Payday at Arik Air
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Flight Safety
It is no suprise that pilots will get fired for refusing to fly without getting Paid,what is gonna happen soon will beat every body hands down and this because safety is now getting compromised.An Arik flight suffered birdstrike to an engine on Takeoff in Owerri and the Captain continued the flight all the way to lagos on a single engine?what manner of captain is this?I believe such a decision was taken because of money matters.If what I read in the papers were true?then its just a matter of time before something TRAGIC happens.Keep flying on empty stomachs.
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You should know better
It would have been the Captain's call whether to bring the bird (no pun intended) home, or not. Maybe the Captain made a mistake but you have no bases to charge the company with unsafe policies. A pilot foretelling an air tragedy without evidence is irresponsible, or worse. 
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Sorry Zebiak,
You can make excuses all you want, but the reg's are pretty clear. Nearest suitable.
The chairman had standing orders. The next captain to hit a bird would be fired.
I flew for Arik. I had a bird strike. I wrote it up in such a way the chairman would not fire me. How you might ask. The bird hit my engine. Not the other way around. To the chairman, this was acceptable.
I left Arik for a number of reasons, but among them was my strong feeling that safety was being compromised at every turn.
It is just a matter of time before they lose an aircraft.
You can make excuses all you want, but the reg's are pretty clear. Nearest suitable.
The chairman had standing orders. The next captain to hit a bird would be fired.
I flew for Arik. I had a bird strike. I wrote it up in such a way the chairman would not fire me. How you might ask. The bird hit my engine. Not the other way around. To the chairman, this was acceptable.
I left Arik for a number of reasons, but among them was my strong feeling that safety was being compromised at every turn.
It is just a matter of time before they lose an aircraft.
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Who is right or what is right?
'@Zebiak,As a professional that is if you are one,You would realise and know for a fact that Regs and SOP's are written in blood and are there to serve a purpose,flagrant disregard for SOPs have no place in the working area,If its Arik policy to fly birds on a limp across the country thats not my problem as long as my family and friends stay far away from them,There are no personal sentiments when safety is an issue,the world has become a very small and educated environment and it does'nt take being a pilot to figure out that something was wrong with the decision making process of such a commander,for your info, this incident has been posted on various sites on the internet and my comment happens to be a very soft one,when issues like this arise please say it as it is and resist holding brief for clowns who have no regard for your welfare,let truth be told.and I hope the regulatory authority ask this hotshot Captain a few questions.Its not who is right but what is right Mr Professional Pilot
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Lots of explaining to do . . .
Gidigba and 221340; you both made some very interesting points. I agree that the hotshot should be questioned and, equally Arik should be questioned and made accountable for upholding the regs/sops. It's an unsustainable business model to do otherwise, which is why I'm surprised to read your charges that they disregard the standards as a matter of both policy and practice . . .
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Paid for which month ??
I understand they paid for ?? March or April ? and that "got most" back into the air / along with the firing of one Capt. - so now the game continues for next month and next month and ...... We all know how this goes. Good Luck to all 
Zebiak - You have seriously put ARIK and "accountable" and "Regs" in the same sentence - clearly have never worked for ARIK. As for the "unsustainable business model" well they are going on 5 years now and got a 129 approval ! for what aircraft - well that is to be seen. The only truth I know is that those who are still in LOS will never get all money owed and as for a potential for a adverse Aircraft event due to this and literally dozens of other items as 221340 mentioned - I agree with him only a matter of time - sad but probable given the current situation.
Zebiak - You have seriously put ARIK and "accountable" and "Regs" in the same sentence - clearly have never worked for ARIK. As for the "unsustainable business model" well they are going on 5 years now and got a 129 approval ! for what aircraft - well that is to be seen. The only truth I know is that those who are still in LOS will never get all money owed and as for a potential for a adverse Aircraft event due to this and literally dozens of other items as 221340 mentioned - I agree with him only a matter of time - sad but probable given the current situation.
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Thank you Chiroflyer
You're right, I'm not an Arik pilot. I just find this situation fascinating with all due respect to those who are real stakeholders having a vested interest in this company. I'm glad you raised the comment about "sustainable business model". I know more about financing things than piloting and I know that if Arik gets too cute with respect to Regs/SOPs, then the lenders/insurance co's will bring a sh#$storm upon the company. That's why I find it illogical that they would be so foolish as to do the things that some on this thread have charged (e.g., policies creating danger to person and property). There have been many harsh claims on this board, but noone has said that these guys are dumb.
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the Saga continous
Zebiak
Ok understand / not at ARIK - you can trust those who post here / sadly it is all TRUE - thus the number of posts and length of time this has dragged on.
There are no stakeholders ?? this is one person's preverbal wet dream gone wrong. As for lenders you are correct - like the ones that REPO the 330 last month or the 7 current aircraft "stuck" in long term C Checks because they cannot pay for them to come out (30 % of ARIK's fleet)
No one says they are dumb - far from that, they have acheived what major US Airlines have never achieved - Pilots flying for free / IOSA approval while while it lasts. What everyone here does say is that the days are numbered and they do not PAY - simple but true.
Ok understand / not at ARIK - you can trust those who post here / sadly it is all TRUE - thus the number of posts and length of time this has dragged on.
There are no stakeholders ?? this is one person's preverbal wet dream gone wrong. As for lenders you are correct - like the ones that REPO the 330 last month or the 7 current aircraft "stuck" in long term C Checks because they cannot pay for them to come out (30 % of ARIK's fleet) No one says they are dumb - far from that, they have acheived what major US Airlines have never achieved - Pilots flying for free / IOSA approval while while it lasts. What everyone here does say is that the days are numbered and they do not PAY - simple but true.
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Is it just a coincedence or the posts on this thread has practically slowed to a crawl, or the fear that AJ might some how get PPRUNE mgmnt to disclose the identity of the ARIK pilots castigating the company for late payments of salaries for severe punishment has forced most guys to crawl into their shells, pick up their rosters and conform.
News has it that the pilots that flew on single engine to LOS after a bird strike on departure from OWR, have had their licences suspended by the aviation authority after operating to LHR same day, any confirmation?
News has it that the pilots that flew on single engine to LOS after a bird strike on departure from OWR, have had their licences suspended by the aviation authority after operating to LHR same day, any confirmation?
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AJ might some how get PPRuNe mgmnt to disclose the identity of the ARIK pilots castigating the company for late payments of salaries
It's a matter of record pilots aren't being paid and he certainly can't buy us
I suppose he could threaten to offer me a 737 job to incite a moral collapse on my part?Rob
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Can anybody tell me about the terms and conditions at Arik ? I will work for free, and wear 5 stripes on my uniform. Also, will fly airplanes with engines inoperative.
I was made for Arik! Please, somebody respond soon!!! I also have ten mates who will also work (all got their licenses in India, so you know that's good).
Please, contact me soon. I need hours !!! When can I start?
Edit: I forgot to add, I can miss all those big birds with my Boeing, easy!! Even easier in an Airbus (whoops, don't have that one anymore).
Hurry, CALL !!!!
I was made for Arik! Please, somebody respond soon!!! I also have ten mates who will also work (all got their licenses in India, so you know that's good).
Please, contact me soon. I need hours !!! When can I start?
Edit: I forgot to add, I can miss all those big birds with my Boeing, easy!! Even easier in an Airbus (whoops, don't have that one anymore).
Hurry, CALL !!!!
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Rob,
the full sentence states '.......or the fear that AJ might somehow get PPRUNE mngmnt to somehow.......' Key word; FEAR!!! Not to doubt PPRUNE credibility, confidentiality or intergrity, but to highlight how fear full most Arik pilots are of their chairman, maybe even attribute magical powers to the man.
Or how else do you explain grown adult married men & women flying for free rather than insist on beign paid their lawful wages for work done before additional work is considered, fire one captain and everyone else
shelves any idea of dissent.
These folks shouldnt underrate the pilots' licences they hold, no airline that i can think of would rather have their planes on ground and close shop than pay their pilots their legitimate earnings.
Has anyone reported this unpaid salaries to the aviation authority? (even anonymously if too scared)
the full sentence states '.......or the fear that AJ might somehow get PPRUNE mngmnt to somehow.......' Key word; FEAR!!! Not to doubt PPRUNE credibility, confidentiality or intergrity, but to highlight how fear full most Arik pilots are of their chairman, maybe even attribute magical powers to the man.
Or how else do you explain grown adult married men & women flying for free rather than insist on beign paid their lawful wages for work done before additional work is considered, fire one captain and everyone else
shelves any idea of dissent.
These folks shouldnt underrate the pilots' licences they hold, no airline that i can think of would rather have their planes on ground and close shop than pay their pilots their legitimate earnings.
Has anyone reported this unpaid salaries to the aviation authority? (even anonymously if too scared)
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Flight Safety,Again
@WD,the world is full of suprises,working for free is not my kettle of fish,safety ultimately is the loser for it,confirmed reports state that the crew that flew with one engine from Owerri to lagos,later that evening operated a flight into LHR,could it have been the crews fear of losing their layover allowance in London that affected their better judgement since they were not getting paid their legitimate salaries?The ultimate loser is always safety.if you are all so scared of oga johnson at least you can all report sick,theres no law against falling sick especially if you are suffering from acute pay induced stress/fatigue.Its your life guys keep playing russian roulette with it
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Arik Air Should Increase Salary of pilots
After the Afriqiyah Airways , Arik air now becomes the favorite air line in eyes of lagos people. Being a direct flight from london to lagos Arik Airlines is now the favourite choice . Managment should now take a brave step and should increase the salary of pilots.
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Where's Gaddafi?
Malik,
Good PR job, i wonder how much fatman is paying you for the advert work for ''emirates of Africa'', a.k.a Arik Air.
Since you mentioned the Airline of Africa - Afriqiyah in your previous post, would you be so kind to tell the world where Gaddafi is hiding?
And please make sure you don't end up like the pilots, make sure fatman pays before you offer any additional service.
Happy landings mate.
Good PR job, i wonder how much fatman is paying you for the advert work for ''emirates of Africa'', a.k.a Arik Air.
Since you mentioned the Airline of Africa - Afriqiyah in your previous post, would you be so kind to tell the world where Gaddafi is hiding?
And please make sure you don't end up like the pilots, make sure fatman pays before you offer any additional service.
Happy landings mate.
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Largest Charity In Lagos
We have the Red Cross, St. John Ambulance, Save The Children Fund etc and Arik.
What do they have in common??
All their staff work for FREE.... volunteer organizations.
Happy Landings
LAHS
What do they have in common??
All their staff work for FREE.... volunteer organizations.
Happy Landings
LAHS