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Old 22nd Nov 2007, 20:32
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dropping BHD too.

Also some SAT rotations in JAN have been pulled on BHD.
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Old 22nd Nov 2007, 21:02
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BHD & LPL........definite cut backs........they cant all be full !!!
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Old 23rd Nov 2007, 13:45
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LCY

Which would explain post of BA City Flyer looking at IOM-LCY? . As the only jet service to London itd do well and give good connections to european financial centres avoiding the dredead LGW
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I reckon the real story is that the new management is trying to get the cash back from when the previous lot bought the hulls. If the sale goes through, I reckon the Dashs will still be there, only leased instead of owned.

As for Cityflyer....the size of the market for LCY is just too small. Treading on FlyBE's toes is a non starter as the History between and links of the two companys preclude that kind of competition.

My money's on the minimum of change next year.....but who know's in aviation!
 
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LCY is currently 'full' besides why would BA want to return to the island??
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Not when EMX become extinct!
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LCY

theres 4 LCY rotations a day-3 Euromanx and 1 VLM. Morning and evening with a 146 would kill these and the sort of pax on this rout would pay lots more to fly BA and get there airmiles back
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There would also be a limited number of connections available through LCY on BACF to such places as MAD, MIL, FRA and ZRH.
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Old 25th Nov 2007, 16:14
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BA CityFlyer Would have a better use for the slots than IOM if any do become availble. Why though is there a general consensus that EuroManx is in so much trouble?? you would be suprised!
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Flew LCY-IOM week before last. JS was on the plane. Pre boarding he spent ages on his mobile apparantly trying to sort out why we had a lousy stand allocation (= bus) and other matters. Not the actions of a captain on a sinking ship, methinks.

Sale/leaseback is a sensible business strategy. I wish them many more years as a carrier to/from the island.
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sounds about right for JS wingeing about stand allocation - that man's got a persecution complex.
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Old 26th Nov 2007, 07:12
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answer

Why though is there a general consensus that EuroManx is in so much trouble??

How about

1 Sales and marketing director quits and not replaced
2 both planes put up for sale
3 reservations "outsourced"
4 price war with FlyBe on Moanchester
5 half empty planes on Belfast
6 20% drop on Liverpool
7 Lost market share to VLM on City

Apart from that theres no reason at all

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Old 26th Nov 2007, 22:09
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Having just traveled with them to Man over this weekend, they must be doing something right. Plane was pretty well full in both directions and on time.The only thing that let them down was the crap baggage service in the IOM

Now as someone who has avoided flying with them since all the WS induced nonsense with all the attendant "rescheduling" and unreliability, it took a lot to change to them. I changed to them because of the continuing unreliability of their competitor to Man, and before ADC2604 flames me, the equivalent Flybe flights were badly delayed.

Let us hope the rumours are not true and they will have the capital and the time to build a solid future
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Old 26th Nov 2007, 22:20
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manx crab, you refer to crap baggage service in IOM?? what do you mean??
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 09:10
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Euromanx getting competition on the LPL route.

Flybe just announced 3 daily from 30 March 2008. Fares from £19.99 inc tax.

Interesting times ahead.
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 09:13
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Plus LTN going double daily which will have some impact on their LCY service. Add to that the new 15 GBP fares by Manx2 on BHD and BLK and all in all not a nice week for Euromanx....
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 11:20
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Planes for sale

No wonder theyve put the planes for sale. Must have been told this was coming Aer Arran could be getting there ATR back in March
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 14:40
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8 -10

To finish my points to FS01

8 160,000 Extra seats onto LPL
9 50,000 Extra seats to North London
10 Goodnight
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 14:43
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Mirdif, I'm sure the bank will throw him a life raft but only until they get the money back then they'll give him some concrete boots
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 15:49
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Gone Tech.

I see all the MAN IOM rotations today have been cancelled as aircraft tech. Any one know the cause?
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