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Yep, its been possible for a long time!!! I dont know why the DXB isnt advertised more in the UK, along with BOS, JFK, ORD and LAX, as its possible to book them online ex UK!!!
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FLY LAL which started It's Vilnius route ex-SNN last year have decided to discontinue the route. The current winter sched runs until the 22nd Mar they will cease operations in SNN after that date
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SNN-EIN is listed on the Ryanair website as the FR1156/1157 which is the flight number for the NRN flight which operates TUE/THUR/SAT so it looks like a straight swap of the NRN route
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This is simply because Dusseldorf airport is closed from May 15th - May 27th to allow for work on the runway. Flights are being diverted to Eindhoven for this period and there will be a connecting bus service to Dusseldorf city centre. If you look at the Ryanair booking system you will see that flights are only bookable for those two weeks.
This is simply because Dusseldorf airport is closed from May 15th - May 27th to allow for work on the runway. Flights are being diverted to Eindhoven for this period and there will be a connecting bus service to Dusseldorf city centre. If you look at the Ryanair booking system you will see that flights are only bookable for those two weeks.
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So the exodus begins. Who will be next? The article seems to suggest Delta and Continental might leave. I'd say this summer will be the last for FlyGlobespan and Air Canada, and I don't think the current Aer Lingus frequency will be sustained.
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Let's hope that it isn't the beginning of the consolidation of all transatlantic service to/from Ireland at Dublin. Squeezing more traffic through that bottleneck is the last thing this country needs. My own view is that the 800,000 (transatlantic) passenger market at Shannon will reduce in the near term but that this total will flow through a combination of Irish regional airports once again within a few years.
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This should not turn out to be a Shannon verus Dublin or Cork debate but it was always on the cards that Shannon would loose some T/A services.The focus now is for Shannon to hold onto their key markets like newyork/boston and hopefully create some new markets.Indeed I would see Cork maybe getting a newyork service within a year or 2.But airlines will fly too were they can fill their planes and I think Dublin will create more demand under the open skies market than Shannon.
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There should be no gloating; I have lobbied for a long time for the end of the SNN stopover, but I take no pleasure in seeing SNN (or any airport) lose services.
I think there is and will continue to be a market for flights to/from SNN, but the reality is that if you try and link flights to/from a city of 1m people to those to an airport with a hinterland of about (max) a fifth of that size, clearly it isn't sustainable and it was always expected that flights would be lost.
As for flights consolidating in DUB, it should be borne in mind that more domestic cities - Carrickfinn, Derry, Sligo, Galway, Kerry, ORK and NOC - are accessible from DUB than from SNN; surely it makes sense to build a domestic hub there. In fact, I am somewhat concerned at the trend away from interlining (EI doesn't do this - or does it very reluctantly at SNN) and I would like to see RE and other carriers being directed to do so as part of the PSO route licence; domestic markets should be easily and conveniently accessible. If the govt provides subsidies for these routes, it should be in a position to require interlining. SNN could also benefit from this; once EI flights from DUB to SNN with 330s have stopped, surely RE can step in with a much more frequent and economic service.
I think there is and will continue to be a market for flights to/from SNN, but the reality is that if you try and link flights to/from a city of 1m people to those to an airport with a hinterland of about (max) a fifth of that size, clearly it isn't sustainable and it was always expected that flights would be lost.
As for flights consolidating in DUB, it should be borne in mind that more domestic cities - Carrickfinn, Derry, Sligo, Galway, Kerry, ORK and NOC - are accessible from DUB than from SNN; surely it makes sense to build a domestic hub there. In fact, I am somewhat concerned at the trend away from interlining (EI doesn't do this - or does it very reluctantly at SNN) and I would like to see RE and other carriers being directed to do so as part of the PSO route licence; domestic markets should be easily and conveniently accessible. If the govt provides subsidies for these routes, it should be in a position to require interlining. SNN could also benefit from this; once EI flights from DUB to SNN with 330s have stopped, surely RE can step in with a much more frequent and economic service.
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May I give the last two posters a reality check. Do you really expect RE to give SNN/DUB a third go. On the last attempt they did actually give tickets away and there was still no takers. OK lets say they go in with the intention of making it work, and staying at it for the long haul (oops short). If in a million they did make it work and it began to make some sort of contribution, bet you any money MOL will step out and say 'I'll have a piece of that'. As he has virtually everything else out of SNN so let FR do it, RE have enough on their plate at the moment. It is not convenient enough for the catchment area. It's too far to travel from Limerick, by the time pax got to airport checked in cleared security, the train would have them there. Shannon has really got it itself into a corner what with the bilateral vanishing and the almost total dependency on Ryanair, and the growth of the regionals. Not even the power of SAAs strategic thinking (hmmm) can intervene on this one. DAA wins again!
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The problem is that Clare County Council never made a go of Shannon Town. With an international airport like they have Shannon should be the size of Limerick now if not more, and the railway line should have been diverted through there years ago to bring in pax from Limerick and Galway. But I suppose that would have diminished Ennis or some other local reason.
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Shannon should try their level best to make a Daily New York and Boston work. In a sense AA and US decision to withraw should help EI and CO. Can't see 3 carriers surviving on SNN-JFK.
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Shannon faces another loss; Air Canada is to announce that it is to terminate SNN services from the 9th August. The airline will cease its "triangular" service, although there is no decision as yet as to whether it will operate a year-round service to Dublin.
With the election tomorrow, it's probably not the best timing for FF, particularly as some opposition candidates (such as FG's Madelaine Taylor Quinn) are campaigning on this issue.
With the election tomorrow, it's probably not the best timing for FF, particularly as some opposition candidates (such as FG's Madelaine Taylor Quinn) are campaigning on this issue.
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I would imagine that Delta will be out of SNN soon also. For the first week of June, Delta SNN-ATL loads are between 25 and 40%. SNN-JFK is slightly better, between 35 and 55%. Meanwhile Dublin is between 90 and 103% on these same routes.
If this doesn't improve, I think DL will dump SNN faster than something that is very fast....
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If this doesn't improve, I think DL will dump SNN faster than something that is very fast....
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I suppose the whole idea of the stopover is to stop that whole sort of thing....
With regards Delta- I can see them putting some 757s to Shannon IF they ETOP's certified etc
I suppose its not all bad- Omni have made Shannon a base for their military flights. Quite a number of them passing through daily. ATA and NAO holding steady also.
With regards Delta- I can see them putting some 757s to Shannon IF they ETOP's certified etc
I suppose its not all bad- Omni have made Shannon a base for their military flights. Quite a number of them passing through daily. ATA and NAO holding steady also.
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Delta will not be pulling out of SNN. The winter schedule should be available in early June. My feeling is a direct JFK service will continue from SNN however, ATL will be DUB only for the winter before returning to SNN for Summer 2008.