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DL197 to Atlanta still bookable oddly enough though I too have heard it's being axed.
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DL no longer to ATL
From UK Airport News
Delta Air Lines has axed its summer service between Edinburgh Airport and Atlanta, which was set to start in May, due to the cost of fuel. The airline will continue its Edinburgh to New York JFK flights.
A Delta spokeswoman said: ‘As a result of the increase in fuel prices over the last year, Delta is aggressively working to ensure that routes are operating as fuel-efficiently as possible. Scotland remains an important market in Delta’s effort to boost international service, including plans to grow international capacity by double digits in 2008.’
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Delta Air Lines has axed its summer service between Edinburgh Airport and Atlanta, which was set to start in May, due to the cost of fuel. The airline will continue its Edinburgh to New York JFK flights.
A Delta spokeswoman said: ‘As a result of the increase in fuel prices over the last year, Delta is aggressively working to ensure that routes are operating as fuel-efficiently as possible. Scotland remains an important market in Delta’s effort to boost international service, including plans to grow international capacity by double digits in 2008.’
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Germany
Ryanair: Hahn, Weeze, Bremen, Berlin SXF
Germanwings: Cologne/bonn (with some connections to other German airports)
Lufthansa: Frankfurt (with connections to other German airports)
Easyjet: Dortmund, Munich
Germanwings: Cologne/bonn (with some connections to other German airports)
Lufthansa: Frankfurt (with connections to other German airports)
Easyjet: Dortmund, Munich
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A Delta spokeswoman said: ‘As a result of the increase in fuel prices over the last year, Delta is aggressively working to ensure that routes are operating as fuel-efficiently as possible. Scotland remains an important market in Delta’s effort to boost international service, including plans to grow international capacity by double digits in 2008.’
Even with lower fuel costs, does the 757 have the necessary payload/range performance and cost base to fly such a long route economically?
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There's reasonable demand all year round for an ATL service from EDI but probably not enough to make a profit using a 767-300.
One of the problems with last year's service was the late departure time from EDI which resulted in very late arrival times for those using connections beyond ATL.
I suspect that the timings were constrained by the availability of suitable stands and other facilities at EDI and I also suspect that this issue is constraining other long-haul expansion from EDI. Would anyone "in the know" be able to comment?
One of the problems with last year's service was the late departure time from EDI which resulted in very late arrival times for those using connections beyond ATL.
I suspect that the timings were constrained by the availability of suitable stands and other facilities at EDI and I also suspect that this issue is constraining other long-haul expansion from EDI. Would anyone "in the know" be able to comment?
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As a very frequent user (>100k airmiles) of the DL 97/96 to ATL the timing of the flight was one of its distinct benefits, especially when travelling for work.
Remember that it's very few people who travel for their work who actually get to travel Business class, so most of us have to slum it in cattle class. It's a long enough day when you have to fly to the US and frankly the last thing you want is to have to get up at or before the crack of dawn to check in for a flight that won't leave for another two or three hours after you have to show up for it. Couple that with the same inane bloody questions you get asked in the check-in queue, at the desk then again as you board the flight and it can be a disheartening experience before you even take off.
If you can check in at a reasonable hour, even if the check-in to take-off time and questioning is the same, the whole experience doesn't seem so bad. At the other end, the ATL experience is just so much better than anything you experience in the UK. Compared to ATL any of the London airports are seriously disorganised and appear very shabby. Of all the times that I've passed through ATL I have never taken more than 30 minutes to disembark, clear immigration, customs re-check my bags and then clear security again [my one bugbear - that you fly across the atlantic, but have to go through security again]. Once in ATL you've a great choice of connections (unsurprisingly) and there are frequent services to the majority of north & south american destinations.
Where the connection wasn't so good, was for the likes of US / Canadian west coast destinations like Seattle or Vancouver or if you wanted to head to Hawaii or further west (or effectively east). Some of these connections had a fairly long connection time or you were looking at an overnight stay. Then again, a lot of these destinations were probably better reached via an overcrowded inefficeint airport in the south eastern corner of the UK or via AMS.
Personally, I was extremely disappointed when DL withdrew the service and I'm having to rely on the CO service through EWR just now for work, which I'd hoped until recently would be a stop gap until DL brought in the 196/197 service to ATL for the summer. But sadly this is not to be, so we'll just have to keep using CO as BA weren't up to the mark when we tried them last month, a fourteen hour journey became a 36 hour marathon, so it's back to IAH via EWR on CO again this month.
Maybe the recent Tartan Week promotions might bring in more tourists, but the best thing that would make the routes work year round would be advertising & promotion this side of the Atlantic, especially when it's 2 USD to 1 GBP.
I don't see much from CO on the EDI route, but there's naff all on the JFK-EDI route from DL. There's supposed to be a flash advert on the Scotsman's website, but any time I've used the website, I haven't seen it which doesn't help. Hopefully there'll be more promotion for both routes as we could really do with proper competition to the US from Edinburgh.
One of the problems with last year's service was the late departure time from EDI which resulted in very late arrival times for those using connections beyond ATL.
Remember that it's very few people who travel for their work who actually get to travel Business class, so most of us have to slum it in cattle class. It's a long enough day when you have to fly to the US and frankly the last thing you want is to have to get up at or before the crack of dawn to check in for a flight that won't leave for another two or three hours after you have to show up for it. Couple that with the same inane bloody questions you get asked in the check-in queue, at the desk then again as you board the flight and it can be a disheartening experience before you even take off.
If you can check in at a reasonable hour, even if the check-in to take-off time and questioning is the same, the whole experience doesn't seem so bad. At the other end, the ATL experience is just so much better than anything you experience in the UK. Compared to ATL any of the London airports are seriously disorganised and appear very shabby. Of all the times that I've passed through ATL I have never taken more than 30 minutes to disembark, clear immigration, customs re-check my bags and then clear security again [my one bugbear - that you fly across the atlantic, but have to go through security again]. Once in ATL you've a great choice of connections (unsurprisingly) and there are frequent services to the majority of north & south american destinations.
Where the connection wasn't so good, was for the likes of US / Canadian west coast destinations like Seattle or Vancouver or if you wanted to head to Hawaii or further west (or effectively east). Some of these connections had a fairly long connection time or you were looking at an overnight stay. Then again, a lot of these destinations were probably better reached via an overcrowded inefficeint airport in the south eastern corner of the UK or via AMS.
Personally, I was extremely disappointed when DL withdrew the service and I'm having to rely on the CO service through EWR just now for work, which I'd hoped until recently would be a stop gap until DL brought in the 196/197 service to ATL for the summer. But sadly this is not to be, so we'll just have to keep using CO as BA weren't up to the mark when we tried them last month, a fourteen hour journey became a 36 hour marathon, so it's back to IAH via EWR on CO again this month.
Maybe the recent Tartan Week promotions might bring in more tourists, but the best thing that would make the routes work year round would be advertising & promotion this side of the Atlantic, especially when it's 2 USD to 1 GBP.
I don't see much from CO on the EDI route, but there's naff all on the JFK-EDI route from DL. There's supposed to be a flash advert on the Scotsman's website, but any time I've used the website, I haven't seen it which doesn't help. Hopefully there'll be more promotion for both routes as we could really do with proper competition to the US from Edinburgh.
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Agree with Donkey, I have seen no advertising by Delta in the Edinburgh area, how do they expect to get the passenger numbers if very few people know about the route? Going back to the Atlanta launch, there was some advertising on billboards and Taxi's but even then it did not last for long.
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There have been quite a few print, taxi and online ads for Delta in recent weeks although not as much as you would expect given that the new route isn't common knowledge.
Then again, CO does next to no advertising here and the route does very nicely.
Then again, CO does next to no advertising here and the route does very nicely.
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CO did a lot of advertising when the route was first launched though, and you'll still see ads for them dotted around (Easter Road is one example that springs to mind). However, they are so well established now that they don't need to advertise as much. Certainly not as much as DL should be doing now considering it's a new service which is going up against a well established service to the same area!
CO do a fair amount of promotion of the EWR-EDI route on the other side of the pond, there's always quite a few posters featuring EDI whenever you apss through EWR, and you even get the odd CO advert featuring EDI as well as their US skiing destinations down in Texas showing connections from IAH. They usually have a fair amount of promotion for new routes and summer only routes as well.
Having been through JFK last month, nothing from DL on the EDI service. OK, the service isn't in place just now, but you'd have thought that there'd be some early promotion in place.......
Having been through JFK last month, nothing from DL on the EDI service. OK, the service isn't in place just now, but you'd have thought that there'd be some early promotion in place.......
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Anyone got anymore information as to why and when it will re-open?
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14:40BA1446HEATHROW DIVERTED 14:45EI254DUBLIN DIVERTED 15:00GSM448PALMA DIVERTED 15:10AF5161LONDON CITY DIVERTED 15:10BA8954STORNOWAY VIA INVERNESS DIVERTED 15:15GSM402BARCELONA EXPECTED 1513 15:15GSM472MALAGA EXPECTED 1523 15:15GSM616BARCELONA EXPECTED 1513 15:20BA8716LONDON CITY EXPECTED 1505 15:20EZY6906GENEVA DIVERTED 15:25BD608ZURICH DIVERTED 15:30GSM506FARO DIVERTED 15:35BD058HEATHROW EXPECTED 1600 15:40EZY711GATWICK EXPECTED 1620 15:45KL1285AMSTERDAM EXPECTED 1545 15:55EZY487BELFAST INTL CANCELLED 15:55RE465CORK DIVERTED
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I take it that these holes then will need a considerable time to fill in and that the runway will be closed for some time? Are we to expect cancellations for the remainder of the day?
They can't have planned the runway works very well. Another quality example of BAA uselessness!
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They can't have planned the runway works very well. Another quality example of BAA uselessness!
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