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Old 9th Dec 2007, 18:50
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They only have Dash 8's at the moment. The question is what will they be operating after April'08 when they are sold!
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It sems EuroManx' website is telling me it's unsafe to give my credit card details online as the security is invalid.

Perhaps I shouldnt book with them until they are safe again .

Me thinks it could be some time!
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Old 10th Dec 2007, 11:25
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Not sure what exactly you mean by EMX website advising unsafe credit card security etc. I have been booking with them most weeks, the last within 7 days, and had no messages and (touch wood) no problem. Or are you saying that some Microsoft product on your PC is advising this?

You can always book over the phone and as far as I know there's no extra cost involved.
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A lot of sweat, blood and tears and money goes into setting up an airline, by the investors and more importantly by the management and staff. 3W no matter what you think of them have staff and family depending on an income to live. Yes, they are going through the mill, but without new airlines and new ventures the world will be stuck with a few carriers who will dictate fares. This is an aviation forum - supporting avaiton, depending on aviation - why is it that there are a few, always a few, who revel on airlines going through a tough time, and through apperances seem to wish upon their demise. I would suggest you should have a speed restriction - on your tongue - and think of the many employees and their families who have access to this thread/
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no speedrestriction9

Seems to work for me, the booking is outsourced anyway so not directly connected to EMX and the certificate looks like it is valid to 2010. Maybe it is something in your computer setup
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bit harsh

iwhak your comments are a bit harsh. Were all in aviation and there but for the grace of God gos me. BUT 3W management 9or lackof it cant be ignored. How much are they pouring down the drain on BHD every day flying empty planes? LPL will become a bloodbath MANs already gone that way. They should chop the 2 dashes and focus on one jet to LCY 3 times daily and MAN twice . Give LPL to Flybe and BHD to Flybe or Manxy2 Stop fighting wars they cant win and get a grip before its too late
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Old 13th Dec 2007, 12:43
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EMX would be better off sticking to prop's far more economical than any jet they would be able to afford. DH4 would be good, depending on lease costs. 146 / RJ's are huge fuel drinkers and ERJ170's etc are expensive to lease.
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Old 14th Dec 2007, 17:28
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right kit

I agree with Air LCY on november pax loads a small turboprop will do. What happened to 328 plans
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Old 14th Dec 2007, 20:25
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EMX Staff have received a copy press release today which states that LPL, MAN and BHD are all to be sold at £19 ow from 7th January. If you ask me this is either a last ditch attempt or War against the competition. My vote is with the 2nd option. Good on em I say. Who says they cant win? They've fought off strong competition before ......
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Old 15th Dec 2007, 12:10
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The press release is out at 0800 on Monday. It says that there are seats available on every flight every day. I heard that they are really going for this big time and that there is plenty of seats allocated to the rate....The whole aircraft for sale issue could just be a way cutting costs and finding something more suitable for their routes. If they were thinking about ending it in March why would they continue to sell seats?
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Old 15th Dec 2007, 14:03
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Going down.

Only one tiny problem here.

£19 fares

less £10 APD
less £5- £10 Airport tax
less £5 handling

= loss before any plane operatin or staff or crew costs

= goodbye

Any fcan give away seats . They need a route where they can hike fares not slash them
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Old 15th Dec 2007, 15:20
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Fares are available at £38 return with both EM and Flybe from next April on their respective websites already.

The deepest pockets are going to win this one.
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Old 15th Dec 2007, 15:32
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IMHO, Flybe seem to have turned things around at IOM - bearing in mind things didn't start off very well I think people are beginning to accept them on their island.

However Euromanx, despite their efforts are having great difficulty in building passenger confidence and I am not sure if low fares will necessarily be enough to turn things around and allow Euromanx to succeed. Clearly IOM residents would like to be proved wrong as EMX has been on the island for years and is part of the IOM furniture if you like.
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Old 15th Dec 2007, 16:11
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£9 fares

Im sure people will be asking why Euros are selling seats for £9 (after Gordons £10 tax take). Are they desperate for cash flow.

Flybe make quite a few quid on top with charges for bags, seat selection, insurance drinks on board etc. so they probley get another £10 on top when alls said and done.

Great for pax short term but will all end in tears
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Old 16th Dec 2007, 00:05
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Maybe EMX just want to make a statement. Since the MBO there have been a lot of "we're here to stay" talks. Perhaps the low fares are just another way of getting this point across whilst earning some brownie points from the manx public and putting the wind up FlyBe at the same time. No-one is saying that they are going blast Flybe out the sky but atleast they are putting up a fight and trying to hang onto the routes and laterally keep the staff in jobs.
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Old 16th Dec 2007, 11:32
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yes but

3W have no competition on LPL till April so why are ALL seats at £9 after APD from January . Its even on there peak commuter flight and FRI nights. This is a mad short term cash grab not a long term statement. Theyll fill out there best TT flights for next year at £9 a seat

mad.
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Old 16th Dec 2007, 15:37
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The reason they have cheap flights in Jan is that they need to build a passenger base which they can sustain throughout the summer.

IOMSpotter, you really don't get business do you? Do you think FR sells all it's seats for 1p? No. The airline's top rate will increase and there will be a higher inter-quartile range on most flights, with more money then coming in on the Fridays and Sundays. Its worked for FR (on a different scale!)

I would also think that they will be cutting back on the inflight catering?
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Old 16th Dec 2007, 21:35
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cheap seats

iomspotter has made one fair point. No airline sells Friday night seats getting off the rock to anywhere for £9 unless..
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Old 19th Dec 2007, 06:55
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post March

Not sure what happens post 31 March Mirdif but im told 29th March is last BHD flight.
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Old 23rd Dec 2007, 01:22
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If seats are being sold for £9 net, it won't be for cash flow, will it!!! Is that what they call an oxymoron?

It is obviously to get bums on seats, and have good advertising story. My guess is that there will only be 5 seats at £19 - the minimum 10% required. After that prices will increase.

It is a tried and tested method that often works.
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