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Old 31st Oct 2007, 19:16
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Why would anyone think there was demand to Amsterdam
1) A realistic alternative to treking round the M25 to endure the horror that is LHR for those of us connecting to flights far and wide

2) And as that Darling man in No11 has decided that days of arrival and departure in the UK will count towards the 90 days average used to decide whether one is UK resident for tax purposes, avoiding LHR or indeed any UK airport will become more important next year. (I've been looking at DUB, but most connections don't work).
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Old 31st Oct 2007, 19:48
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manx Examiner

Todays examiner is worth reading. CEO says about putting your whole fleet up 4 sale 'It's normal business practice for an airline,' he said.

Last man out turn out the lights
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Old 31st Oct 2007, 20:14
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It is interesting to note that that there was none of the usual positive fantasy spin in JS's statement in the paper. Presumably it is the banks/accountants that are calling the shots now.

Surely they must have known this sort of news would eventually get out and would have an upbeat answer to give about what would replace the Dash's.

Maybe Aer Arann will operate all their services after April.
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Old 31st Oct 2007, 21:07
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I think the lights are already out..... who wants to tell JS?
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Looks like its on a slow run down to avoid any nastiness with the IOM Gov. I have a friend who works there and she says the Finance Director (a consultant who has been there for a year and a half) is also working notice.
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No doubt we will soon get the usual complaints about "open skies" policy causing all the problems from JS. It has a lot of truth in it, but he was quiet happy to take advantage of it to set up routes.

Perhaps the finance boys have seen that the successful model for the IOM is to run a "Ticket Agency" and charter in aircraft as necessary.
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Old 2nd Nov 2007, 06:58
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Building next

Manx Crab is on the nail. Rumour in the Railway is that Head Office building is going next as the sell off continues. Once "outsorced" staff have gone the plan is to move whats left back into a leesed office in the airport No building, no planes, no sales director, no ticket staff.... if they dont tell the staff soon whats happening theyll soon have no nothing as people wont put up with not being told what theyre future is.
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Old 4th Nov 2007, 09:02
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All these rumours been flying around, has anything happen yet?
EMX going to sell there planes, ticket desk, head office.
Ok when? As you all know 3w is a good little airline would be silly to through it away.
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Old 4th Nov 2007, 09:41
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TP - they're not rumours, they're events that have been announced by the Company itself.

http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/EuroM...ket.3413503.jp

http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Eurom...-up.3430365.jp

What people are wondering (quite rightly) is where it is all leading.

I don't understand how JS still involved with EM ??, I thought he'd relinquished his interests with the recent 'management buyout' ??.

I'm sure someone will be kind enough to explain.
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Old 4th Nov 2007, 10:35
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I'm fairly sure that Euromanx lease the aircraft; don't think they own them. It will be the lessor that is putting them up for sale - not Euromanx.
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Old 4th Nov 2007, 11:31
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EMX bought the two Dash 8s earlier this year for £15m. There was a press release in the local papers if i remember rightly
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Old 4th Nov 2007, 16:58
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EuroManx are going nowhere except LPL MAN and LCY ok given they won't be in BHD for much longer. Bad day for 3W on LPL today.. anyone know the reason for all the delays?? Then again Manxy 2's GLO went to BRS
 
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Very foggy in Liverpool until mid afternoon qite a number of flights canx or diverted
Manchester not looking to good tonight
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 08:49
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Dash 8's for sale

Guv'nor was apparentley offered the 2 Dash8's for sale by Swiss broker a week ago. Asking price seems to have halved from £15m to $15m.OOps.. 3 nice J41's is whats needed there. Forget the lowish cost model and fly a business service into LCY and MAN with higher fares and full service = full planes. 7x a day to LPL with full loads = loadsamoney.
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 09:11
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Jetstream 41 on MAN against Dash 8 400 you must be joking, if they did that it would be time to pack up and go home

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The Dornier 328 is what is needed, why they got rid of their original ones in the first place is a mystery to me!
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 11:51
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Yes I think your right on that probably just right size aircraft

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328's

and presumably their new owner who also owns club328 knows where to pick up (or lease more likely) three cheap ones. Seems the group also holds a lot of 328 spares. Would be a few expensive type ratings needed by crews unless they just go the ACMI route.
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 19:19
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I remember when Eastern operated MAN-NWI route before BE announced it. When the dreaded announcement came, Eastern was straight off of the route as they could not compete with the on price and comfort.

If EMZ were to take this route, then that would be what would happen. If the airline reduced there aircraft size, especially on the LCY route, fares will increase dramatically and will give VLM a bigger market share.

Not a good idea.

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Old 10th Nov 2007, 19:47
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Surely a cheaper option would be to simply replace the 300 series aircraft with another 200. Not as nice for the paying public but accountants do not look or care about that

Club 328 has been sold by the new owners to PlaneChartering Ltd so it is doubtful if they have access any more to 328's.

If EMX survive and continue independently then I think it will be what I have said before, the "Ticket Agency" route
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