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[GoEDI]

ATL was doing well in the summer, so I'd say they were making money on one hub, the whole reason it was dropped was due to it's poor performance in the winter. Like I said, ever since it had been dropped DL has been considering bringing it back summer only, and now it's on the smaller B752 I can see this doing well although given how much cargo the B763 was carrying, the drop in cargo capacity might hurt a bit. JFK will carry much more O&D traffic obviously but is going to face an uphill struggle with CO 2x daily on EWR, however in the summer I think these routes will do fine, as long as DL market them better than they did last time!
I got the figure from here- http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=101
Couldn't comment on it's accuracy, but the fact that NW and DL have routes longer than CO on their PW B752s suggests it could be true. These are some of the longest B752 routes:

NW DTW-FRA 3616nm
DL CVG-AMS 3599nm
DL ATL-EDI 3484nm
CO EWR-TXL 3458nm

As you can see, the airlines with the PW powered variants seem to be pushing them furthur, and CO are very reluctant to go any furthur than TXL as that already takes pretty big payload restrictions Westbound.
DL's are the recently acquired TWA aircraft so you could be right there, not sure about NW though.

Running days 135 DL197 1050-1440

It's only June it operates on days 1,3,5, from July onwards it's daily.

[Skipness One Echo]

Interesting....worth remembering that the services quoted as being within the range of the 757 are dependent on payload and some of the above routes have more than a few rows blocked off raising the seat price accordingly. I wish them every success, will be good to see them on the gates next summer.

[crackling jet]

Has ryanair announced an Edinburgh- Bristol service as rumour has it down here at Bristol, but no one seems to have had it confirmed.

[GoEDI]

I can't comment for DL or NW but I know that in the summer CO were blocking off 25 seats on TXL-EWR, I've never seen the route carrying any cargo Westbound either obviously due to payload restrictions.
I wouldn't be surprised to see payload restrictions on EDI-ATL, even if DL's B752s do have a longer range, they also have more seats compared to CO (184 compared to 175), so the difference in range is likely to be negligible I'd of thought.

[tristar500]

Ryanair expansion at EDI

I see that FR are making EDI a base, from MAR08 with up to 7 different routes. This will surely have an impact on the likes of GSM, Jet2 and even easyjet.

I think GSM will see quite a few of their pax migrate to Ryanair, to see how they do things (European routes), especially after the horrendous summer 07 nightmare. Who could blame them...

Jet2 should watchout too, although not such a big player at EDI, MAN will soon be 'awash' with oragne tailed Airbus aircraft once the GB deal goes through. Jet2 at both MAN and LBA could suffer. All change.

Maybe a merger between GSM/Jet2 could stave off any immediate trouble and allow them to focus on key routes from their key airports. The fleets are common and make both short-medium-long haul flts possible.

[Say again s l o w l y]

I heard a rumour this was happening a few weeks ago. Could be interesting times at Edinburgh.

[sitigeltfel]

Anyone know what the schedule / frequency on the Marseille route will be, and will they still be keeping the summer Prestwick - Marseille route running?

[XSBaggage]

They are not actually making EDI a base, all the routes flown from there are to bases using aircraft based at the destination station.

PIK-MRS seems to be available next summer.

XSB

[Scottish Flyer]

Ryanair do not appear to have made any cuts in PIK flights for next summer - the EDI flights are additional. Frequency on the new EDI flights is only 2 or 3 a week. The Marseille service is twice weekly but on different days from the PIK flights which continue 3 times a week as last summer.

[dwlpl]

Re Ryanair

With the wonders of satellite TV I watched the Midlands local news.

They are saying that the deal announced today took just 10 days to complete with the based BHX aircraft originally tagged for a Scottish airport (EDI?).

[goldeneye]

Ryanair dont base an aircraft at EDI, the new route launched are flown by based aircraft from the orginating city ie Alicante, Bremen, Hahn etc.

I suspect if it is a scottish a/c it will be from PIK.

[GoEDI]

Indeed not, but a base announcement has been expected on top of the already announced routes, and it seems that this was it, but it's gone to BHX at the last minute...

[Richard Taylor]

Not the BAA holding back growth in Scotland, quelle surprise......

[W4LLACE]

can any one tell me any details of the EDI expansion - extra runway etc?

Will it have the runway capacity for larger aircraft?

[GoEDI]

Starter strips and high speed turnoffs with provisions for a new runway, but that's all furthur down the line. The only runway work happening imminently is the re-surfacing of 06/24.

Also, I believe the FR base could now be a done deal with an announcement expected early next month.

[nickmo]

Hi W -

You may have seen the comment from the Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce in the Scotsman a couple of weeks ago about this -

http://news.scotsman.com/edinburghai...ust.3643365.jp

Business wants it, apparently 80% of residents want it - but the Council can't decide how anyone will get to it.....

The Master Document regarding the development of Edinburgh states:

'...Second runway - The Master Plan re-states BAA Edinburgh’s commitment to build a second runway at Edinburgh Airport, should it be required. The document gives an indication of where an additional runway, which the Government has predicted will be needed, would be built and the additional land take required for such a project. BAA Edinburgh believes that an additional runway will not be required before 2030. However, it will be for future Master Plans to determine if and when a second runway will be built....'

and the comment '..should it be required...' is the relevant bit in there....The airport is expanding but this is for taxiways and service hangar space initially. The requirement for more post and freight handling is as important to the expansion as servicing passengers, but it looks like it will be a while, until more routes are established and demand increases - eg. Ryanair etc etc and the hint that Emirates has expressed interest.

If you want a list of current who flies from Edinburgh (and any other UK airport for that matter) the info at Flightmapping.com is about as easy to access as anything else: http://www.flightmapping.com/UK/Edinburgh/

The Royal Highland Society is looking to relocate to the opposite side of the A8 as part of this - the Museum of Rural Life has already left the site, and other businesses on the Council owned land are looking for new locations to cotinue operating.

The biggest issue still remains access - road / rail / tram, so until that is resolved there seems little that will happen until the Eastfield Road 'way in' for road traffic - which is a joke to be honest - is sorted. The hassle now for drop off / pick up which seems designed by an Operator determined to prevent use of the Airport.... rant beginning...

Link for BAA Edinburgh http://www.edinburghairport.com/ - go to the 'About BAA Edinburgh' page and see the 'expansion' link on left for the proposed site layout plans, Master Plan etc, if interested.

In short it is still with the Council.

[Skipness One Echo]

Ah SECOND runway at Edinburgh? A third at HEATHROW ? SHRIEK. Well up until kind of recently Edinburgh had three, as did Heathrow. What chance do we have if people can't count correctly beyond......er one really. Anyhoo, what they really mean is a brand new shiny runway. Next time your on the new pier at Edinburgh, the second runway is the big black thing between you and what was RAF Turnhouse. Who said pedantic? I can hear you...........

[W4LLACE]

Ok smart ****!! hee hee

i knew that - but your right i meant a shiny new one

[Donkey497]

Next time your on the new pier at Edinburgh, the second runway is the big black thing between you and what was RAF Turnhouse.

Ah, you mean BAA's new parking lot for all that shiny metal. I wouldn't really recommend trying to land on it any more, probably lots of stuff with F-Codes sitting there until tomorrow night.........

[ryanair1]

Edinburgh base routes on website

although not yet bookable, the routes on EDI's new base are visible.

EDI to ALC, SXF, BLL, BOH, BTS, BRE, DUB, NRN, HHN, WRO, KRK, NYO, LCJ, SNN, AGP, POZ, MRS, PMI and PSA

Should be available and announced when new site goes formally live Tuesday morning