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Originally Posted by possibleconsequences
It was Ryanair that insisted the airport upgrade to CAT 111 facilities in order for them to base their aircraft there. Also, the number one complaint of all passenger surveys over the past years was that the airport was just a portakabin and airlines have indicated they will not base aircraft there until it looks half decent!
I agree wholeheartedly that it would be nicer not to have to pay for a trolley, car park drop off etc but regional airports do not have the clout to insist that airlines like Ryanair pay enough landing / handling fees to allow the airport to make a profit without charging for ancillary services.
I agree wholeheartedly that it would be nicer not to have to pay for a trolley, car park drop off etc but regional airports do not have the clout to insist that airlines like Ryanair pay enough landing / handling fees to allow the airport to make a profit without charging for ancillary services.
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'That's just it though - they don't have the clout, so why play the game?'
Well that's a whole new discussion. The airport is in the capitalism 'must increase profits / grow etc' game as much as any other company, especially as it's part of MAG.
I don't have an answer to that!
Well that's a whole new discussion. The airport is in the capitalism 'must increase profits / grow etc' game as much as any other company, especially as it's part of MAG.
I don't have an answer to that!
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What a mess
I met the dalaman flight today cant believe the complaints
No airport staff for an enquiry
No trolleys
Old trolleys had 20p stuck in
Long delay for luggage
Same zigzag customs lines with no extra desks
No smart passport machine
No cashpoint machine
Bo bus it dropped of and went
Even the thomas cook staff commented on 2.50 drop off
All this heard in 40 mins of waiting inside the building
I met the dalaman flight today cant believe the complaints
No airport staff for an enquiry
No trolleys
Old trolleys had 20p stuck in
Long delay for luggage
Same zigzag customs lines with no extra desks
No smart passport machine
No cashpoint machine
Bo bus it dropped of and went
Even the thomas cook staff commented on 2.50 drop off
All this heard in 40 mins of waiting inside the building
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The problem is there is now a big and growing gap between tier one regional airports and the rest, MME, BOH, CWL, BLK all have airports near by that are bigger and as airport operating companies do deals based on volume of passenger ( because their rental deals to the shops are based on the same volumes) it becomes more and more difficult to attract new business, once over say 5 years ago someone would have already stepped into WW shoes at CWL look what happened to MME when WW pulled out, Globespam had a quick flirt before going under.
The cost of providing security, immigration ATC fire, fuel farm and all that goes with it is colossal and a few charter flights a day don't cut it an extension to stay open for fire cover for an hour will cost at least a couple of grand, do the math it just doesn't add up.
The likes of Exeter 7 NWI will probably keep going and CWL but if your a spotter you'll need a big flask and a lot of patience if you want to see anything other than the odd flybe dash
The cost of providing security, immigration ATC fire, fuel farm and all that goes with it is colossal and a few charter flights a day don't cut it an extension to stay open for fire cover for an hour will cost at least a couple of grand, do the math it just doesn't add up.
The likes of Exeter 7 NWI will probably keep going and CWL but if your a spotter you'll need a big flask and a lot of patience if you want to see anything other than the odd flybe dash
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Please can someone confirm that the domestic belt is going in and not being left abandoned/not completed? Surely having a ready to go domestic baggage belt will be important to showcase to potential carriers for these kind of routes, or has BOH management just given up, realising that the liklihood of getting domestic/channel islands traffic is nil?
The space around the 2 international belts is incredibly tight, and with 189 pax from a Ryanair or Thomson flight the belts look choked with people. Plus the belts themselves look smaller than the ones they replaced in the portacabins.
Where is the advertising in the arrivals hall? The signs (belt signs, arrival signs, channels, etc) look like they have been 'stuck in' as an afterthought....
Right now BOH looks like a (very expensive) cherry placed carefully on a giant and very smelly sh*t - no real improvement (space/capacity/handling wise) at all apart from perhaps internal savings on energy/cost of operating.
The space around the 2 international belts is incredibly tight, and with 189 pax from a Ryanair or Thomson flight the belts look choked with people. Plus the belts themselves look smaller than the ones they replaced in the portacabins.
Where is the advertising in the arrivals hall? The signs (belt signs, arrival signs, channels, etc) look like they have been 'stuck in' as an afterthought....
Right now BOH looks like a (very expensive) cherry placed carefully on a giant and very smelly sh*t - no real improvement (space/capacity/handling wise) at all apart from perhaps internal savings on energy/cost of operating.
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Its all gone horribly wrong at Bournemouth at this present moment in time with the travelling public in uproar over the crazy car parking system and lack of shops being open for departure and for the airport itself a dramatic fall in operators and destinations just when really it should have been all systems go
My understanding was the old arrivals building was going to be smartened up and used only as a domestic arrivals hall ( not that there are any at this moment in time ) when ever it was required . The front of the terminal area between the new terminal and new arrivals hall was also having boarding put up and landscaped . There is a large area of flattened land now between the two areas , ready i would imagine to expand the departures area towards the arrivals building when needed ( again not for a while now )
My understanding was the old arrivals building was going to be smartened up and used only as a domestic arrivals hall ( not that there are any at this moment in time ) when ever it was required . The front of the terminal area between the new terminal and new arrivals hall was also having boarding put up and landscaped . There is a large area of flattened land now between the two areas , ready i would imagine to expand the departures area towards the arrivals building when needed ( again not for a while now )
MAG now looking at building a hotel!
Bournemouth airport hotel plans revealed by owners (From Bournemouth Echo)
"A spokesperson for the company said: “With the £45million programme of investment at Bournemouth Airport due to be completed by the end of the summer, MAG Developments is investigating the potential requirement for a new on-site hotel which would address the lack of airport hotel accommodation in the vicinity of the terminal building and cater for the larger numbers of passengers using Bournemouth"
What "larger number"? I suppose you'll need to spend a night in a hotel to recover from the long walk in!
Bournemouth airport hotel plans revealed by owners (From Bournemouth Echo)
"A spokesperson for the company said: “With the £45million programme of investment at Bournemouth Airport due to be completed by the end of the summer, MAG Developments is investigating the potential requirement for a new on-site hotel which would address the lack of airport hotel accommodation in the vicinity of the terminal building and cater for the larger numbers of passengers using Bournemouth"
What "larger number"? I suppose you'll need to spend a night in a hotel to recover from the long walk in!
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Why not spend the investment on a coach/bus station and trying to get National Express to send all of their coaches into Bournemouth via the airport (its hardly far from the A338) and get some of those yellow buses to serve the airport regularly from the surrounding towns and villages.
I think the main problem with the drop off charges is that there is literally no alternative. The airport 'shuttles' are useless and always empty, get some regular buses in there.
I think the main problem with the drop off charges is that there is literally no alternative. The airport 'shuttles' are useless and always empty, get some regular buses in there.
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Here here StevieW
In regards to the hotel, it is rumoured to be replacing the old NATS college building. It even has a ready made car park and is a very short walk from the terminal building - i'm sure if it does get the go-ahead (i think it should) it will get a covered walk-way or at least a pedestrian side-walk!! I just hope they select the right brand: 150-200 bed Novotel or Best western rather than Radisson or Mariott.
The viability of the hotel is not just based just on scheduled flights, but the likelihood of diversion traffic which Bournemouth sees a significant amount of - especially for crew needing a night.
The viability of the hotel is not just based just on scheduled flights, but the likelihood of diversion traffic which Bournemouth sees a significant amount of - especially for crew needing a night.
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I can safely say there is a Large amount of Staff that arent happy with the New Car Park Drop Off charges and the PR effect it is having on the Airport.
There is a New Marketing Department that, instead of getting New/More Airlines into Bournemouth decided it was a great idea to do ruin the Catering Department, Create Magazines for the Few remaining Passengers that are present, Distroy the PR of the Airport by introducing the Drop Off Fee etc.
Although the Marketing Department can't be the only ones to blamed for the Lack of Airlines. Certain Management Reputations are getting in the way of new deals being generated as Airlines walk away when they find out who is still Present!
However,
The Airport is still being developed, in answer to a few points made....
Yes there is plans to put a taxi concession inside Arrivals (it in progress of being sorted.
Yes the Domestics Belt in being put in right now (due 20th June).
The Landscaping is in progress The Entrance to the Car Park is moving to join the Exit Barriers, There will be a bus & taxi only drop off outside Arrivals, The Old portacabin Arrivals will be flatten once UKBA have moved out to the new offices. The area will then be developed to be either a open Plaza area, Staff Car Park or a Drop Off/Pick Up Point (Yet to be Decided)
The Grass/Weed Mound HAD to be put in as part of the planning agreement (Council Orders)
There is no control over the Retail Units (as such) they open & shut as they want BUT it has been stated repeatedly about the complaints recieved with them being shut while the Airport is open.
In regards to a Hotel/NATS the possibility is being looked into (no further details at present)
Hope This Helps A Little
There is a New Marketing Department that, instead of getting New/More Airlines into Bournemouth decided it was a great idea to do ruin the Catering Department, Create Magazines for the Few remaining Passengers that are present, Distroy the PR of the Airport by introducing the Drop Off Fee etc.
Although the Marketing Department can't be the only ones to blamed for the Lack of Airlines. Certain Management Reputations are getting in the way of new deals being generated as Airlines walk away when they find out who is still Present!
However,
The Airport is still being developed, in answer to a few points made....
Yes there is plans to put a taxi concession inside Arrivals (it in progress of being sorted.
Yes the Domestics Belt in being put in right now (due 20th June).
The Landscaping is in progress The Entrance to the Car Park is moving to join the Exit Barriers, There will be a bus & taxi only drop off outside Arrivals, The Old portacabin Arrivals will be flatten once UKBA have moved out to the new offices. The area will then be developed to be either a open Plaza area, Staff Car Park or a Drop Off/Pick Up Point (Yet to be Decided)
The Grass/Weed Mound HAD to be put in as part of the planning agreement (Council Orders)
There is no control over the Retail Units (as such) they open & shut as they want BUT it has been stated repeatedly about the complaints recieved with them being shut while the Airport is open.
In regards to a Hotel/NATS the possibility is being looked into (no further details at present)
Hope This Helps A Little
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Great Post. Please keep us updated! Certainly sounds like there is a person/persons within MAG at BOH who are really holding things back. I hope someone has the guts to stand up and be counted...but realise that is not easy.
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Great post as well and good to hear of the inside perspective , something we have all felt as well
Hard to think though that someone in the management side of things at the airport would have that much " CLOUT " for airlines and new routes being offered to Bournemouth for them to walk away from the airport because of personal differences ? ( am i understanding things correctly )
Any news on winter routes particularly ski routes having lost the Innsbruck route with " Inghams Ski " which must be a massive blow !! always full up and to leave just Turin with Crystal is mad considering the demand over the last 15 years
Hard to think though that someone in the management side of things at the airport would have that much " CLOUT " for airlines and new routes being offered to Bournemouth for them to walk away from the airport because of personal differences ? ( am i understanding things correctly )
Any news on winter routes particularly ski routes having lost the Innsbruck route with " Inghams Ski " which must be a massive blow !! always full up and to leave just Turin with Crystal is mad considering the demand over the last 15 years
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no wonder people are forgetting easyJet to Geneva - it's not even in the time-table. And before you tell me the time-table is for summer flights only, guess what: the one-off departure to New York is included (november)! They really have their priorities sorted don't they.
No wonder airlines are turning away (assuming AnInsider has his facts right) because there is practically no support from the PR side. This is a very important part as it provides free media exposure, and LCC's need as much free exposure as possible.
No wonder airlines are turning away (assuming AnInsider has his facts right) because there is practically no support from the PR side. This is a very important part as it provides free media exposure, and LCC's need as much free exposure as possible.
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Ironically, jet2 is headquartered at Bournemouth busnow has it's bulk and core at Leeds. It used to operate from Bournemouth but now doesn't and that's about it. Surprised to see route advertising, or did you just see the logo?
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JSCL.....Jet2 are Head Quartered at LBIA.
This is Building 470, which is the old Head Office of Channel Express which became Jet2...All that is left is a couple of the old gezzers who escaped the move up oop north and look after the Royal Mail and Cargo bits for Panair
( Jet2 + Titan).
They also screen various bits and bobs for the terminal shops and there's a bloke who lives in a portakabin who likes to thwack GE stuff with a hammer...but thats another story !!!
I think you will find the advertising logo on the hangar is actually there to keep the wind and rain off the x-ray machines inside
Also when the Royal Mail is sold off to PostNL and TNTPost by Cameron and chums, you will find that this last bastion of Channex will be extinguished...the embers left to burn bright in a far corner of a field at EXT airport
This is Building 470, which is the old Head Office of Channel Express which became Jet2...All that is left is a couple of the old gezzers who escaped the move up oop north and look after the Royal Mail and Cargo bits for Panair
( Jet2 + Titan).
They also screen various bits and bobs for the terminal shops and there's a bloke who lives in a portakabin who likes to thwack GE stuff with a hammer...but thats another story !!!
I think you will find the advertising logo on the hangar is actually there to keep the wind and rain off the x-ray machines inside
Also when the Royal Mail is sold off to PostNL and TNTPost by Cameron and chums, you will find that this last bastion of Channex will be extinguished...the embers left to burn bright in a far corner of a field at EXT airport