look at the Lagan website and it seems a full runway/taxiway resurfacing is indeed in prospect. If they are assembling their own asphalt batching plant and bringing materials in by the shipload it's going to be quite a project.

Lagan Construction International lands London City Airport contract - Lagan Construction Group


Plenty of activity during the Saturday/Sunday shutdown for the next few months then.
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