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I suspect Aberdeen could suffer a 10% fall or greater in a/c movements due to the downturn.
January's figures will be very interesting and could be a benchmark for the year ahead
January's figures will be very interesting and could be a benchmark for the year ahead
Loss of Traffic
I suspect that ABZ will loose a similar amount of helicopter traffic due to the more restictive, sea state 6 and triggered lightning rules being applied this year. Operators will combine more flights in order to catch up. I don't believe the Scatsta ESB flights have caught up since Christmas.
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BBC News - Carbuncle Awards: Aberdeen named Scotland's most dismal town
Carbuncle Awards: Aberdeen named Scotland's most dismal town
I think that's two years running............
Carbuncle Awards: Aberdeen named Scotland's most dismal town
I think that's two years running............
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you're correct
Past winners:-
2000 The Lanarkshire town of Airdrie The UGC, now Cineworld, cinema in Glasgow was awarded worst building.[5]
2001
The town centre of the new town of Cumbernauld won the Carbuncle Award in 2001. The worst building Carbuncle went to Glasgow's maternity hospital at the Royal Infirmary.
2005
Cumbernauld was the winner of the Carbuncle Awards 2005, having earned the accolade for the second time.
2007
The town of Coatbridge in Lanarkshire was the winner of the Carbuncle Awards 2007.[9][10][11]
2009
The town of Glenrothes in Fife was the winner of the Carbuncle Awards 2009.
2010
The official winner of the Carbuncle Awards 2010 was John o' Groats, however, after learning no one wanted to pick up the award on the town's behalf, residents of the town of Denny in Falkirk requested the trophy instead.
2011 The town of Linwood, Renfrewshire was the winner of the Carbuncle Awards
2013
The town of New Cumnock in Ayrshire was the winner of the Carbuncle Awards 2013
2014 Aberdeen
EDINBURGH Airport’s new eastern terminal extension has netted a top award - voted Scotland’s worst building.
Past winners:-
2000 The Lanarkshire town of Airdrie The UGC, now Cineworld, cinema in Glasgow was awarded worst building.[5]
2001
The town centre of the new town of Cumbernauld won the Carbuncle Award in 2001. The worst building Carbuncle went to Glasgow's maternity hospital at the Royal Infirmary.
2005
Cumbernauld was the winner of the Carbuncle Awards 2005, having earned the accolade for the second time.
2007
The town of Coatbridge in Lanarkshire was the winner of the Carbuncle Awards 2007.[9][10][11]
2009
The town of Glenrothes in Fife was the winner of the Carbuncle Awards 2009.
2010
The official winner of the Carbuncle Awards 2010 was John o' Groats, however, after learning no one wanted to pick up the award on the town's behalf, residents of the town of Denny in Falkirk requested the trophy instead.
2011 The town of Linwood, Renfrewshire was the winner of the Carbuncle Awards
2013
The town of New Cumnock in Ayrshire was the winner of the Carbuncle Awards 2013
2014 Aberdeen
EDINBURGH Airport’s new eastern terminal extension has netted a top award - voted Scotland’s worst building.
Think wx was a factor in January numbers, remember ABZ had the biggest growth of any of the big 3 airports in Scotland in 2014.
Having said that, the oil industry looks like going into lockdown this year. IMHO I think pax numbers will decline this year, not by too much I hope.
Having said that, the oil industry looks like going into lockdown this year. IMHO I think pax numbers will decline this year, not by too much I hope.
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the downturn cometh?
Interesting post 'from another place'...
"The January 2015 passenger data for Aberdeen, Scotland indicate the impact lower oil prices have on the demand for air travel:
- ABERDEEN - AMSTERDAM 20.858 -2%
- ABERDEEN - COPENHAGEN 2952 -22%
- ABERDEEN - DUBLIN 2776 -28%
- ABERDEEN - FRANKFURT MAIN 7907 -10%
- ABERDEEN - PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE) 7956 +4%
- ABERDEEN - GATWICK 9502 -14%
- ABERDEEN - HEATHROW 53513 +4%
- ABERDEEN - LONDON CITY 4428 -24%
- ABERDEEN - LUTON 4224 -5%
- ABERDEEN - NORWICH 3936 -12%
- ABERDEEN - STORNOWAY 431 -10%
- ABERDEEN - SUMBURGH 8933 -26%"
Interesting LHR & CDG UP... bet that won't last.
One horse town... one horse airport.
"The January 2015 passenger data for Aberdeen, Scotland indicate the impact lower oil prices have on the demand for air travel:
- ABERDEEN - AMSTERDAM 20.858 -2%
- ABERDEEN - COPENHAGEN 2952 -22%
- ABERDEEN - DUBLIN 2776 -28%
- ABERDEEN - FRANKFURT MAIN 7907 -10%
- ABERDEEN - PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE) 7956 +4%
- ABERDEEN - GATWICK 9502 -14%
- ABERDEEN - HEATHROW 53513 +4%
- ABERDEEN - LONDON CITY 4428 -24%
- ABERDEEN - LUTON 4224 -5%
- ABERDEEN - NORWICH 3936 -12%
- ABERDEEN - STORNOWAY 431 -10%
- ABERDEEN - SUMBURGH 8933 -26%"
Interesting LHR & CDG UP... bet that won't last.
One horse town... one horse airport.
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Strange set of figures. Likes of Scatsta & the Rigs both up in numbers.
All of Easterns routes posted declines. I just booked SOU-ABZ with them for £29 which is unheard of!!
DUB, FRA, LGW, LCY all had marked capacity or frequency reductions + plenty wx issues in AMS.
GVA avg. load was 117.
Glad to see the additional TFS capacity being absorbed with 95% loads.
Pax up 2,000 despite all the red ink. Summer ain't looking brilliant though with MAN, BHX & LHR taking notable hits in frequency. LCY will also remain on the Saab 2000 now so presumably a 4 aircraft base it won't be now?
Interesting/worrying times ahead.
All of Easterns routes posted declines. I just booked SOU-ABZ with them for £29 which is unheard of!!
DUB, FRA, LGW, LCY all had marked capacity or frequency reductions + plenty wx issues in AMS.
GVA avg. load was 117.
Glad to see the additional TFS capacity being absorbed with 95% loads.
Pax up 2,000 despite all the red ink. Summer ain't looking brilliant though with MAN, BHX & LHR taking notable hits in frequency. LCY will also remain on the Saab 2000 now so presumably a 4 aircraft base it won't be now?
Interesting/worrying times ahead.
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Hmm... I could see bmi pulling out of ABZ altogether. Not much left route-wise once MAN goes... NWI & EBJ, both oil-related. They are supposed to be increasing BRS to thrice daily on weekdays... but will they? BRS is their main focus now.
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bmi regional
The bmi regional timetable between ABZ and BRS seems to have been amended again. From the end of April it will be:
Mondays and Tuesdays
Dep ABZ 0640, arr BRS 0800 - dep BRS 0825, arr ABZ 0950
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays
Dep ABZ 0640, arr BRS 0800 - dep BRS 0825, arr ABZ 0950
Dep ABZ 1430, arr BRS 1550 - dep BRS 1620, arr ABZ 1745
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
Saturdays
No service
Sundays
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
From this it seems that on Mondays and Tuesdays one rotation will be operated by an ABZ-based aircraft, and on Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays two rotations will be operated by an ABZ-based aircraft.
Mondays and Tuesdays
Dep ABZ 0640, arr BRS 0800 - dep BRS 0825, arr ABZ 0950
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays
Dep ABZ 0640, arr BRS 0800 - dep BRS 0825, arr ABZ 0950
Dep ABZ 1430, arr BRS 1550 - dep BRS 1620, arr ABZ 1745
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
Saturdays
No service
Sundays
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
From this it seems that on Mondays and Tuesdays one rotation will be operated by an ABZ-based aircraft, and on Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays two rotations will be operated by an ABZ-based aircraft.
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More Negative Waves....
February down by 0.9% and almost laughably blamed on WX at other airports. The busiest route, LHR, didn't have a single cancellation in the month.
Oil Rigs still up slightly though.
Oil Rigs still up slightly though.
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The bmi regional timetable between ABZ and BRS seems to have been amended again. From the end of April it will be:
Mondays and Tuesdays
Dep ABZ 0640, arr BRS 0800 - dep BRS 0825, arr ABZ 0950
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays
Dep ABZ 0640, arr BRS 0800 - dep BRS 0825, arr ABZ 0950
Dep ABZ 1430, arr BRS 1550 - dep BRS 1620, arr ABZ 1745
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
Saturdays
No service
Sundays
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
From this it seems that on Mondays and Tuesdays one rotation will be operated by an ABZ-based aircraft, and on Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays two rotations will be operated by an ABZ-based aircraft.
Mondays and Tuesdays
Dep ABZ 0640, arr BRS 0800 - dep BRS 0825, arr ABZ 0950
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays
Dep ABZ 0640, arr BRS 0800 - dep BRS 0825, arr ABZ 0950
Dep ABZ 1430, arr BRS 1550 - dep BRS 1620, arr ABZ 1745
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
Saturdays
No service
Sundays
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
From this it seems that on Mondays and Tuesdays one rotation will be operated by an ABZ-based aircraft, and on Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays two rotations will be operated by an ABZ-based aircraft.
Mondays
Dep BRS 0700, arr ABZ 0825 - dep ABZ 0855, arr BRS 1015
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
Tuesday to Friday
Dep ABZ 0640, arr BRS 0800 - dep BRS 0825, arr ABZ 0950
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
Saturdays
No service
Sundays
Dep BRS 1740, arr ABZ 1905 - dep ABZ 1930, arr BRS 2050
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Cutbacks continue
Reported on the Flybe thread that the ABZ-LBA-SOU-JER shuttle will cease at the end of the winter season.
So much for their growth at ABZ. Pretty sure this would have been a Victim regardless of current oil industry health.
So much for their growth at ABZ. Pretty sure this would have been a Victim regardless of current oil industry health.
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Doesn't look good for Aberdeens future, pax dropping, movements dropping, routes getting cancelled and frequencies cut back,
So with flybe dropping routes, bmi to drop manchester and Virgin set to finish in a few months what does the future hold for the airport especially given the oil industry seems to be in quite a large decline?
So with flybe dropping routes, bmi to drop manchester and Virgin set to finish in a few months what does the future hold for the airport especially given the oil industry seems to be in quite a large decline?