LONDON CITY - 2

[WHBM]

London City applied to the planning committee of Newham Council a few months ago to increase the movement limit from 80,000 to 120,000 per year. The closing date for representations about this has now passed and the council will presumably decide in the next couple of months, so plenty of time to get things sorted out before the 2008 season.

LCY will have made the point that this will facilitate traffic to the Olympics. Newham love anything that boosts the Olympics so there we go .......

[flyer55]

Good news about Ba's new routes for lcy but why Nice from LCY and drop LGW service on same day !

[WHBM]

Originally Posted by flyer55

why Nice from LCY and drop LGW service on same day !

1. Trounced by Easyjet from Gatwick.
2. No chance of Easyjet at LCY.

[GoEDI]

By the way, where do they keep the spare aircraft if they are not undergoing maintenance?

Parked at EDI.

[spanishflea]

1. Trounced by Easyjet from Gatwick.
2. No chance of Easyjet at LCY.

3. An olive branch to the corporate travel managers who they have annoyed by getting rid of the LGW route (same goes for the move of WAW from LHR to LGW and its instatement as an LCY route as well)

[towser]

No aircraft going back from Cityflyer so they will have 12 airframes once the 2 85's arrive.

[Skipness One Echo]

Hmmm. Fairly sure that G-BXAR and G-BXAS are going back soon. G-BXAR was returned and repainted all white but there was a delay in the delivery of the RJ85s and it was pressed back into service.

*CORRECTION*
Reading below I hope I am wrong. Great news for my local airport. Shame it's in Newham lol

I believe the pilots are based in EDI but they have cabin crew at LCY.

[wamwig]

Think you were right Towser this was on the BAe 146 Yahoo Group
The below extract has been taken from a BA press release.
"The airline is increasing its regional jet fleet to 12 aircraft to
operate the extra routes. Last month BA CityFlyer announced it had
signed leases for two new Avro RJ85 aircraft, and will now retain the
two RJ100s they were originally scheduled to replace"

[EI-BUD]

BA Cityflyer

Can anyone tell me, do BA Cityflyer have a base at LCY? I realise that they operate ARJs but are the crew based there or away at other airports?

EI-BUD

[virginblue]

Quote from the IOM-thread - posted by IOMSpotter:

Rumour here today is that Euromanx have offered to sell the LCY slot pairs to BACF (or anyone) from March. Maybe as theyre trying to sell the planes they might as well cash in the slots as theres nothing left to operate them. Is that what Martin Naylor is up to ? He 's been skulking around a lot . Last man out.....

I should consider becoming a clairvoyant

[flyer55]

Nice to see them retiring AR & AS , i remember flying on them at CFE @ LGW!

[Jaq]

Cityflyer's new routes are Warsaw, Nice, Barcelona and Amsterdam. Maybe dropping Malpensa. Keeping Both RJ100s so a total of 12 aircraft.
Not nearly enough pilots, so here comes a quick recruitment campaign.

Flyer's getting Big BAs destinations out of London and not a whimper from the Mainline guys. Perhaps they're working so hard they ain't noticed yet.
Long live Willy.

[WHBM]

The entire BA 146/RJ fleet is ex-CityFlyer at Gatwick. They were delivered between 1997 and 2001, then were transferred on to Birmingham and Manchester, and have come on to LCY from there. 10 years is not at all old for the oldest in a fleet - BA have even got 777s that are older than that.

[rouelan]

Summarizing your contributions and others on various forums, I must say in the end, I dont have a clue of what CJ are doing :
1. launch of LCY operations, including MAD
2. Jayzus, we didnt think about it, RJ100 cant make it to MAD, lets have a look on RJ85. Mesaba are releasing some of them
3. Jayzus, we didnt think about it, very complicated to retrofit them, forget about it, talk with Blue1, take back AR and AS and we will then have 12 a/c in fleet
4. what could we do with them ? DUS ? but no slots. Why not AMS - good business - and also these guys complaining with WAW transferred to LGW and NCE gone with GB : LCY-WAW and LCY-NCE

What next :
Hem, we didnt think about it, WAW a bit far too far for full pay load
And Ams so much competition we have to drop it

[DutchBird-757]

Intresting. Now, I just read a report claiming Cityjet requested slots for LCY-AMS as well. Can anyone confirm this???? That would be the 4th carrier on this route, talk about a air bridge!

Here's what I found so far:
CityJet
D AMS CJ8450 31MAR 24OCT 1234500 110 AR1 0530 LCY LCY
A AMS CJ8451 31MAR 24OCT 1234500 088 AR8 LCY LCY 0910
D AMS CJ8452 31MAR 24OCT 1234500 088 AR8 1005 LCY LCY
A AMS CJ8453 31MAR 24OCT 1234500 110 AR1 LCY LCY 1315
D AMS CJ8454 31MAR 24OCT 1234500 110 AR1 1415 LCY LCY
A AMS CJ8455 31MAR 24OCT 1234500 110 AR1 LCY LCY 1540
D AMS CJ8456 30MAR 04APR 1234507 110 AR1 1610 LCY LCY
D AMS CJ8456 07APR 24OCT 1234500 110 AR1 1610 LCY LCY
D AMS CJ8456 06APR 19OCT 0000007 110 AR1 1610 LCY LCY
A AMS CJ8457 24OCT 24OCT 0000500 110 AR1 LCY LCY 1905
A AMS CJ8457 30MAR 23OCT 1234007 110 AR1 LCY LCY 1905
A AMS CJ8457 04APR 17OCT 0000500 110 AR1 LCY LCY 1905

Hmmmm.... anyone with more info on this?
Thanks

[virginblue]

Cityjet has also applied for slots at FRA, Cityflyer at DUS. Applying for slots is one thing, obtaining them another thing, and actually operating the flights, well, a third.

[DutchBird-757]

I know, seems now the Cityjet flights were listed as CJ, and BA flightnumbers under the cityjet name. So no Cityjet to AMS. If anyone knows otherwise please let me know.

In reply to previous questions. BACF from LCY will drop Milan and raise ZRH from 4 to 5 daily incl a nightstop. Furthermore;

LCY - AMS, from 6th may 2008 4x daily (+ KLM 6x daily and VLM 12x daily)
LCY - WAW, from 6th may 2008 daily
LCY - BCN, from 6th may 2008 daily
LCY - NCE, from 6th march daily

[BAladdy]

In answer to you question EI-BUD


Cityflyer have a large Cabin Crew base at EDI and a smaller one at LCY. Not sure but all flight crew used be based at EDI

[marlowe]

Cabin crew based at EDI and LCY, flightdeck based in EDI only

[Skipness One Echo]

When did Air One stop the Rome service? Was going to book and it seems to have ceased. Poor loads?