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RE: CAT III in Cork, having flown CAT II into Cork yes there are many Rad alt fluctuations on final.
But I remember it being mentioned that one of the runways in Zurich had the same problem, I'm not too sure to what degree, but apparently a metal gantry was exteded from the threshold to give a level surface for proper Rad alt readings.
Possible soloution in ORK, maybe? But that dosen't solve the wind factor.
IR
But I remember it being mentioned that one of the runways in Zurich had the same problem, I'm not too sure to what degree, but apparently a metal gantry was exteded from the threshold to give a level surface for proper Rad alt readings.
Possible soloution in ORK, maybe? But that dosen't solve the wind factor.
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i see what you mean,i mentioned similar to this before why it wont happen,can ya imagine having pylons erected on the approach to the 17 to hold this gantry?? on approach you have a huge hill, a few gaa pitches and houses!!
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Scheduled Passenger Figures from Cork to/from UK Airports for September
Scheduled Passenger Figures from Cork to/from UK Airports for September
Belfast City 3398
Birmingham 11107
Bristol 1417
Cardiff 2646
Durham Tees Valley 2160
Edinburgh 4327
Gatwick 13957
Glasgow 1171
Heathrow 39604
Leeds Bradford 699
Liverpool 8479
Manchester 10180
Nottingham East Midlands 3759
Southampton 1303
Stansted 38242
Anyone else think that Leeds/Bradford has been looking worryingly light?
Belfast City 3398
Birmingham 11107
Bristol 1417
Cardiff 2646
Durham Tees Valley 2160
Edinburgh 4327
Gatwick 13957
Glasgow 1171
Heathrow 39604
Leeds Bradford 699
Liverpool 8479
Manchester 10180
Nottingham East Midlands 3759
Southampton 1303
Stansted 38242
Anyone else think that Leeds/Bradford has been looking worryingly light?
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LBA needs a low cost airline on the ORK route, you have to remember that bmi only have a once daily ERJ135 flight to ORK, but 699, still doesn't sound particuarly brilliant, bmi charge high fares on the ORK route.
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LBA needs a low cost airline on the ORK route, you have to remember that bmi only have a once daily ERJ135 flight to ORK, but 699, still doesn't sound particuarly brilliant, bmi charge high fares on the ORK route.
Compare this to the £30 return fares available from neighbouring MAN and LPL and you begin to see why passenger numbers are light.
My hope is that Jet2's NCL-ORK proves successful and prompts LS to launch a similar low-cost service from LBA. I would be one customer for such a service (and save me travelling to MAN to get to Cork at a reasonable price!)
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Re the xwind situation: arrived ORK Thurs AM & departed Sat PM, both really windy but straight down 17, so for both of those movements the runway was just right!
I really don't mind a quick hop & a jump from the a/c to the building even in the wind & rain but what I REALLY object to is having to stand in these conditions waiting for a bus to Cork City. In fact, this part of the infrastructure is really broken. There appear to be NO en-route bus services that drop by the airport, you have to take the local type bus into the City, which is a real pain, wastes time and was absolutely HEAVING and not just with jazz fans, but ordinary folk too.
I see jetties are being put in place on the new building, no doubt MOL will refuse to use them like he does everywhere else.
The dep. lounge was crammed full Sat night, the new building won't open a day too soon. I looked at the nice architect's model of it - there doesn't appear to be any provision for bus shelters landside. Perhaps everyone in EI-land prefers a hire car to the bus, pity 'cos the services to West Cork are pretty good (once you get to the City).
And Finally...
The free Wi-Fi service in the dep. lounge has disappeared to be replaced by a BT offering. This seems to charge 10 euros a go, FAR too much, needless to say we didn't use it. Last time there were quite a few people using laptops, we actually booked some more flights while we waited, this time not a single person was on-line.
And yes, I'll put all these commnts in a letter to the folk running ORK.
Apart from that, great!
Cheers,
The Odd One
I really don't mind a quick hop & a jump from the a/c to the building even in the wind & rain but what I REALLY object to is having to stand in these conditions waiting for a bus to Cork City. In fact, this part of the infrastructure is really broken. There appear to be NO en-route bus services that drop by the airport, you have to take the local type bus into the City, which is a real pain, wastes time and was absolutely HEAVING and not just with jazz fans, but ordinary folk too.
I see jetties are being put in place on the new building, no doubt MOL will refuse to use them like he does everywhere else.
The dep. lounge was crammed full Sat night, the new building won't open a day too soon. I looked at the nice architect's model of it - there doesn't appear to be any provision for bus shelters landside. Perhaps everyone in EI-land prefers a hire car to the bus, pity 'cos the services to West Cork are pretty good (once you get to the City).
And Finally...
The free Wi-Fi service in the dep. lounge has disappeared to be replaced by a BT offering. This seems to charge 10 euros a go, FAR too much, needless to say we didn't use it. Last time there were quite a few people using laptops, we actually booked some more flights while we waited, this time not a single person was on-line.
And yes, I'll put all these commnts in a letter to the folk running ORK.
Apart from that, great!
Cheers,
The Odd One
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sadly free internet seems to have lasted five minutes pretty much everywhere - you have to pay at YOW too. Is it still free at LHR?
sadly free internet seems to have lasted five minutes pretty much everywhere - you have to pay at YOW too. Is it still free at LHR?
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Heard that the new terminal will have the same number of check-in desks as is currently available in the present terminal. If true (and that is a big if), that would strike me as odd to say the least. A visit over any given weekend would highlight that there is an acute shortage of check-in desks.
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I know Cork has its problems, geographically speaking, however this is not an excuse not to lengthen the runway, look what was done at sea-tac, a whole valley was filled!
However I also believe that the public transport links are weak. This has lead me to ponder a light rail system connecting the airport, to the city, stopping at the black ash p&r, bus station, and kent railway station. Cork then becomes Irelands most integrated transport city. It would be realitively inexpensive, and direct, as most of the route was a railway track at one stage in the past. The run through the city is also direct.
Any one have an opinion, good bad, or indifferent on this service?
However I also believe that the public transport links are weak. This has lead me to ponder a light rail system connecting the airport, to the city, stopping at the black ash p&r, bus station, and kent railway station. Cork then becomes Irelands most integrated transport city. It would be realitively inexpensive, and direct, as most of the route was a railway track at one stage in the past. The run through the city is also direct.
Any one have an opinion, good bad, or indifferent on this service?
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As I type Irish Transport Minister Cullen is proclaiming a new dawn in transport infrastructure with more new roads and rail expansion being announced today. Somehow, though, it is hard to ever see any kind of rail to and from Cork Airport. Let us get the airport and airfield infrastructure right first: more ramp, CATIII, some more runway etc.
That is the way to do it, The Odd One. Keep sending in remarks on your experiences at Cork Airport to the managers but may I suggest that you go one step further and send a note of your comments to some of the Cork TDs (MPs). On the government side there is Noel O'Flynn, TD - he likes to think that he is in tune with the goings on at Cork Airport. There is also Micheal Martin, TD who is the present minister for Enterprise. Both may be contacted at Dail Eireann, Leinster House, Dublin 2.
Going political usually gets more attention! Stops heads from being buried in the sand for too long!
There is good news today. The inaugural Aer Lingus flight from Cork to Warsaw took place today. The return flight to Cork landed just a short time ago. The flight will operate three times weekly on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. The new destination should, hopefully, do very well.
That is the way to do it, The Odd One. Keep sending in remarks on your experiences at Cork Airport to the managers but may I suggest that you go one step further and send a note of your comments to some of the Cork TDs (MPs). On the government side there is Noel O'Flynn, TD - he likes to think that he is in tune with the goings on at Cork Airport. There is also Micheal Martin, TD who is the present minister for Enterprise. Both may be contacted at Dail Eireann, Leinster House, Dublin 2.
Going political usually gets more attention! Stops heads from being buried in the sand for too long!
There is good news today. The inaugural Aer Lingus flight from Cork to Warsaw took place today. The return flight to Cork landed just a short time ago. The flight will operate three times weekly on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. The new destination should, hopefully, do very well.
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The airport wouldn't in itself have enough traffic to warrant light rail, but if it could be integrated into a line to somewhere like Carrigaline, it might have more viability.
Before that though, they need to get the bus situation in order and prove there is a demand for quality public transport to the airport.It's idiotic the way the bus just goes to Parnell Place bus station. For Cork residents, that's next to useless. For visitors it's hardly bringing them anywhere conveient. How many hotels are within 5 minutes walk? The Clarion? The Imperial? Also, it should go to the train station.
Much more important would be the extension of bus lines like the 6 (from Grange) or the 3/9 from Ballyphehane to make them practical for people who work at the airport or want to travel through it. The chances of me buying a bus ticket into town (from Douglas) and them buying another one to get out to the airport are minimal (I'd spend an hour traveling). Extend the 6 by the 2km or so that it needs to reach the airport, and I would definitely be using it.
Before that though, they need to get the bus situation in order and prove there is a demand for quality public transport to the airport.It's idiotic the way the bus just goes to Parnell Place bus station. For Cork residents, that's next to useless. For visitors it's hardly bringing them anywhere conveient. How many hotels are within 5 minutes walk? The Clarion? The Imperial? Also, it should go to the train station.
Much more important would be the extension of bus lines like the 6 (from Grange) or the 3/9 from Ballyphehane to make them practical for people who work at the airport or want to travel through it. The chances of me buying a bus ticket into town (from Douglas) and them buying another one to get out to the airport are minimal (I'd spend an hour traveling). Extend the 6 by the 2km or so that it needs to reach the airport, and I would definitely be using it.
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The Light Rail System, would offer Cork an Integrated transport system, and would not just serve the Airport. It would also connect the Black Ash Park and Ride,future P&Rs and the Bus and Train Systems. Combined with Bus Lanes and an improved City Transport Network it could offer Cork a congestion free future.
Any Car which enters within the bounds of the City Center would have to pay a €10 fee per day, alternivively they could park their car at one of the P&Rs and connect to the system for say €5 a day and have unlimited suburban public transport access.
By the way does any-one know why the Aer Lingus service to WAW had an aircraft change at the last moment? All the passengers (almost full load,if not totally full) could be seen streaming from one A320 to the other, but I don't believe the crews also swapped?
Also noted that the Malev Flight was at least 90% full and the Prague 735 also had very healthy loads.
Does any one know what the payload restrictions might be for an A330/767 on T/A routed out of Cork. It is my belief that 757s would be penalty free from Cork, is this true?
Cheers BD.
Any Car which enters within the bounds of the City Center would have to pay a €10 fee per day, alternivively they could park their car at one of the P&Rs and connect to the system for say €5 a day and have unlimited suburban public transport access.
By the way does any-one know why the Aer Lingus service to WAW had an aircraft change at the last moment? All the passengers (almost full load,if not totally full) could be seen streaming from one A320 to the other, but I don't believe the crews also swapped?
Also noted that the Malev Flight was at least 90% full and the Prague 735 also had very healthy loads.
Does any one know what the payload restrictions might be for an A330/767 on T/A routed out of Cork. It is my belief that 757s would be penalty free from Cork, is this true?
Cheers BD.
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i had a family member and her friends bumped off their flight to cork from budapest(overbooked) last week,yet they were the first to check in,not last.they got bumped off because they had the cheapest tickets(travel agent), they then had to fly to dublin and overnight there,what a joke.malev were unwilling to help and pretended not to know anything.
A 757 wouldnt be affected out of cork, a 767 would have only a little penalty.
and runway extension.... forget it,i mentioned why a few weeks ago.
regards,
A 757 wouldnt be affected out of cork, a 767 would have only a little penalty.
and runway extension.... forget it,i mentioned why a few weeks ago.
regards,
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LRT would have to go along Centre Park Road to Mahon and Western Road to UCC/CIT/CUH etc. Airport would be way down the list.
As for the hotels - if they care they would set up their own shuttle. If you are staying in a downtown hotel in Toronto you get on a hotel shuttle bus at Pearson.
LRT would have to go along Centre Park Road to Mahon and Western Road to UCC/CIT/CUH etc. Airport would be way down the list.
As for the hotels - if they care they would set up their own shuttle. If you are staying in a downtown hotel in Toronto you get on a hotel shuttle bus at Pearson.
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well done aer arann
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I was on the re flight into cork two nights ago from Birmingham, when we arrived it was really really lashing out of the heavens, and low and behold we parked up down at the stand adjacent to the tnt a/c. iwas up the front of the a/c and could hear the captain giving out about it to the f/o. we all waited for a bit while he said he was on to the atc crowd to try to move closer to the terminal. and after a bit of talking we closed up the a/c and taxied closer to the gate. well done the pilot for his persistance but bloody hell what are the authorities at the airport thinking. we all know that the stands outside the terminal are reserved for aer lingus.. which peeves me but thats another story altogether but surley a very good customer such as re should get better treatment than that. i was figuring the a/c was parking up for the night which may explian why it was sent to the remote posn in the first place but from what i could gather they went to dublin after that. is it asking a lot to position a turn around a/c as close to the building as possible????? if it wernt for the pilot we would have all had the flu!!! well done whom ever you are..
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I was on the re flight into cork two nights ago from Birmingham, when we arrived it was really really lashing out of the heavens, and low and behold we parked up down at the stand adjacent to the tnt a/c. iwas up the front of the a/c and could hear the captain giving out about it to the f/o. we all waited for a bit while he said he was on to the atc crowd to try to move closer to the terminal. and after a bit of talking we closed up the a/c and taxied closer to the gate. well done the pilot for his persistance but bloody hell what are the authorities at the airport thinking. we all know that the stands outside the terminal are reserved for aer lingus.. which peeves me but thats another story altogether but surley a very good customer such as re should get better treatment than that. i was figuring the a/c was parking up for the night which may explian why it was sent to the remote posn in the first place but from what i could gather they went to dublin after that. is it asking a lot to position a turn around a/c as close to the building as possible????? if it wernt for the pilot we would have all had the flu!!! well done whom ever you are..
regs ej