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Interesting how those near Coventry (and therefore perhaps hearing the whispers) are a lot more positive than those further away. The Swiss (who as a nation are famous for guarding secrets) are being extremely thorough in what they are doing and are taking their time but the indications seem to be that it will lead to a positive outcome.
Previous posts that many of the Air Traffic staff have gone to other posts are, I am told, incorrect and they will hopefully be busy again soon.
Previous posts that many of the Air Traffic staff have gone to other posts are, I am told, incorrect and they will hopefully be busy again soon.
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I also believe that this will come to a positive outcome.
As for the ATC's, they didn't work for WMIAL towards the end hence they wouldn't have lost their jobs based on WMIAL going bust. However im sure that even Marshalls don't have enough jobs for them elsewhere within the group but neither would they want to lose all their staff with the possibility of a contract being re negotiated with new buyers. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
As for the ATC's, they didn't work for WMIAL towards the end hence they wouldn't have lost their jobs based on WMIAL going bust. However im sure that even Marshalls don't have enough jobs for them elsewhere within the group but neither would they want to lose all their staff with the possibility of a contract being re negotiated with new buyers. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Covenants, Article 4, Section 106 & other constraints
Can anyone explain is simple terms what bylaws, planning constraints, old covenants etc. exist on parts or all of the airfield site that may dictate what can and cannot be undertaken with the land?
The last lot spent mindblowing amounts on legal fees trying to get their commercial terminal built. The next lot, whoever that may be, will be spending a fortune doing their due dilligence and unearthing dusty old deeds and documents which dictate that you can't dig it up, you can't build in one corner but you may be able to in another, the land in the middle has to be used as an airstrip for all eternity but the land on the edges can be dug up for sand... etc. etc.
It will be a minefield of weird and wonderful constraints to developing the bits you might like to to build industrial or retail property to help underwrite the costs of running an airport.
You might be able to build a car park, but it may only be used for air passengers - but you can't build a terminal, and round and round it goes.
No doubt there's probabbly some nice bits of contaminated land to throw into the mix which may prove uneconomic to touch.
If you are very lucky, you might find a few V1 and V2 rockets buried around there too - did they get that far?
Dig deep, very, very deep - legally and litterally.
The last lot spent mindblowing amounts on legal fees trying to get their commercial terminal built. The next lot, whoever that may be, will be spending a fortune doing their due dilligence and unearthing dusty old deeds and documents which dictate that you can't dig it up, you can't build in one corner but you may be able to in another, the land in the middle has to be used as an airstrip for all eternity but the land on the edges can be dug up for sand... etc. etc.
It will be a minefield of weird and wonderful constraints to developing the bits you might like to to build industrial or retail property to help underwrite the costs of running an airport.
You might be able to build a car park, but it may only be used for air passengers - but you can't build a terminal, and round and round it goes.
No doubt there's probabbly some nice bits of contaminated land to throw into the mix which may prove uneconomic to touch.
If you are very lucky, you might find a few V1 and V2 rockets buried around there too - did they get that far?
Dig deep, very, very deep - legally and litterally.
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I don't believe there is any covenant restricting it. The only thing I could find previously was the restriction in the lease from the Council, that it could only be used as an airport and associated business'
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The 106 agreement that was being negotiated in return for the permanent passenger terminal would have placed significant restrictions on the airport operation with regard to noise and night flights.
With hindsight, the failure to obtain pp for the terminal may be a blessing in disguise because the airport now has very few restrictions on its operation and an awful lot of development can take place within permitted development rights without the need for any further 106 agreeements.
With hindsight, the failure to obtain pp for the terminal may be a blessing in disguise because the airport now has very few restrictions on its operation and an awful lot of development can take place within permitted development rights without the need for any further 106 agreeements.
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Fortunately as things currently stand you are very wrong on this occasion. Coventry is not dead and it will not be closed permanently and all the organisations of commercial worth have not moved away.
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More likely to be more guff about the Popes proposed visit and wanting to use the airport grounds for people to see him......I think they might be needing some divine intervention.
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Call100,
You are right. I was in the 'local' at lunchtime having an orange juice (as I was flying this afternoon) and a couple of guys were discussing security arrangements. Apparently the Pope has asked to sample local local produce and the Oak was suggested and being close enough for a quick escape should any trouble flare up.
There is also talk of PA474 Lancaster doing a flypast to remind him of what he missed a few years ago!
Anybody know if the Lanc would have to pay a 'Go Around' fee or would the council do that FOC ?
You are right. I was in the 'local' at lunchtime having an orange juice (as I was flying this afternoon) and a couple of guys were discussing security arrangements. Apparently the Pope has asked to sample local local produce and the Oak was suggested and being close enough for a quick escape should any trouble flare up.
There is also talk of PA474 Lancaster doing a flypast to remind him of what he missed a few years ago!
Anybody know if the Lanc would have to pay a 'Go Around' fee or would the council do that FOC ?
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I have heard that everything is still on track with the Swiss, however they are carrying out the required due diligence, hence the delay in news.
Possibly going to be an announcement of some kind on news in a bit !! central !
It's clearly going to be a long slog......
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Call100,
You are right. I was in the 'local' at lunchtime having an orange juice (as I was flying this afternoon) and a couple of guys were discussing security arrangements. Apparently the Pope has asked to sample local local produce and the Oak was suggested and being close enough for a quick escape should any trouble flare up.
There is also talk of PA474 Lancaster doing a flypast to remind him of what he missed a few years ago! Anybody know if the Lanc would have to pay a 'Go Around' fee or would the council do that FOC ?
You are right. I was in the 'local' at lunchtime having an orange juice (as I was flying this afternoon) and a couple of guys were discussing security arrangements. Apparently the Pope has asked to sample local local produce and the Oak was suggested and being close enough for a quick escape should any trouble flare up.
There is also talk of PA474 Lancaster doing a flypast to remind him of what he missed a few years ago!
Anybody know if the Lanc would have to pay a 'Go Around' fee or would the council do that FOC ?
As for the decision to waive landing fees etc that would have nothing to do with the Council. If the Airport is still open then, it will be down to whoever is running it.
Doubt a Lancaster flying by would incur a charge anyway.
I don't think the event will happen at an airport ......
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Sorry to Say
Vatican 1 C/s The Pope will be the next visitor at XXXX (airfield without an ICAO code)
CCC have totally messed up here and dont deserve to run an Airport because they cannot
Amen
Vatican 1 C/s The Pope will be the next visitor at XXXX (airfield without an ICAO code)
CCC have totally messed up here and dont deserve to run an Airport because they cannot
Amen
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ATC operation
I wonder what type of service the Swiss want, i/e; the hours and level required? If its so tailor-made, and fine tuned to a paricular reduced service in the interim then, building back up according to further development or a customers requirement would not be so easy, as there isnt such a thing as "off the peg, CAA dispensated ATCO's"! so it may be worth moe long term to keep extra ofset against the loss already prepared for.
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And all the organisations of commercial worth have not moved away.
[quote] This all makes sense now...The Swiss you keep seeing are probably Swiss Guards, here to discuss the Papal visit...
{/quote]Yep... I agree.... And they're probably discussing if an AZ B777, with His Holiness the Pope on board could land in CVT or not...
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Swiss firm look set to take over Coventry Airport
The possible takeover by ADT is reported on the Cov Telecgrap webiste
Coventry Telegraph - News - Coventry News - Swiss firm look set to take over Coventry Airport
I give it a 50:50 chance depending on how flexable the city council is over ground lease.
It is also worth never trusting what is in the paper as they may have got it from someone off pprune!
Coventry Telegraph - News - Coventry News - Swiss firm look set to take over Coventry Airport
I give it a 50:50 chance depending on how flexable the city council is over ground lease.
It is also worth never trusting what is in the paper as they may have got it from someone off pprune!
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Well 30 days DD. Hopefully they won't find any ghosts in the cupboard. ADP usually work with government (CCC) partners to develop airports.
I still think they will go down the Cargo route with GA and BA. Along with developing the property side of it.
Fingers crossed for those sweating at CVT job wise at the moment. Hopefully they can sort something and take on those that lost their jobs before Christmas.
Of course this is all hope, until they actually sign on the dotted line.
Well done to those who got it right....
I still think they will go down the Cargo route with GA and BA. Along with developing the property side of it.
Fingers crossed for those sweating at CVT job wise at the moment. Hopefully they can sort something and take on those that lost their jobs before Christmas.
Of course this is all hope, until they actually sign on the dotted line.
Well done to those who got it right....
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Fingers crossed for all the business's at CVT hope they can hold out a bit longer? Still going to be a time though until a licence etc is sorted. What about ex-employee's ? Will they be offered a chance to go back? At the end of the day it would be nice to think they have a chance to go back, it would make sense when you think of their skills and knowledge, at least they could get things up and running to a good standard.
Here's hoping for those concerned!
Here's hoping for those concerned!