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Why do they need a price war?
They currently hold 67.5% of the passengers travelling between the Island and Belfast, which is up from 59% in January, showing that they have had the major holding over EMX for some time! The increase is mainly due to the new 'Shuttle service' which was launched late last year, and was put into action on Valentines day this year. They now operate 5 daily return flights flights between IOM and the two Northern Irish airports (BFS and BHD), compared to EMX's one (MON/FRI is two).
No wonder EMX is concentrating on their MAN route!
With Manx2 probably gaining all control of the Belfast route before long and looking at a eight flights per day on the LPL route, where does EMX look now?
Seems to be that they will leave Manx2 to it, and take on BE on the MAN route! They will need to bolster their mainland English routes if they want any chance of getting through this tough patch.
Shame really. They were once and international airline, flying to Ireland, Spain, France etc. And now they are being overhauled by a 19-seater airline on one of their routes.
Good luck to EMX!
They currently hold 67.5% of the passengers travelling between the Island and Belfast, which is up from 59% in January, showing that they have had the major holding over EMX for some time! The increase is mainly due to the new 'Shuttle service' which was launched late last year, and was put into action on Valentines day this year. They now operate 5 daily return flights flights between IOM and the two Northern Irish airports (BFS and BHD), compared to EMX's one (MON/FRI is two).
No wonder EMX is concentrating on their MAN route!
With Manx2 probably gaining all control of the Belfast route before long and looking at a eight flights per day on the LPL route, where does EMX look now?
Seems to be that they will leave Manx2 to it, and take on BE on the MAN route! They will need to bolster their mainland English routes if they want any chance of getting through this tough patch.
Shame really. They were once and international airline, flying to Ireland, Spain, France etc. And now they are being overhauled by a 19-seater airline on one of their routes.
Good luck to EMX!
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Got that one rite
Hansol youre rite about the nead for a licensing system on IOM to insure there's someone left to tern the lights out. 
Seams Manx2 are undercuttin all BHD fares by £2 till EuroMonkeys pulloff. Still think it would be sensibul for them to give BHD to M2 and consentrate on MAN, LCY and LPL. Consolidate there strengths ;run 2 monopoly routes and really have a big push on MAN while FlyMaybe are all over the show with there reorganizatiun. IOM needs stronger players and big aircraft on big routes, small 19 seaters on small routes
Seams Manx2 are undercuttin all BHD fares by £2 till EuroMonkeys pulloff. Still think it would be sensibul for them to give BHD to M2 and consentrate on MAN, LCY and LPL. Consolidate there strengths ;run 2 monopoly routes and really have a big push on MAN while FlyMaybe are all over the show with there reorganizatiun. IOM needs stronger players and big aircraft on big routes, small 19 seaters on small routes
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wait & see
This battle will be fought over MAN. Euros will go 4x dayly every day after TT and by Autumn Flybe will upgrade their kit and add back the rotatiun.
It's the calm be4 the storm old chap!
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FlyMaybe Killer plan
Yep, seems FlyMaybees plan is to add back 5th MAN rotatiun PDQ and also to add a 0900 BHX in the autumn to compliment there new 1700 BHX time plus 3 a day to LPL
. Shuld set the cat amung the whatsits
. Shuld set the cat amung the whatsits
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Wow, never realised there were so many highly hilarious ( ) nicknames....Ryanscare, Euromonkeys (presuming Euromanx) and just to add one to the pot so that I feel I fit in god old (back in the day) Dandareways.
Anyway how and where is the information on Flybe plans coming from as this is news to the employees.
) nicknames....Ryanscare, Euromonkeys (presuming Euromanx) and just to add one to the pot so that I feel I fit in god old (back in the day) Dandareways.Anyway how and where is the information on Flybe plans coming from as this is news to the employees.
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Well you still have to pay for bags and excess with FlyBe, also exit seats.
Euromanx dont charge (yet) for any of these, so there are differences between the 2.
Just depends what you want from the Airline at the end of the day, O and how much the ticket costs.
Euromanx dont charge (yet) for any of these, so there are differences between the 2.
Just depends what you want from the Airline at the end of the day, O and how much the ticket costs.
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Don't Euromanx operate the Dash8-200/300?? both in my experience somewhat uncomfortable. I would rather pay a little extra as the Q400 is alot more comfy but like you say TechProblem, it depends on what you want from an airline.
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Kit
I remember when FlyMayBe werent so posh and were flying Bandits then Sheds out of Blk. Now they are all posh and Euros fly the ageing rubish.
What gos around cums around.
Still think EuroManx will feal a pinser movement from FlyMayBe and there new frends and shareholders at BA
who are still looking at LCY IOM with 146s. This will give them competitiun from BA on LCY, FlyMayBe on MAN and LPL and Manx2 on BHD The jets and the Q400s will win.
What gos around cums around. Still think EuroManx will feal a pinser movement from FlyMayBe and there new frends and shareholders at BA
who are still looking at LCY IOM with 146s. This will give them competitiun from BA on LCY, FlyMayBe on MAN and LPL and Manx2 on BHD The jets and the Q400s will win.
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Flybeeee, the Q200/300's are no less comfortable than the Q400. All the Bombardier aircraft are good for the job they do. I wouldn't want to fly on any of them for more than an hour or so.
Anyway, I'll do a first hand comparison next week when I fly from IOM-MAN on a Q300 then MAN-EXE on a Q400.
skiddy
Anyway, I'll do a first hand comparison next week when I fly from IOM-MAN on a Q300 then MAN-EXE on a Q400.
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Talking about prices it seems Manx2 have come in with a £26 fare for Belfast City!
Is this the start of a fares war?
Cheerz
As Manx 2 aircraft are less than 19 seats the fares are exempt the £10 each way Airport Passenger Duty which should make their fares very competative compared to other IOM operators..............
Is this the start of a fares war?
Cheerz
As Manx 2 aircraft are less than 19 seats the fares are exempt the £10 each way Airport Passenger Duty which should make their fares very competative compared to other IOM operators..............
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pilots love in
any of U Euro jocks at Mr Seymores love in this week
It seams hes' worried about pilot morale and had to adress the troops to deny lots of rumurs . Parenly MAN is going 4x daily all weekdays not just T,W,Th, he wants to keep BDH and aiming to kill 
anyone who comes onto LCY or LPL Any comment from those present. Seems pprune has been better informed recentley than what hes been telling his boys & girls
. they were all waiting for the big announcement.....and waiting......and waiting.......and waiting....and still b
dy waiting.......
It seams hes' worried about pilot morale and had to adress the troops to deny lots of rumurs . Parenly MAN is going 4x daily all weekdays not just T,W,Th, he wants to keep BDH and aiming to kill anyone who comes onto LCY or LPL Any comment from those present. Seems pprune has been better informed recentley than what hes been telling his boys & girls . they were all waiting for the big announcement.....and waiting......and waiting.......and waiting....and still bdy waiting.......
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More LCY
Seams the new owners of LCY are increasing landing charges by 35% and widening the peak period. Operators are all in revolt but nothing they can do
BA Cityflyer happy as it could chuck open some good slots and good routes.
BA Cityflyer happy as it could chuck open some good slots and good routes.
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EMX 81L said earlier today in a now deleted post:
Alarmist tosh!!! .
Firstly, it won't be in the drink, because if it's not in trim, a load sheet can't be generated and you don't go.
Secondly, the 145 can take a full load of pax to Madrid from Manchester with 4 tonnes of fuel - so carrying an extra 200kg of Ballast to trim the thing when the hold would otherwise be empty on a short business route where you only need 1.8 tonnes of fuel ain't gonna be a problem.
I'm not surprised you want them to go soonest - like someone said earlier - they're gonna prove very popular.
I'll wave as I overtake the EMs at over 400 knots, quietly, smoothly....
However, as i know a fair bit about loadsheets, the 145 is a god awful aircraft to trim. if u have a full load, u have to hope they have alot of bags, otherwise the 145 will be in the drink.
.Firstly, it won't be in the drink, because if it's not in trim, a load sheet can't be generated and you don't go.
Secondly, the 145 can take a full load of pax to Madrid from Manchester with 4 tonnes of fuel - so carrying an extra 200kg of Ballast to trim the thing when the hold would otherwise be empty on a short business route where you only need 1.8 tonnes of fuel ain't gonna be a problem.
I'm not surprised you want them to go soonest - like someone said earlier - they're gonna prove very popular.
I'll wave as I overtake the EMs at over 400 knots, quietly, smoothly....
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