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[Evey_Hammond]

Landing suspended @ LHR due to L@sers

Stupid kids I guess...

[FlyingEagle21]

rutankrd That said the Kenya and few T4 long haul carrier may get 27L as may the QF/EK A388s for operational reasons.

Is there any preference to airlines? I know Delta get a lot of departure runway landings.

[Skipness One Echo]

There is a preference for 27R arrivals (in the said time frame) for operational reasons since the majority of landings at the time are coming off either Lambourne or Bovingdon holds.

Not really, it depends on parking gate more than the initial hold, hence T4 will get the Southern runway as will any A380.

[WHBM]

I presume that when landings are on the northern runway, there is an operational benefit to putting T4 traffic onto the southern one because they don't then have to cross the southern departure runway during taxy in.

Does such crossing taxy traffic have any affect on the departure rate, or can it always be slotted in without impact ? It sometimes seems to have to hold for multiple departures.

[DaveReidUK]

hence T4 will get the Southern runway as will any A380

A380s, over the last few months at least, have used the northern and southern runways for arrivals in about equal measure, about 40:60 (09R:09L) on easterlies and 55:45 (27L:27R) on westerlies.

[Skipness One Echo]

I thought we were discussing the open period of landing aircaft before 7am?

[DaveReidUK]

I thought we were discussing the open period of landing aircraft before 7am?

Er yes, we were, weren't we ?

Though actually it doesn't make much different to the stats, around 55% of A380 landings before 0700 have been on the southern runway over recent months, so only a slight bias towards 27L/09R.

[Gonzo]

WHBM,

The overwhelming majority of the time we will not create artificial gaps to allow for the crossing of the the southern runway.

When it is the departure runway, we cross in the wake turbulence separation gaps, or the similar routeing separation gaps.

When it is the landing runway, and we cannot cross in the non-wake pair gaps, we will generally wait until a wake turbulence separation gap arrives.

However, if a 'natural' gap is not going to arrive for a while, then we might create one.

[PAXboy]

Another fabulously clever idea from politicians ...

Planes may pay for noise over Heathrow - UK Politics - UK - The Independent

It's great how the Tories say that 'the market must be allowed to take it's course' and then want to control the market at every turn.

I appreciate, of course, that they are trying to look at another way to get people to agree to LHR3 - but if this were to work, it not work for long.

[Windsorian]

T5 expansion

Looking though the 25.7.12 press release for BAA's 6 month intrim results to 30.6.12 , I see the expansion of T5 is proposed with a new satellite T5E (page 6 para. 3 or 4) to follow on after the opening of T2 Phase 2 in 2019.

http://www.baa.com/static/BAA_Airpor...ent(final).pdf

Though no mention of the expansion of T5A or a new satellite T5D; the latter would require the re-location of the northern fuel farm and the fire station. It seems that the FT were correcly briefed on BAA's T5 expansion plans when they published an article and diagrams on 17.2.12

http://im.media.ft.com/content/image...26&title=&desc

[Dannyboy39]

Would it be worth now for BAA to force the government's hand on this - its obvious there is division. Go it alone without government support and let them make a planning decision yes or no, even for just political points.

[Heathrow Harry]

at a cost of £££££££££££££££££££££££

really clever to spend that cash and make a point - and if it gets kicked into touch then they have burnt their boats for another 15 years

[davidjohnson6]

If a planning application for R3 were to be submitted without David Cameron's advance blessing, the Department for Communities in Whitehall would likely consider 'calling in' or 'recovering' the application for decision by central Govt rather than the local borough.

The effect is that R3 is hopeless until David Cameron and Justine Greening (or whoever the transport secretary may be in the future) publicly support it

[edi_local]

Not sure if this is going to be of interest to many, but it is LHR related. Today, the last edition of the In-house Heathrow newspaper, Skyport, was distributed.

Having not worked at LHR for very long I can't say I have become all that attached to the publication, but it was certainly a good read when it came out. Perhaps others have more memories of the paper, which is, I believe 36 years old.

Seems like a pretty nice thing to lose, certainly better than most workplace newsletters that are about these days. Good luck to all the staff involved.

[DaveReidUK]

Not sure if this is going to be of interest to many, but it is LHR related. Today, the last edition of the In-house Heathrow newspaper, Skyport, was distributed.

That's a shame. I haven't come across it much in recent years, but in its heyday under Bill Brenard it always used to be a good read.

[Seljuk22]

As of now EK plans to go 5 daily A380 from 10th December.

[adfly]

Aegean

Will no longer transfer the daily LCA to LGW, it will remain at LHR and operate 6 weekly as of 28th Oct. (A320)

The planned 4 weekly ATH flights from LGW will now operate Daily (A321)

LHR-ATH reduced to 11 weekly vs 24 weekly last winter (A320/A321)

Aegean Airlines Further Revises Planned London Operation in W12 | Airline Route – Worldwide Airline Route Updates

[Seljuk22]

CZ plans to introduce A380 and B787 on its LHR-CAN-SYD route
China Southern to run Airbus A380, Boeing 787 on Sydney-London route - Flights | hotels | frequent flyer | business class - Australian Business Traveller

LHR-CAN-SYD: 10575 mi
LHR-BKK-SYD: 10620 mi
LHR-SIN-SYD: 10672 mi
LHR-KUL-SYD: 10681 mi
LHR-DXB-SYD: 10901 mi

[Skipness One Echo]

To clarify, the LHR segment remains on the A330 for the moment.

[greekphotog]

BD775/16

Any info if tomorrow's rotation to Riyadh (BD775) will be operated by A332 via Athens?

Thanks a bunch