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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 07:55
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Q) egtt/qfilt/iv/nbo/a/000/999/5405n00437w005
b) from: 13/01/22 07:25 c) to: 13/01/22 18:00

e) deicing facilities not avbl for aircraft larger than js31. Limited
facilities available for small aircraft only
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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 17:58
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Pabely,
I accept that delays elsewhere on the network could cause cancellations such at EZY yesterday, however on the EZY website they stated 'Cancelled due to ice at Isle of Man Airport" and as others have said most other EZY rotations at LGW were operating.

One positive comment is that EZY did actually schedule an extra LGW-IOM-LGW rotation this afternoon which was in addition to the timetable which has no flights due today or tomorrow.
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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 18:27
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That just means the slf ( if there are any) that have been waiting since last Friday could finally travel
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Old 22nd Jan 2013, 20:23
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De Ice rig looked like it broke down after de-icing the EZY LPL flight, with all the black smoke pouring out of it and fluid leaking from underneath it certainly looked like it had seen better days.
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Unearthed a gem from the family papers yesterday - a booklet commemorating the opening ceremony of the terminal buildings on 24 June 1953. There's a plan of the original layout included showing that wonderful pre security departures environment with passengers walking through doors straight out of the "traffic hall" and onto the apron. And arrivals is just a door from the apron into the "traffic hall" No baggage reclaim facility whatsoever. (Loco's would have liked that. I recall working as a porter several years later bringing bags round to the front of the terminal for collection, often in the rain.)

There was an indoor "Observation Deck". Remember that well too. There is a list of airports regularly served, little changed from today, although the operating airlines are of course completely different.

What really amused me was some of the statistics particularly the record number of passengers handled in one month - 32,494 in August 1952. That's only half the number handled in 2011 or 2012. I may be distorting this somewhat though as the document also records that the total through the airport for 1952 was 128,310.

I also have the pack which accompanied the opening of the new departures pier in 1994 by Nigel Mansell. At this point annual passengers were 520,000. We're still waiting for the December 2012 figures which will show the total for 2012 but the moving average in November was 707,000.

It also says the following: "Aviation is a constantly and rapidly evolving industry, where "boom" and "slump" tend to follow one another in rapid succession. However long term aviation has constantly exceeded its growth forecasts." Never a truer word, I think, and let us hope that this current slump comes to an end soon before any more services are withdrawn.
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Old 4th Feb 2013, 20:41
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KLM coming

KLM coming to Fraggle soon with a daily service.

With no long haul APD from AMS they will be targetting LGW and MAN s connecting traffic. Dont know if this is good or just another nail in FlyBees coffin here on the rock.
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Old 4th Feb 2013, 21:24
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Spotter fella excellent skeet. The Euros thought about that route yonks ago but probably ran out of money first.

Brills airport - connect to anywhere you can think of avoiding the smoke.
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Any further details yet re. AMS-IOM-AMS? When it is anticipated to start? Presumably by the F70.
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AMS on an F70, you will be deaf for a week after.
Its a nice plan but I am not sure the IOM travelling public will grasp the possibilities unless there is some serious marketing effort put into it.
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Old 5th Feb 2013, 08:01
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Are we sure that this isn't just extending the FlyBe codeshare arrangements with AF-KLM group, and that, if it is correct, it won't just be operated by BE using metal that is otherwise going to be slack following the post-EZY retrenchment?
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Old 5th Feb 2013, 08:31
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the same question has been posed in the klm thread
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Old 5th Feb 2013, 13:16
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Spotter fella, sure this one rumour wasn't after a few down the Albie?

Assumed it would be in the summer so tried Reynaldsway to Amsterdam on the klm site and it says no flights; same for here to Paris but strange that the island is an option on their airports.

If it ever did hjappen it would take long haulers away from the blues' Gatwick service so why would they want to run amsterdam against gatwick
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Old 11th Feb 2013, 15:13
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Flew into Gatwick South with FlyBe yesterday. Instead of usual route into terminal (pause for photo, walk, get photo checked, then to domestic baggage) walked to international arrivals where nice green signs directed IOM/CI/RoI pax to a lady who checked boarding cards before letting us out. Does anyone know if this is to be the norm in future or just new but temporary?

Seemed to walk for miles, but suspect not that much more than the usual walk to the train station. But I wonder whether there are likely to be delays in the summer months when the immigration hall is heaving?
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Old 11th Feb 2013, 16:05
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Not sure how permanent it is but the leaflet I was given last time at Lgw from the airport says
"From Tuesday 29th January 2013, we're making your journey through Gatwick even easier" .. " This means that you'll no longer need to wait at the facial capture point before collecting your baggage"

Like you I wondered if we would end up with at an hour long queue to get through the cheerful souls at the UK border every time although from what you say there is little or no delay. Certainly the implication from Gatwick is that there is to be less delay than that taken to have ones picture taken.
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Old 12th Feb 2013, 03:20
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The old arrival pier is being renovated, so lots of disruption to come for the rest of the year.
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Old 12th Feb 2013, 08:30
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Hansol It seems demolition and reconstruction of Pier 1 is the plan. See drawing A8 in Gatwick Master Plan

I suspect that means buses for a while....
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Old 12th Feb 2013, 13:50
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Pier 1

The demolition and the building of a new Pier 1 as well as a new baggage facility was actually announced months ago as part of the LGW Masterplan, full details are on the LGW home page.
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Old 12th Feb 2013, 21:08
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Yes a long walk and a longer than usual wait for baggage. The immigration hall was heaving and a few passengers joined the passport check rather than go to the far wall and show boarding card.

There was a couple from GCI who had left their boarding card in the seat pocket so were taken aside.....Wonder what happens when you get to the front of the customs queue with a ship load of tired Virgin travellers behind you trying to explain you only have your IOM driving licence as ID. Not much room to back track.

After baggage collection pax were intercepted and guided through an exit at baggage belt 1 so avoided the blue / green and red channels.

I am sure it will get better PDQ but allow extra time even if you don't have any bags!
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Old 12th Feb 2013, 21:12
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Still be better than the EZY arrangements when arriving from IOM which always seems to involve a bus, sometimes involves a terminal transfer and takes a minimum of 35 minutes from wheels down to train station.
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Old 12th Feb 2013, 21:48
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How does this effect departures from Gatwick with FlyBe? Can passengers still access the FlyBe lounge?

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