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Perhaps if air duty was cut like Northern Ireland and rest of Europe and Aberdeens landing fees more inline with central belt airports more airlines be willing to fly from here
Last I heard was the airport having to turn away business due to peak time stand allocation not being available, ie international and main stands.
Perhaps if more was available especially charter flt wise it would stop people using Glasgow or edinburgh
So I agree more stands required, also longer runway for larger aircraft and further away destinations, what those are I'm not too sure
Last I heard was the airport having to turn away business due to peak time stand allocation not being available, ie international and main stands.
Perhaps if more was available especially charter flt wise it would stop people using Glasgow or edinburgh
So I agree more stands required, also longer runway for larger aircraft and further away destinations, what those are I'm not too sure
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you still come up against the main problem - the catchment area just isn't very big cp Glasgow or EDI
Somewhere like Inverness could cut costs to the airlines to zero but it wouldn't bring in a lot more travelers
Somewhere like Inverness could cut costs to the airlines to zero but it wouldn't bring in a lot more travelers
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35,000 oil and Gas jobs to go, not looking good for North East, perhaps should of spent the money better perhaps like norway has, once oil and gas is gone it's gone forever
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35,000?? Have you got a source for this because I'm pretty certain this would be plastered all over the news if that number of people were losing their jobs.
Bit of a personal grumble, but all this chat about the blip in the oil price is affa dull and only very loosely connected to the topic. I have noticed a lot of needless negativity on here and other threads i.e. Flybe reopen their base somehow ends up being spun to be a bit of a downer.
Bit of a personal grumble, but all this chat about the blip in the oil price is affa dull and only very loosely connected to the topic. I have noticed a lot of needless negativity on here and other threads i.e. Flybe reopen their base somehow ends up being spun to be a bit of a downer.
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35,000?? Have you got a source for this because I'm pretty certain this would be plastered all over the news if that number of people were losing their jobs.
Bit of a personal grumble, but all this chat about the blip in the oil price is affa dull and only very loosely connected to the topic.
Bit of a personal grumble, but all this chat about the blip in the oil price is affa dull and only very loosely connected to the topic.
Report predicts loss of up to 35,000 oil and gas jobs over next five years
The UK oil and gas industry will shed up to 35,000 jobs over the next five years as major firms cut spending plans in the North Sea, a report predicts.
But the industry will need to take on as many as 12,000 new entrants up to 2019. These will make up for those retiring, as well as to fill jobs in areas such as enhanced oil recovery and shale gas fracking.
The UK oil and gas industry will shed up to 35,000 jobs over the next five years as major firms cut spending plans in the North Sea, a report predicts.
But the industry will need to take on as many as 12,000 new entrants up to 2019. These will make up for those retiring, as well as to fill jobs in areas such as enhanced oil recovery and shale gas fracking.
While discussion of the current oil price may be slightly off topic, the fortunes of Aberdeen and therefore the airport are heavily tied to the state of the oil industry. If 35,000 jobs are to be cut, then so too will the staff travel budgets. Therefore we are unlikely to see much growth or new investment at the airport while the oil industry is cutting back.
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I think its all relevant in the grand scheme of ABZ. Without an oil and gas industry all we have is a small regional airfield .... wait a minute 
I know that a number of majors are laying off or are making plans to lay off non Ops personnel which is the thin end of the wedge - HR / Admin / Accounts. Its always a good time to cut out the fat. Less money in the pocket less air travel.
There also several Companies now down to "essential travel" only. I had three attendees at a meeting last week in London as opposed to ten because of travel restrictions. Reduced air travel through ABZ.
Drilling programs next year could be slashed as the North Sea is an expensive place to explore - reduced helicopter traffic.
Most Oil shares have dropped 35% and Companies will react (have to be seen to react) to investors to restore investor confidence.
Any cuts are on the way will inevitably lead to loss of jobs and reduced business travel through ABZ.
Very relevant I'd say.
I know that a number of majors are laying off or are making plans to lay off non Ops personnel which is the thin end of the wedge - HR / Admin / Accounts. Its always a good time to cut out the fat. Less money in the pocket less air travel.
There also several Companies now down to "essential travel" only. I had three attendees at a meeting last week in London as opposed to ten because of travel restrictions. Reduced air travel through ABZ.
Drilling programs next year could be slashed as the North Sea is an expensive place to explore - reduced helicopter traffic.
Most Oil shares have dropped 35% and Companies will react (have to be seen to react) to investors to restore investor confidence.
Any cuts are on the way will inevitably lead to loss of jobs and reduced business travel through ABZ.
Very relevant I'd say.
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Sorry Capt D, but I think this downturn will be worse than the 1986/7 one which was the first 'shock' for this area if I recall correctly. The speed of the fall in oil prices this time has surprised even me... but some analysts did correctly predict a fall when shale oil in the US boomed. To think some were predicting $150 & upwards!
This time, it's come at the worst possible time - high operating costs vs. aging oil provence. The (relative) peanuts being belatedly offered to Big Oil UK by Govt will have only limited appeal. They're not interested in what goes on up here. They keep consulting, then conult about consulting, thus kicking the issues - the preverbial oil can - down Dyce Drive.
Once upon a long ago $60 oil would not have been a barrier. Today, it's making many fields uneconomic, both those in production and those proposed.
I laughed at all those new industrial units, business units, housing developments and hotels being thrown up in a panic or proposed. Talk about overkill! Who's going to fill them?? Who will fill them now??
Yes, ABZ is nearly wholly reliant on the oil industry. The fall off will affect every nook & cranny up here, and ABZ will not be immune from it. HAH will be relieved they sold up when they did!
Least we may not need another baggage carousel...
This time, it's come at the worst possible time - high operating costs vs. aging oil provence. The (relative) peanuts being belatedly offered to Big Oil UK by Govt will have only limited appeal. They're not interested in what goes on up here. They keep consulting, then conult about consulting, thus kicking the issues - the preverbial oil can - down Dyce Drive.
Once upon a long ago $60 oil would not have been a barrier. Today, it's making many fields uneconomic, both those in production and those proposed.
I laughed at all those new industrial units, business units, housing developments and hotels being thrown up in a panic or proposed. Talk about overkill! Who's going to fill them?? Who will fill them now??
Yes, ABZ is nearly wholly reliant on the oil industry. The fall off will affect every nook & cranny up here, and ABZ will not be immune from it. HAH will be relieved they sold up when they did!
Least we may not need another baggage carousel...
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Pax up, Movements down
299k pax for November, up 12k but movements down, growth of 4%.
Movements were down 1.5%, sign of the times and oil price perhaps
Of particular note was double digit growth at Glasgow and Southampton, shows what Ryanair can achieve at an airport, perhaps Aberdeen has missed a trick here but although pax are up doesn't look good for future
Movements were down 1.5%, sign of the times and oil price perhaps
Of particular note was double digit growth at Glasgow and Southampton, shows what Ryanair can achieve at an airport, perhaps Aberdeen has missed a trick here but although pax are up doesn't look good for future
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I never suggested its irrelevant to ABZ - you'd have to have one hell of a pair of blinkers on to suggest it doesn't. But 5 years is a long time in most industries. All it takes is a bomb going off somewhere and that price could quite well skyrocket once more
I personally believe we will see recovery in the coming months to a stable $90 or so.
Always a positive somewhere!
Anyway, Gran Canaria is now bookable for W15 with BY. TFS remains twice weekly. Still waiting to see if Fuerteventura is added for S15 - still in the drop down.
I personally believe we will see recovery in the coming months to a stable $90 or so.
Least we may not need another baggage carousel...
Anyway, Gran Canaria is now bookable for W15 with BY. TFS remains twice weekly. Still waiting to see if Fuerteventura is added for S15 - still in the drop down.
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New owners of Aberdeen International Airport confirmed - Local / News / Evening Express
Sale finalised. Just in time for the oil meltdown. HAH dodged a bullet there.
Sale finalised. Just in time for the oil meltdown. HAH dodged a bullet there.
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Travelled through ABZ twice this week with flybe to LCY and had a few observations.
New entrance and paving looks nice buy they've been cheap and put tarmac on the rest and I left the existing lock block in other areas. It just looks like a cheaply done half arsed job.
Why get rid of the car hire desks yet leave Travelex where it is? If the idea was to open up the front of the terminal then why not do it all? Yet again half arsed.
New Joe's Coffee House and smaller landside WH Smith look good and I assume are in preparation for a larger airside WH Smith and food outlet.
Fast track security quiet and only one lane of normal security open. No effort to process normal passengers through fast track when nobody using it. I was randomly selected for a body scan. I had to wait a few minutes for this as someone else was being scanned. Meanwhile nobody behind me in the queue was allowed through the security arch leading to quite a tailback. Is this normal procedure or just an Aberdeen thing?
The Servisair lounge is beyond a joke. Uncleared tables everywhere, Christmas decorations such as paper chains school children make and printed A4 sheets stuck to walls, white and rosé wine not chilled (is an ice bucket that expensive to buy), crackers but no cheese and half the light bulbs not working!
On my return we landed at 1131 and had to wait until 1151 for a gate! Is ABZ really that short of stands even in non peak hours? It was 1201 when I disembarked, 30 minutes after landing. I've not been delayed that much even at LHR.
We took the route from gate 2 to UK arrivals, ie between the two lounges. The corridor was littered with Boots delivery trollies and crates. Nothing says welcome to Aberdeen like walking through something akin to a goods yard!
Am I being overly critical or not? Would appreciate your comments.
Thanks.
New entrance and paving looks nice buy they've been cheap and put tarmac on the rest and I left the existing lock block in other areas. It just looks like a cheaply done half arsed job.
Why get rid of the car hire desks yet leave Travelex where it is? If the idea was to open up the front of the terminal then why not do it all? Yet again half arsed.
New Joe's Coffee House and smaller landside WH Smith look good and I assume are in preparation for a larger airside WH Smith and food outlet.
Fast track security quiet and only one lane of normal security open. No effort to process normal passengers through fast track when nobody using it. I was randomly selected for a body scan. I had to wait a few minutes for this as someone else was being scanned. Meanwhile nobody behind me in the queue was allowed through the security arch leading to quite a tailback. Is this normal procedure or just an Aberdeen thing?
The Servisair lounge is beyond a joke. Uncleared tables everywhere, Christmas decorations such as paper chains school children make and printed A4 sheets stuck to walls, white and rosé wine not chilled (is an ice bucket that expensive to buy), crackers but no cheese and half the light bulbs not working!
On my return we landed at 1131 and had to wait until 1151 for a gate! Is ABZ really that short of stands even in non peak hours? It was 1201 when I disembarked, 30 minutes after landing. I've not been delayed that much even at LHR.
We took the route from gate 2 to UK arrivals, ie between the two lounges. The corridor was littered with Boots delivery trollies and crates. Nothing says welcome to Aberdeen like walking through something akin to a goods yard!
Am I being overly critical or not? Would appreciate your comments.
Thanks.
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I think they gave up caring about 20 years ago Joe
Security always seems to be more of a pain at ABZ than elsewhere - things like taking your shoes off for example
never enough space airside for passengers - would rather extend the Duty Free
Maybe things will change under the new regime................. and with the downturn in Aberdeen employment we might see a slightly more customer centered attitude from the workers
Security always seems to be more of a pain at ABZ than elsewhere - things like taking your shoes off for example
never enough space airside for passengers - would rather extend the Duty Free
Maybe things will change under the new regime................. and with the downturn in Aberdeen employment we might see a slightly more customer centered attitude from the workers
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Your airport needs to get more flights to Northern Ireland. I have to goto an applicant day and it looks like i'm going to have to pay double the price it takes me to get the SE of England.
There is like 3 flights a week on a crappy turboprop and if you don't take that you have to take a crappy 3 hour train from Edinburgh. What is it with flights to Scotland!
There is like 3 flights a week on a crappy turboprop and if you don't take that you have to take a crappy 3 hour train from Edinburgh. What is it with flights to Scotland!
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Your airport needs to get more flights to Northern Ireland. I have to goto an applicant day and it looks like i'm going to have to pay double the price it takes me to get the SE of England.
There is like 3 flights a week on a crappy turboprop and if you don't take that you have to take a crappy 3 hour train from Edinburgh. What is it with flights to Scotland!
There is like 3 flights a week on a crappy turboprop and if you don't take that you have to take a crappy 3 hour train from Edinburgh. What is it with flights to Scotland!