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The only reason the FlyBe's are delyed is because they have taken over bacon, bacon crews are doing the flights on the EMB 145's and these crew's dont care if it goes on time atm.
If the flights were oped by the Q400 or the EMB 195 they would be on time.
Euromanx on the other hand have a very good rep of being on time anyway.
If the flights were oped by the Q400 or the EMB 195 they would be on time.
Euromanx on the other hand have a very good rep of being on time anyway.
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Don't accept that.
146 is operated by same crews who flew for BAConnect,all v.professional and dedicated to S.O.S,safety-ontime-service!!
Same goes for ERJ145 now operated by some former Manx Airlines ex-IOM flight crews.
Euromanx/Flight Support need another excuse!!!
146 is operated by same crews who flew for BAConnect,all v.professional and dedicated to S.O.S,safety-ontime-service!!
Same goes for ERJ145 now operated by some former Manx Airlines ex-IOM flight crews.
Euromanx/Flight Support need another excuse!!!
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Just to let you know as a matter of interest the MAN EMB145 went 5 minutes early last night and all throughout just day 3 of a new operation there were very few delays. The only reason these flights have not been going on time over the last few days has nothing to do with Pilots,,FS or MR not wanting the flights to run on time its purely and simply that even proffessional check in agents, crews, load controllers and dispatchers need a chance to adapt to new procedures give the staff a break. There is nothing anyone can do about Tech or ATC slot delays these are things that cannot be blamed on the people above so as said before just give the staff the time to adapt. Pilots and Crews are proffessional people who do not play political games they leave that to the management
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meaning just that, its an insult to suggest that any proffessional person would purposely delay a flight. Whether these pilots were once BACON or Manx Airlines is of no matter these companies no longer exist and they now work for Flybe and their objectives are the same as before - on time arrival and departure times.
That was the meaning behind my comment nothing more nothing less
That was the meaning behind my comment nothing more nothing less
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Indeed the ex Bacon guys and gals are total professionals as are the ground staff in the IOM.....
It was the rmk that Management play political games......can't get my head around that one as one would have thought Management both MR & FS would be striving to make the change over run smooth till FS take over in whenever.
It was the rmk that Management play political games......can't get my head around that one as one would have thought Management both MR & FS would be striving to make the change over run smooth till FS take over in whenever.
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Treaclecat, I totally agree with you, there is no way that anyone involved would delay a flight on purpose. Every delay that has occured has been due to a range of problems and TZ going tech was just unfortunate timing.
SnappyBits and granddaddy, Its highly unlikely that FS would try to delay FlyBe. Remember they own Manchester Handling and FlyBe is there principle contract and there passport to bigger and better things. They will want to do everytjing they can to please BE as I believe the contract is up for renewal in 18 months in IOM, although I may be wrong. EuroManx operating on time isn't a suprise, for them this week is exactly the same as last. For BACON / FlyBe everything has changed. A new handling agent has entered the picture, schedule changes on both routes, diffrent aircraft types and perhaps most importantly shorter turn around times on the LGW service. Things are getting better(ish).
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SnappyBits and granddaddy, Its highly unlikely that FS would try to delay FlyBe. Remember they own Manchester Handling and FlyBe is there principle contract and there passport to bigger and better things. They will want to do everytjing they can to please BE as I believe the contract is up for renewal in 18 months in IOM, although I may be wrong. EuroManx operating on time isn't a suprise, for them this week is exactly the same as last. For BACON / FlyBe everything has changed. A new handling agent has entered the picture, schedule changes on both routes, diffrent aircraft types and perhaps most importantly shorter turn around times on the LGW service. Things are getting better(ish).
Keep it going
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Well there was a post on here about a week ago saying that BHD was to be discontinued. I sent a PM to the poster and the reply was intresting. The post was deleted though... There was a lot of other rumours in there so I wouldn't read too much into it. Although I could be wrong....
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Snappybits, it was just the post to treaclecat about meaning?? I hadn't read your later post. We know Flight Support wouldn't delay them on purpose but I still have reservations as to the ability of the management at both companies, to make this a smooth transition.
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Don't accept that.
146 is operated by same crews who flew for BAConnect,all v.professional and dedicated to S.O.S,safety-ontime-service!!
146 is operated by same crews who flew for BAConnect,all v.professional and dedicated to S.O.S,safety-ontime-service!!
Although this will all sort itself out soon, the most of the delayed flights had been on the forumer BA a/c because either they wanted a brew, (btw FS staff having really been gettting one im told) Professional i think not... but getting away from the euromanx thread here.
The point I was really making is that Flybe will start to get more and more on time as the weeks pass by, its just a bilp, and once everything is ironed out Euromanx will have better competition.
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TechProblem, If you are meaning a IOM - EDI cancellation then that has nothing to do with FlyBe, Its operated by Loganair under their BA franchise. And as for cabin crew resigning on the a/c thats not suprising. I have heard how FlyBe have treated some members and I would have done the same. People can only be expected to accept so much. Things are improving for FlyBe though, Todays flights look on time
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As this is supposed to be a EMX thread and not another thread relating to FS MR BA or FLybe I would like to put it back on track and say isnt it perhaps time that EMX took hold of the reigns and lived up to their claims of being the IOM airline, Come on EMX you know you can do it, theres a brilliant engineering hangar going up for grabs with technically skilled staff about to pack their bags and leave the airport, their are 2 handling agents in FS and MR that are haggling for business you are with one at the moment but not everything is written in stone, try the other one at least then your flights would be prioritised over the new FlyBe who from what I see is all FS are interested in at the moment. The office space that will become available at the airport would put you closer to the business and at long last we could once again have an airline that is showing real interest in the needs of the people of the ISland
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If FS are treating both airlines equally, why was there only 1 check-in desk open this morning to cover both the Flybe MAN and LGW flights? First day of the Easter hols, busy flights......both the Flybe flights were delayed, the LGW by about 40mins!
If there is a 'common link' between FS and Euromanx, surely they are going to give priority to Euromanx.
If there is a 'common link' between FS and Euromanx, surely they are going to give priority to Euromanx.
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Possible answer to question of only one desk open for LGW and Man is simply a staffing issue.
I have heard from people on the IOM that FS are finding it difficult to employ people because their pay scales are so low.
Hope they get their staffing sorted before the big TT festival or there could be delays at check in and I am sure that would not go down very well with the FlyBe management after all FS have made the promise that they can handle these flights lets hope they were not false promises made by a management that gave such a low tender to get the contract that they cant fulfill there promise because of lack of staff!!
I have heard from people on the IOM that FS are finding it difficult to employ people because their pay scales are so low.
Hope they get their staffing sorted before the big TT festival or there could be delays at check in and I am sure that would not go down very well with the FlyBe management after all FS have made the promise that they can handle these flights lets hope they were not false promises made by a management that gave such a low tender to get the contract that they cant fulfill there promise because of lack of staff!!
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Please ENSURE that your post relates to the topic ONLY.
There is far too much inrrelevant info on this thread that should be in the IOM Airport thread for example.
Deletions have taken place and more will follow if they do not fit. It becomes very boring to read the same info twice, or even three times.
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There is far too much inrrelevant info on this thread that should be in the IOM Airport thread for example.
Deletions have taken place and more will follow if they do not fit. It becomes very boring to read the same info twice, or even three times.
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EMX have certainly moved on from those early days and long may that continue, it would be nice for the Island to have their own airline once again not that anyone can see that happening but I am sure if it did EMX would be a good advert for the Island as they had their teething problems way back when but certainly have improved their image even though their fares are not as competitive as they used to be - prices to get off this Island are unreal!!