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I wonder if CWL will become a loco route, as LPL has done. I read bmi Baby have a few gaps in their schedule, would they consider adding CWL-ABZ to their BHX-ABZ service?
Alternative is of course that CWL remains unserved for years to come, as STN has been for the past 7 yrs or so.
Wonder why Eastern announced the route then proceeded not to launch any service.
I wonder if CWL will become a loco route, as LPL has done. I read bmi Baby have a few gaps in their schedule, would they consider adding CWL-ABZ to their BHX-ABZ service?
Alternative is of course that CWL remains unserved for years to come, as STN has been for the past 7 yrs or so.
Wonder why Eastern announced the route then proceeded not to launch any service.
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Runway closure
Anybody hear anything about a runway closure in Aberdeen yesterday (5th)?
That was Ryanair's excuse for cancelling ABZ-LPL. Difficult to believe when I'd been sat in the departure lounge watching numerous aircraft movements.
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That was Ryanair's excuse for cancelling ABZ-LPL. Difficult to believe when I'd been sat in the departure lounge watching numerous aircraft movements.
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Speaking of RYR, I see mention was made in the local press that Michael Cawley had reaffirmed RYR's intention, as previously stated by his boss, that the airline would look to launch euro routes from ABZ to Germany, Scandi & possibly Italia if the runway was extended.
With this knowledge, can't the Bee Aay Aay extend the terminal AND runway hand-in-hand, instead of doing one first, then the other (the runway) in 2008.
What's the point of getting approval from the Cooncil after placing great emphasis on how the extension was VITAL for both airport & the local economy, only to then wait a year after approval was given before contructing about half of the extension. I struggle to see the sense.
You may as well get the 300m in now, get it over with, AS WELL AS constructing new stands, extending the terminal & so forth. It looks as if ABZ will need all of these developments soonest.
With this knowledge, can't the Bee Aay Aay extend the terminal AND runway hand-in-hand, instead of doing one first, then the other (the runway) in 2008.
What's the point of getting approval from the Cooncil after placing great emphasis on how the extension was VITAL for both airport & the local economy, only to then wait a year after approval was given before contructing about half of the extension. I struggle to see the sense.
You may as well get the 300m in now, get it over with, AS WELL AS constructing new stands, extending the terminal & so forth. It looks as if ABZ will need all of these developments soonest.
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Runway Extension
I believe that the present local BAA management would dearly love to build the full 300m runway extension, but it won't happen for years (if ever) due to the lack of funds and the huge amount of extra work which would be involved in construction. I have heard that the small hill to the North of the airfield would have to be levelled and there is doubt over whether the reservoir at Overton would infringe the new safeguard area.
A 150m extension (which is bigger than my source originally thought - see page one!) would at least ensure that Embraers could depart with a full load in wet weather. The P and J dream of flying to the States in widebodies will have to wait!
Talking of improvements to the airport, I haven't heard any mention of improving access/egress by road from the Parkhill/Oldmeldrum side. It is a total joke for much of the morning and evening.
A 150m extension (which is bigger than my source originally thought - see page one!) would at least ensure that Embraers could depart with a full load in wet weather. The P and J dream of flying to the States in widebodies will have to wait!
Talking of improvements to the airport, I haven't heard any mention of improving access/egress by road from the Parkhill/Oldmeldrum side. It is a total joke for much of the morning and evening.
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I was listening to ATC when FR was on approach on the 5th feb.
He was about 10 miles out and asked for braking action on the runway (after the snow shower) and was told the runway was slush (so many mm's) and couldn't get a proper friction reading because of the slush.
FR wasn't happy with this and ATC put them in the hold until a runway inspection was done.
After about 10 mins ATC told FR the runway was now wet full lengh and they came in for another approach.
They were cleared to land and a light snow shower started again, FR pulled up and said they weren't happy and diverted to EDI.
Now during all this planes were landing and departing. Airfield was never closed during the couple of hours I was listening.
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He was about 10 miles out and asked for braking action on the runway (after the snow shower) and was told the runway was slush (so many mm's) and couldn't get a proper friction reading because of the slush.
FR wasn't happy with this and ATC put them in the hold until a runway inspection was done.
After about 10 mins ATC told FR the runway was now wet full lengh and they came in for another approach.
They were cleared to land and a light snow shower started again, FR pulled up and said they weren't happy and diverted to EDI.
Now during all this planes were landing and departing. Airfield was never closed during the couple of hours I was listening.
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Don't forget that the 737-800 is not the world's best short field performer. Add in those winglets (crosswind component issues) and the runway contamination and it was probably a sensible call.
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So the Ryanair 738's are the new Trident then.There will be a lot div outs if they don't like winter,cross winds etc.Gone are the days when the likes of Danair could sit in the hold for ages waiting for improvements.Guess thats what you get for 1p.
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That will be the same Tridents that would put the centre engine into reverse prior to the flare and still leave tyre marks in the undershoot!
Braking action is a bone of contention....each operator have there own criteria and until the authorities sort this out will continue to cause problems. My guess is that it will take something like the BRS incidents to move things on at pace.
Braking action is a bone of contention....each operator have there own criteria and until the authorities sort this out will continue to cause problems. My guess is that it will take something like the BRS incidents to move things on at pace.
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Yep the old ground grippers.I think they put the two outboards into reverse at 10ft but I don't know if it helped stop the thing.
As far as RYR goes I think it seems to be more a policy of always carrying the minimum holding fuel,to please the bean counters,rather than a little extra.The number of times that operators arrive not being able to hold for improvements in runway conditions is significant nowadays.I can look at the wx and see that it's going to snow,yet it comes as a complete surprise to some pilots into Aberdeen.
As far as RYR goes I think it seems to be more a policy of always carrying the minimum holding fuel,to please the bean counters,rather than a little extra.The number of times that operators arrive not being able to hold for improvements in runway conditions is significant nowadays.I can look at the wx and see that it's going to snow,yet it comes as a complete surprise to some pilots into Aberdeen.
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OK, I'll admit to working with Air UK for a time in 1998 (Customer Svs Agt). Spent most of my time dealing with lost luggage & lost passengers!
Mighty fine airline, sadly about the same time as KLM were coming in to take them over. Not long after I moved on they started axing their ABZ regional services if my memory serves.
Still wish I had stuck it out - but shift work (up for 5am start) wasn't my bag!
Yes been following the goings-on at Dyce for 25yrs or so, & remember the Tridents well. Also the BA TriStars that occasionally visited on the LHR run. They must have been impressive on the ground, as impressive as they were on approach or climb out. Wonder how THEY managed to stop in time!
Could BA fill the TriStars anyone remember?
ps. I do still fly as a pax with my current job, mainly to London, but occasionally European as well.
OK, I'll admit to working with Air UK for a time in 1998 (Customer Svs Agt). Spent most of my time dealing with lost luggage & lost passengers!
Mighty fine airline, sadly about the same time as KLM were coming in to take them over. Not long after I moved on they started axing their ABZ regional services if my memory serves.
Still wish I had stuck it out - but shift work (up for 5am start) wasn't my bag!
Yes been following the goings-on at Dyce for 25yrs or so, & remember the Tridents well. Also the BA TriStars that occasionally visited on the LHR run. They must have been impressive on the ground, as impressive as they were on approach or climb out. Wonder how THEY managed to stop in time!
Could BA fill the TriStars anyone remember?
ps. I do still fly as a pax with my current job, mainly to London, but occasionally European as well.
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The Tristars were a bit tight on the taxiway,and really tight on stand.I think they had trouble guiding it in,and the rear RB211 was well over the vehicle road.As for airfield performance it seemed far better than a lot of BA's fleet at the time.The Tridents, and BAC1-11 could be marginal in and out of Dyce.I think also that the Tristar came up on a Friday teatime,which was peak time but it was more an aircraft scheduling problem.Maybe they needed all the others on the shuttle routes.Anyway a nice aircraft to fly in.
More flights ABZ- LSI this summer
Source: Shetland-news.co.uk
Extra seats for summer flyers
LOGANAIR has increased the number of flights from Shetland to Aberdeen so that during the summer months more than 10,000 seats will be available for passengers.
Announcing its summer schedule, the airline said yesterday (Friday) that due to the addition of an extra flight four days a week, the total number of flights leaving Shetland for Aberdeen will rise from 32 to 36 per week.
There is no change to the number of flights to Glasgow, Edinburgh or Kirkwall and Inverness.
Chief executive Jim Cameron said: "The successful introduction of the Air Discount Scheme, new one-way fares and more direct flights is great news for our customers.
"There has never been a better time for visitors to sample the delights of the Scottish highlands and islands or for island residents to take to the air."
The summer schedule runs from 25 March to 27 October 2007.
With all the extra flights roumoured to be starting this summer. Will Aberdeen be able to cope?
Source: Shetland-news.co.uk
Extra seats for summer flyers
LOGANAIR has increased the number of flights from Shetland to Aberdeen so that during the summer months more than 10,000 seats will be available for passengers.
Announcing its summer schedule, the airline said yesterday (Friday) that due to the addition of an extra flight four days a week, the total number of flights leaving Shetland for Aberdeen will rise from 32 to 36 per week.
There is no change to the number of flights to Glasgow, Edinburgh or Kirkwall and Inverness.
Chief executive Jim Cameron said: "The successful introduction of the Air Discount Scheme, new one-way fares and more direct flights is great news for our customers.
"There has never been a better time for visitors to sample the delights of the Scottish highlands and islands or for island residents to take to the air."
The summer schedule runs from 25 March to 27 October 2007.
With all the extra flights roumoured to be starting this summer. Will Aberdeen be able to cope?
and the roads to and from the airport???
I was thinking about the stand allocation.. there were instances of 25+ min delays once the a/c were on the ground waiting for stands.. unless the busses get pressed into action a bit more this year I think there'll be a lot more ground delays due to certain a/c only being allowed onto specific stands.
I was thinking about the stand allocation.. there were instances of 25+ min delays once the a/c were on the ground waiting for stands.. unless the busses get pressed into action a bit more this year I think there'll be a lot more ground delays due to certain a/c only being allowed onto specific stands.
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Announcement tomorrow apparently re a BRU service, but a DIRECT service rather than via STN. Presume this is part of the City Star expansion.
Operational daily ex Sat.
(Cheers Darren for the heads up )
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Ba 1301
This mornings Heathrow flight was canx BA 1301 due to depart at 06.30am.
The reason:
One of the pilots opened an over wing exit (not realising it was armed) to have a feel of the wing to see if it needed de-iced.
A bit of a bad move in my opinion.
I'm not sure if this is a standard procedure
The aircraft finally left for heathrow at 09.30 empty. (not allowed to carry pax with a shoot blown).
It was an A319.
Someone will get a smacked wrist.
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The reason:
One of the pilots opened an over wing exit (not realising it was armed) to have a feel of the wing to see if it needed de-iced.
A bit of a bad move in my opinion.
I'm not sure if this is a standard procedure
The aircraft finally left for heathrow at 09.30 empty. (not allowed to carry pax with a shoot blown).
It was an A319.
Someone will get a smacked wrist.
Stu...