Jobs in Africa (2011 onwards) part 3.
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From: Canada
To be honest, I quite enjoy reading what people have.
They spend thousands of dollars, pounds, euros or whatever on A320 ratings and the like, and then come to Africa looking for single piston jobs.
Plus I can see what I am up against
They spend thousands of dollars, pounds, euros or whatever on A320 ratings and the like, and then come to Africa looking for single piston jobs.
Plus I can see what I am up against
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From: Madrid
Namibia and other things
Regarding the rating on 210-206 some people say i should get it before flying down there, others say I shouldnt. I know i´m going to need to get checked out with an instructor but will having the rating help me get the job?
Next question: I have 1000TT with 400ME mainly on Baron (SAR operation), I talked to some people that told me to forget Namibia and go to other countrys since they are only hiering expats to fly 210/206, also he said that know the sortage of pilots in this country is not such.
Other told me to go there since there are more ME jobs.. My idea was to get into a ME after flying sometime in the 210 but a friend with more than 1600TT mainly on 210 flying in Namibia told me that even knowing lots of people he was unable to advance to a ME. With my experience, should I try or its just not worth it?
I am interested in all the southern countrys operators that fly Baron, I have a big list but I´m sure I am missing some, any help would be good.
thanks
Next question: I have 1000TT with 400ME mainly on Baron (SAR operation), I talked to some people that told me to forget Namibia and go to other countrys since they are only hiering expats to fly 210/206, also he said that know the sortage of pilots in this country is not such.
Other told me to go there since there are more ME jobs.. My idea was to get into a ME after flying sometime in the 210 but a friend with more than 1600TT mainly on 210 flying in Namibia told me that even knowing lots of people he was unable to advance to a ME. With my experience, should I try or its just not worth it?
I am interested in all the southern countrys operators that fly Baron, I have a big list but I´m sure I am missing some, any help would be good.
thanks
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From: Nowhere nice
Multi turbine is nice - are you willing to do single engine piston? Come to Africa with Kingair etc time and expect to be thrown on a 206.
Log books carry weight there (and I was there) but you start at the bottom. Honestly if the blokes aren't willing to have a beer with you - goodbye. If you think a Kingair/320/737NG will help you out - good luck to you.
I did my time bush in Africa and PNG and that is where you meet the real pilots who didnt pay for ratings, training or uniforms.
If you want to go bush to reinforce your ratings look elsewhere.
Log books carry weight there (and I was there) but you start at the bottom. Honestly if the blokes aren't willing to have a beer with you - goodbye. If you think a Kingair/320/737NG will help you out - good luck to you.
I did my time bush in Africa and PNG and that is where you meet the real pilots who didnt pay for ratings, training or uniforms.
If you want to go bush to reinforce your ratings look elsewhere.
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From: Madrid
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Everyone here wants to start at the bottom and expect to go up in plane types and imporve experience on our careers, sooner or later. I dont think there is anybody here that wants to get a job in 206 and spend the rest of his life flying that type
Just going to were there are jobs now
Just going to were there are jobs now
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From: Madrid
Arriving in Zambia Lusaka 16th of January
Hi to everyone I am arriving in Zambia, Lusaka the 16th of this month (in 4 days) to stay there for some time and try to get a flight job.
Any information or local pilots that want to meet up or help? LOL
1000TT, 400ME
I hope to meet lots of nice people have a good experience and make the job!! See you soon
Any information or local pilots that want to meet up or help? LOL
1000TT, 400ME
I hope to meet lots of nice people have a good experience and make the job!! See you soon
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From: dubai
LOW TIME PILOT JOBS IN AFRICA
Hello! I hold an ICAQ CPL WITH C-310 MULTI AND DORNIER 228 TYPE RATED looking for a job as a first officer in any one of the african country...would be of great help if anyone would be able to help me out with any contacts to a particular organization or places where there would opportunities for me...i wont sponsoring for a frsh type rating...thanx
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From: In a perambulator.
I think what the ever helpful lilflyboy262...2 is trying to tell you is that there aren't really enough jobs to go around for those down here, some of whom might have experience on C310,Qs or Rs and the Do228.
The Dornier 228 is a curious aircraft to have on one's licence. It's a great machine to operate especially in the jungle or the desert. On balance though, it's perhaps not as useful as a B200 would be as a first turbine. You'd not be the first one knocking on the Africa door with a shiny licence and a Do228 rating. Is some training organisation somewhere selling type ratings on the Do228 as an initial turbine conversion? There're only around 130 or so world wide and the Garrett engine is not a common one.
The Dornier 228 is a curious aircraft to have on one's licence. It's a great machine to operate especially in the jungle or the desert. On balance though, it's perhaps not as useful as a B200 would be as a first turbine. You'd not be the first one knocking on the Africa door with a shiny licence and a Do228 rating. Is some training organisation somewhere selling type ratings on the Do228 as an initial turbine conversion? There're only around 130 or so world wide and the Garrett engine is not a common one.
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From: florida
need help
hey guys, i have a few questions for people who flew in tanzania/botswana. I have 270 TT with instrument and multi CPL. I am willing to go there and look for a job, but can i realistically get one? with 270TT? Is it worth a try?
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From: through the door, left
hey guys, i have a few questions for people who flew in tanzania/botswana. I have 270 TT with instrument and multi CPL. I am willing to go there and look for a job, but can i realistically get one? with 270TT? Is it worth a try?
we don't know whether you would be able to get a job in Africa with 270TT.
If you would have taken the time and gone through the information that has been written up here on this forum by people like lilflyboy262...2 instead of expecting to be silverspoonfed, you would know the answer to your question.
Can you imagine how frustrating it is, to provide good, valid information year after year and then getting posts like yours, were it is obvious that you have not taken to the trouble of reading the previous 9 pages of this thread?
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From: Motel 6, or the Super 8
I wonder why I even bother.
Lilflyboy - Thank you for all the informative posts. If I ever get out of this prison - I will drink a beer or two in your honor....
Thanks for keeping all us readers informed.
Lilflyboy - Thank you for all the informative posts. If I ever get out of this prison - I will drink a beer or two in your honor....
Thanks for keeping all us readers informed.
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From: constantly crossing the equator
yet ANOTHER low time pilot in africa
Hey guys, call me crazy but I really don't think this is the way to find yourself work in the motherland. I am also a newbie with the cpl/meir etc and when I first got all my paperwork, I thought the solution was to go around looking for people advertising for jobs and drop off the CVs and wait. Oh how mistaken I was...
What you'll find with African charter companies is that if they are actually advertising for a job, they already have people in mind and have no intention of hiring anybody new. The only reason they put the ad up is to fulfill legal requirements for job equality.
Eventually I wised up and began walking up and down the road of HKNW. And I learned more in 3 weeks of walking than I did in 2 months of precision paper dropping. If you want a job, you need facetime with other pilots, CFIs and chief pilots. That's it. you'll find most of the chief pilots in GA have been in it for a long time and went through the same stress you are going through. They are full of tips to try and make friends and find work.
So I hung around the airport for weeks until I made a few friends. Friends led to a couple of chance encounters with company chiefs at the locals and soon enough, I got THAT phone call because somebody had heard from a mutual friend that I was looking for work. I got my check flight without him even looking at my CV or logbook.
Moral of the story? If you are a low hour pilot looking for work in this corner of the earth, make your face and your story known. One day somebody will be willing to give you a shot. Looking for stuff online got me nowhere and I really wish somebody had told ME that when I started off.
What you'll find with African charter companies is that if they are actually advertising for a job, they already have people in mind and have no intention of hiring anybody new. The only reason they put the ad up is to fulfill legal requirements for job equality.
Eventually I wised up and began walking up and down the road of HKNW. And I learned more in 3 weeks of walking than I did in 2 months of precision paper dropping. If you want a job, you need facetime with other pilots, CFIs and chief pilots. That's it. you'll find most of the chief pilots in GA have been in it for a long time and went through the same stress you are going through. They are full of tips to try and make friends and find work.
So I hung around the airport for weeks until I made a few friends. Friends led to a couple of chance encounters with company chiefs at the locals and soon enough, I got THAT phone call because somebody had heard from a mutual friend that I was looking for work. I got my check flight without him even looking at my CV or logbook.
Moral of the story? If you are a low hour pilot looking for work in this corner of the earth, make your face and your story known. One day somebody will be willing to give you a shot. Looking for stuff online got me nowhere and I really wish somebody had told ME that when I started off.