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Old 14th Oct 2007, 16:47
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Yes

It's very short!
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Old 14th Oct 2007, 17:04
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Redbull Runway

Do they still have the red bull runway on the other side?
May be they should start to use that and boat the pax over!!
Have then rebulit the Swiss a/c over there yet?
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The redbull airstrip is tiny maybe only a few hundred metres in length. The Swiss RJ is hiding inside the temporary hangar being repaired whilst the Cityjet RJ is over by the jet centre. When did the BA jet burst a tyre??
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Just for the record, but with the addition of flights to VIE, TXL and SXB, LCY has now reached its legal peak capacity of 80.000 annual movements. So no further expansion possible until the airport's licence is amended.


EDIT: Sorry, just saw that it had already been reported

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So no further expansion possible until the airport's licence is amended.
have they applied for it to be ammended?

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Old 18th Oct 2007, 22:26
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have they applied for it to be amended?
Yes. 2 months ago.

http://www.lcacc.org/future/index.htm#interim
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London City Airport has announced the launch of a shuttle service to help passengers get to hotels in the Docklands area from the hub, with fares starting from £1.

Launching on Monday (October 8), the service will run every 30 minutes between 06:00 - 22:00 Monday - Friday, 06:00 - 13:00 on Saturday and 12:30 - 22:00 on Sunday.

The hotels participating in the service include those run by Travelodge, Etap, Travel Inn, Ramada, Sunborn Yacht, Ibis, Novotel, Crown Plaza, Holiday Inn Express, Travel Inn Canary Wharf, Four Seasons, Marriott West India Quay, Radisson Edwardian and Hilton.

A spokesman for the airport said: 'With the vast network of hotels located in the Docklands and an ever-increasing demand from business travellers, London City Airport's shuttle service complements the fast and convenient Docklands Light Railway service that transfers passengers to Canary Wharf in only 15 minutes.'
Wonder if there will be much uptake for the travelodge, it is just down the road....

In other news, Budapest has been added to the list of surveyed future destinations. As a matter of fact, MALEV is one of the few Fokker 70 operators.
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Old 18th Oct 2007, 23:37
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The typical LCY passenger from the finance world is not going to hang around for 30 minutes for a bus instead of taking a taxi to their hotel.

Actually for business visitors to Canary Wharf I recommend they stay in one of the mainstream hotels around Piccadilly in the West End, and go to/fro on the Jubilee Line from Green Park. It doesn't take notably longer than a cab from the nearer hotels to the office, and the difference in what you can do in the evening is of course stupendous.
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Hotels

Canary Wharf isnt bad for night life. The Marriot and the 4-seasons there are pretty good.
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The typical LCY passenger from the finance world is not going to hang around for 30 minutes for a bus instead of taking a taxi to their hotel.
Well, yes, but if somebody arrives at LCY and their travel dept. have booked them into either of
Travelodge, Etap, Travel Inn, Ibis, Holiday Inn Express, Travel Inn Canary Wharf
than they are going to be a bit tight on cab fares as well, are they not? Same goes for contactors - a quid saved is a quid earned.
Canary Wharf isnt bad for night life. The Marriot and the 4-seasons there are pretty good.
You must be joking. They're excellent places to stay, I give you that, and there is a multiplex next to the Marriott, but otherwise Canary Wharf / Dockland is a glorified business park with an (admittedly rather acceptable) mall attached to it. The West End on the other hand is full of pubs, restaurants, theatres, people (!!), and beats Docklands hands down for night life.
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With SAS announcing they are going to dispose of their Q400s following the well-publicised incidents, wonder what impact this will have on LCY.

The SAS flight to Copenhagen will presumably stick long-term with the leased 146 they have been using temporarily.

More particularly those carriers who thought moving on to the Q400 is the way to go are probably rethinking their options. Luxair have just done so. Austrian, starting this weekend with F70s, were probably thinking of doing so as well if the new service works out, the F70s being a bit long in the tooth now. What else is available for them ?
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I wouldn't be so quick to rule the Q400 out of the game! SAS getting rid of theirs, along with the landing gear problems, might well mean a few examples becoming available at competitive prices; and as long as the certification remains intact, then I think that they'll be in and out of LCY for a while to come.

As far as alternatives, well there's the E-135 (admittedly a bit pricey, as Luxair have been finding out), 146s and RJs, new ATRs, and probably others.

I'm looking forward to the F70s coming in, it should be good sport to watch!

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Q400's

Luxiars Q400 is brand spankign new so should be ok? Perhaps a good time to be an Embraer sales person - 170 and later the 190?
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But despite the trials a while ago (in fact quite a while ago) neither the E170 or the E190 (or, come to that, the A318) seem to have made any further progress in being authorised into London City. It seems the new stands will open next year for just the old stalwarts.
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Fokker 70 @ LCY today

Hello all,

First post - so please be gentle...

Witness the return of the F70 to LCY today. I was intrigued, given the naysayers on here, to see how it performed from a layman's perspective.

It seemed to execute a pretty flawless landing, and 10 mins early too. Only idle reverse thrust appeared to be used. The F70 looked great with the pale blue belly and did not appear to use any more of the runway than the 146s.

I was surprised to see how big it looked next to the 146s. It looked at least as big even though it typically seats 20 less pax.

Come T/O time, it rotated at around the same point as the 146 that preceded it and seemed to be equally quiet, which was quite impressive since Vienna is one of the furthest destinations served from LCY. The AOA and climb rate seemed much higher than the 146 and was probably up there with the bizjets.

All in all, quite impressive. I may well have to take a test ride...

On the subject of the A318 steep approach certification, it does have this but I hear that until the new stands are open then there is not the room to park it.

http://www.eads.net/1024/en/pressdb/pressdb/lebourget/20070620_airbus_a318_steep_approach.html

Any views?
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Old 29th Oct 2007, 22:18
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It seems the new stands will open next year for just the old stalwarts.
That would be a fine thing! As it is, LCY operates over-capacity, in terms of both aircraft movements and passenger facilities. Admittedly, part of the capacity problem is lack of stands, but only part of the problem.

I just hope that the airport operator doesn't try to sell the airport over-capacity again as soon as the work is complete.

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Old 30th Oct 2007, 09:53
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I assume (as the link doesn't work) that EADS say they have authority for the A318, but the London City definitive page on their own website about types which are certified certainly doesn't.

I am probably one of the few who remembers the Air France F70 operating to Paris in the 1990s. This was indeed a noisy little thing, they did use reverse thrust, and when they spooled up against the brakes on a Runway 10 departure you could hear it right up by the A13. Honestly, because I did so. Of course in those days there were far fewer movements and nobody really noticed. Looks like Austrian have done a bit of work on how to be quieter. Have they been practicing over at Gloucester ?
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Old 31st Oct 2007, 16:11
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From the Luxair website:

Saarbrucken – Luxembourg – London-City

Starting September 2008, Luxair will connect Saarbrucken with the business airport of London-City. Services to London-City will be operated from Monday to Friday in the morning and evening as well as on Sunday evenings. These flights will depart Saarbrucken via Luxembourg.
Nothing terribly exiting as it is only an extension of the LUX route, but nevertheless

Maybe a move to fill the much larger Q400 in the light of heavy competition by VLM on the LUX.


Also in the City Star thread continuing rumours about an announcement of ABZ-LCY.
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Old 2nd Nov 2007, 14:08
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Slot filings at German airports for summer 08 have now been released.

Cityflyer have applied for slots for LCY-DUS.

Both Cityjet and Air France have now applid for LCY-FRA, obviously in a move to improve chances to get slots allocated at FRA.
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Old 3rd Nov 2007, 16:42
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Question

I thought CityJet was Air France
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