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Old 23rd May 2013, 07:26
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FlyBe pulling out LGW in March. That will be the end of the base here
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Old 23rd May 2013, 07:41
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Err, don't think so. A two aircraft (same type) base is a sustainable entity, unless you know something that I don't.
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Old 23rd May 2013, 07:54
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Miss Gayward: As I say, our strategy is to join the dots. So we would be keen and always looking at new opportunities, and because our Liverpool route has performed very satisfactorily and we are very pleased with the way that Gatwick is performing, we are constantly looking at new opportunities. I cannot say that there is anything that we are able to announce today because we are just not in that position, but we are looking at other opportunities
She's hardly likely to suggest different, is she? They'll use those slots to serve Europe and anyone who thinks any different is deluded.
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Old 23rd May 2013, 08:43
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Spotter - If you read the BE statement properly, it specifically says that 'no other routes from the seven airports involved will be affected.'

BE has several 2 A/C bases across their network.

The IOM-London market, as a whole, is significant. If EZY do walk away, and there's no sensible reason to think they will, after having established a foothold here, then someone else will pick up the slack from LTN, SEN or STN.

We had this 'the end of the World is nigh' hysteria when the LHR slots were lost, but people adapt.........

Connecting traffic well served via MAN, DUB and, to an extent, LCY.

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Old 23rd May 2013, 08:58
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Cap'n H 2 aircraft dont need 26 pilots unless your all going to fly 1 day a week.
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Old 23rd May 2013, 09:20
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Correct - and there won't be. I would be surprised if there are any forced base changes required by March 14.
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Old 23rd May 2013, 10:18
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Captain H. Shurely you dont think the LPL situation is sustainable? MAN will be served with a MAN based aircraft. Im not happy but you gotta wake up to the difference between whats said by airline PR people and whats gonna happen.
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Old 23rd May 2013, 10:26
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Currently Liverpool and Manchester are profitable routes for Flybe, which makes the IOM base still viable.

That may or may not continue to be the case.
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Old 23rd May 2013, 10:32
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This assumes that Flybe are not going to just fly to another "London" airport.
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Old 23rd May 2013, 11:36
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INV has only two based aircraft now (likely one after LGW pull out), ABZ has only one based aircraft now as does NCL (likely zero after the pull out). So there is no reason to assume that just as one route is being dumped from IOM that the base will closed.

There is no reason that a two aircraft base at IOM can't be sustained as long as the routes are paying their way.

IOM-MAN wouldn't work from a MAN based aircraft as it wouldn't feed info the hub/connection banks at MAN so I'd say its very likely it will stay as an IOM based route.

We may even see BHX return to an IOM based aircraft which would need the third aircraft to remain on the Island.

Fact is, we just don't know and jumping to conclusions does no one any good, particularly those staff who are IOM based.
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Old 23rd May 2013, 12:07
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Nothing to stop EZY doing a LPL IOM early flight and onwards to LGW. Who knows EZY may even scale back operations on competing BE routes.

An early short LPL IOM flight could mean say a 0730 IOM LGW service, or perhaps now that IOM London will be in terms of scale easyJet's territory they could change the route to an x2/3 daily IOM LTN or SEN service. I'd put my bets on LTN.

BE may establish a presence at STN or LTN alternatively.

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Old 24th May 2013, 14:37
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Not mentioned on here, as far as I can see, but EDI and GLA direct are no longer in the booking engine after 30th June, with only connections via MAN.

That's another two longstanding routes canned, unless Citywing fancy a crack........
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Old 24th May 2013, 14:43
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if people spent as much time flying as they do on forums the routes might have more passengers
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Old 24th May 2013, 15:02
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Sensible suggestion lfc84.
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Old 24th May 2013, 15:42
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Airport announces withdrawal of EDI and GLA
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Old 24th May 2013, 16:21
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an alternative

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Old 24th May 2013, 20:28
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So in 2014 it will look like this unless a white knight appears?

Aer Lingus Regional: Dublin
BA CityFlyer: London-City
Citywing: Belfast-City, Blackpool, Gloucestershire, Newcastle
EasyJet: Liverpool, London-Gatwick
Flybe: Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Southampton
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Old 24th May 2013, 20:37
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I wouldn't be too sure about SOU either, that's just seasonal atm...

Dublin-IOM isn't loaded for the Winter, that might disappear so FlyBe might have a go there.

Citywing might take on at least one of the Scottish routes, it's about the right sized aircraft for a frequent service but GLA/EDI may be too expensive for them

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Old 24th May 2013, 23:32
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@tarnehat

i suggest you read post 1803 in the dublin thread
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Old 24th May 2013, 23:43
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Airport announces withdrawal of EDI and GLA
GLA goes back way further than EDI, I recall the Manx SD360s on that with ATPs on weekends. What killed profits? It's Loganair not flybe on this one.
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