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Old 28th Feb 2009, 19:01
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'useless' getting a type on A319/20/21 now on...?

Nice for the locals.


So soon we sould be expecting fresh CPL holders in front of wide bodies.
Seems nice...hope the standard remains the same though.

I am still very skeptical how it will freshen the atmosphere and allegiate losses.

Infact I foresee management power overwhelming flight crews, and conditions would be 'Ryanaired'.

I prefer instruct for more years then come down.
Hope the situation becomes more favorable in some...let's say 5 years...
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Out of touch

Hey PD. Seems like your sewage system is not providing you with your daily requirements fast enough. Airline Captain seems to be better informed
Thx for your "poor 43 Air school okes and newspapers" oriented comments tho. speaking of which there's some funny news about some ex 43 blooper suing the company. Will see how far he goes considering he couldn't even take-off.
Airline captain seems to be providing some really spicy news no one seems to be aware of.
Knowledgeable people out there, enlighten me plz.
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Humm.
WOOF WOOF
Jet Cockpit, I am sure you are just a piece of the thing floating in the pipeline you just described.
Your posting does smell as bad as you talk.
Yeah,who does not know the 43 SBM batch poor okes.I am sure you are one of them and your uncle talked to the pilots to let you in.
Pity that public money will be used to fund your conversion and type rating.Try to make it as the company will burn fuel at $105 especially just for you.
Yeah,speaking of the 43 blooper suing MK,this is very interesting stuff.
I heard that long time back.
Heard he was leading the team and contesting Management in the beginning for some contract problems for his group.
Heard DCA landed down in ops and are digging down some stuffs.The last Capt who flew with him was suspended under instructions from overseas due to Capt Error.Also heard some cover up stories that MK Senior Capts and MALPA have done.
Strange to hear he is in Emirates today.
Talking of knowledgeable people,you are making a joke.
You are 'intellectuellement limiter' (think more plz)
Go back to your okes and ask ur uncle to keep you safe there.
Mind the dogs at the airport.You can get chased and hit by a truck!
Safe way!
WOOF WOOF
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Hi PD

I like the way you jump on to such rapid conclusions. Considering the high degree of professionalism and diplomacy required of Aviation Drivers, I believe strongly that you definitely aren't one (judging by cheap thinking).
All the best with your training. MK will not terminate your contract before it even starts!!!
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Re : Jet cok pi

Thanks for the compliment!
Conclusion,no man.You made that conclusion.
My eyes are behind your back and funny that you are on the boat that leads you to ATR soon.
Hope it does not sink and you have a laminated contract and licence.
You are a very low thinker and ur remarks in previous posts is a disgrace when u yourself pretend to be in MK.
I never got the chance to be there where u lucky nominees are heading.
Hope u are not that Brit guy using his mother's Mauritian passport to get into MK.
And again,you apply your last remarks to yourself.
Just because you and your okes have golden parachutes does not mean that you are safe in the skies soon.I will see you from the tower each time.
And read your contracts well before you bunch of dummies sign it.I heard MK is making a special deal with you okes.
That's a friendly piece of advice.
You are certainly going to be the googoo dolls.
I will watch and bark down on the apron.
So mind the dogs again starring at you.
Safe skies.
WOOF WOOF
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Why having a username as PlaisanceDog seemingly gives you the attitude of one?

Come on...stop bashing on everyone uselessly.
If you want to contribute intelligently ...first start by believing you are not superior than anyone else here in this forum.



Jet cockpit, any more precise news on the 43 air guy in question?
Any information on what ground he was fired exactly?

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Good luck....that's achievement.

pursue till the end.
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Hi Guys/Gals..
It's with great apprehension that I read the recent postings here on MK..
PlaisanceDog, your information here are somewhat positive and explains many things..But you cannot take the personal matters of a Professional Pilot and write these here..The small community of Mauritian pilots around the world reads everything here and you might face the risk of being retraced..
It's for your own benefit and no hard feelings..
At least,there are well wishers here who want to help the locals to get into MK and let them pursue their work and vision..Thank you guys..
From the confidential information you have exposed here,I understand you are having access in the DCA meetings..Please don't play around there as I have close friends telling me that there is an international investigation going on concerning the dismissal of that specific pilot..Rest assured that he did not do anything wrong in flying..MK simply asked him to pack up and leave..He reported disturbing events in his flights and the DCA,NTSB and IFALPA are following his case and let them do their work..
I received shocking information that 3 cadets were removed in similar ways..
MK is using the strategy of delaying tactics from what I was told as the matter has turned out to take a legal dimension..
I was informed from authorities that this specific First Officer has gone through unfair conditions which I will not discuss..
I don't think Air India needs his competences..He is here in Emirates and at the surprise of all,doing a great work..
Guys,don't muck around..If you have any questions and settlements with anyone,I will be happy to assist you..but don't create problems for anyone here..
Best regards and all the best to all the Mauritians out there..
RaviMK..
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Hi 2 all! Feels good to know that a certain standard of professionalism still exists here.
About:
1. Plaisance Dog's comments
Couldn't be anyone else. RaviMk is right.Doesn't take long to find out about people's history. Btw I really regret not being able to have flown the ATR before starting on the big ones. Apparently its a better turbotrop to the one I flew.Sigh.
2. Ex 43 Guy:
I think we have opposing views here Ravi Mk. We all know his name. Poor training history in SA and on the ATR even though MK tried their best to retain his services. Key person here is India Sierra (Minister of sthing) who helped the nephew get in. Anyways during line training through continuous hints from Flt Ops and others he was still messing up. The main argument is that the mistakes he was making are virtually impossible taking into account the sophisticated system on the ATR. I mean how do you miss a runway?!!
Thats approximately what I can offer as information for now. But more to come. I really doubt him being in the Middle East at this stage.
3.Airline Captain:
No personal issues here: Why don't you try joining MK for now? Wide-body jet hours for 4 years then you can try greener pastures. Am sure it looks like a more viable option since line training at your company will be far more competitive and being a mauritian they would be a bit more lenient here. Not that I doubt your capabilities but just some food for thought.
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I need to tell you guys that I find it quite interesting and sometimes even amusing, all those comments/rumors you people post here.

Im mean seriously.....It started with political affiliations, went to the financial downfall of Mk, suddenly diverged towards 43, quick reciprocal towards some cadet whos now in court with Mk, quick detour towards SIA, Air France and even Cathay now popping up and again turning inbound towards politics....Jesus thats a hell of a holding pattern, maybe a new one, the Mauritian holding pattern

I'm going to talk for the rest of us here: Can we just stick to the point. All the bitching etc etc I know who you are, I've got eyes behind my back etc etc...Grow up people! I really don't know if you guys are licence holders, but let me tell you something: if you are capable of that kind of gossip; you must a hell of a crew member to have in the cockpit

Lets stick to whats relevant! Whats going at Plaisance and what should we expect in the coming months?

I like the idea of recruiting as many Mauritian holders as possible either cadet or self-sponsored. Wow, someone mentioned type-rating on the A340 even provided....April's fool? From what I've heard, MK is in no financial state of providing such things Whats the catch?

And again guys...lets stick to whats productive
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Old 1st Mar 2009, 15:40
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Hi Guys/Gals,
Before I continue again,provocative posting for some and quite some personal allegations..
Jet Cockpit, don't get in the habit of putting self-proclaimed opinions on people's private life..I made the same remarks for self-control earlier at some stage and hope it is food for thought for everyone here..Full Stop..
Unfortunately,we do not share the same opinion of the Pilot in question in the headlines..
I am discussing this story based on facts and evidences contrary to confrontations,associations and politicial linkages..
Let's remain in the title of the thread - Air Mauritius Crisis..
I had seen and planned things for the 2006 Cadets batch..I feel slightly attached to get a follow up once in a while for the hard work I once did..
I think you are not in a position to judge him here and not even anyone,considering that you are MK Crew and over-informed apparently..
I presume the allegations you politely stated are from feedbacks you had from the peers of the Pilot..I know all their stories and the worst ones too..
I learned that MK is very dissappointed to see the below Standards Performance of the entire batch..
This did and I think still does worry Training Captains,the DFO and Ops Seniors..
From occasional correspondence I get from FIMP controllers,it's till today a big stress when an ATR is seen on approach and short finals..
The Line Training itself is to be questioned,argument that many Crew have argued..
Not too nice to tell,but the MK Captains say that there will be some more surprises to come with the new ones..Keep discovering..
It is not something new to hear that the Pilot in question was not given a fair hearing in Flight Ops..Management successfully and quickly arranged to get rid of him with untold strories..
The Missed Runway story you made up does not stand good as there are no reported MORs..don't listen and print here..you know the rules of the company there..
I am highly interested in his story since I have confirmed news that IFALPA and NTSB are in enquiry with MK+DCA,and setting records right..
Apparently,some people are hiding and MK is now playing a very low profile with the actions of the Pilot..
Well,you can doubt of course and I agree with you..But he's here..Trust me on that..
The mystery that unfolds in this case is similar to that during the days where Ruslam R. was threatened and suspended for leading truth to higher authorities..
We cannot pronounce anything here but..yet..
We must follow the matter in Court and I am looking forward to that personally..
To take such an Airline to Court is something we must learn from for our own interests and appreciate as Supportive Mauritian Pilots..
I know many don't share this opinion right now but sooner you will think again..
The past has showed that some Pilots even applaused when a Mauritian Pilot was set up and shown the way out..
Matter to follow in Court..
Will keep posted..
RaviMK..
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Old 1st Mar 2009, 16:36
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But here Mk did not even let me go through the psycho and interview.
Yeah mate, you would have scared the living s..t out of them. What is it like living in your head ??
Are you some kind of deap throat secret insider lurking in the parking lot ? How come no one still hasn't pegged a name on your profile yet. You might as well give your mobile number.
Anyhoo, what a can of worms. This place hasn't changed !!

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Old 1st Mar 2009, 18:50
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Well said dude!
I couldn't have put it any better. I've been following this thread with keen interest and was wondering when someone was going to tell Airline Captain a few home truths! As FLM stated a few posts back.......lets "stick to whats relevent"and not let personal agendas get in the way. To Airline Captain (a bit presumptious I think), I say good luck in your future venture, I really wish you the best, but I also hope that the poor devils that hired you as a cadet pilot have even more luck...........I reckon you'll both need it! It's going to be hard for you!
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Slumdog Millionaire n PlaisanceDog

WOOF WOOF
What a coincidence?
Slumdog Millionaire was banned in India and here in pprune,PlaisanceDog was banned too.
Will have to fish out my 8 oscars.

I was walking and running down the apron yesterday looking for a place to pee.These days,there isn't much space left when 5 MK aircrafts are sitting down idle.
I won't be venturing too much around DCA now on as per warnings received here,I smell the traps will be waiting for me.

A few clarrifications for benefit of doubt:

1. Who is ZP? Is it the nephew of the VPM (Minister Romeo Bravo)? Nice to see him in MK soon. The more,the merrier.

2. Airline Captain, can you check with your bosses in MK Ops Department Meeting and convince a dog like me if NAV and NAU were not leased when the 5 A340 joined MK long time ago in 1993? I was not born those days.Can you ask the bosses if a leased aircraft is having the colours of the Paille en Queue,it is considered company property.

3. Sniffing down in engineering Dept last night,I saw all the trainees were not there to give me left over food.What happened to them? I will bite the HR people if they have received Bye Bye letters. I was sniffing for a guy HSC holder with thick glasses and found out in the bins that he is paying for his own pilot training and going soon.Nice to hear everyone in engineering were conditioned to say that he has been selected to be a cadet in a high calibre airline!

4. If it's that easy,I will search for a cadetship sponsor contract in the cereal box each morning.

5. Airline Captain,all the best in your Training.
Give the wannabees more tips once there.Sincerely wanted to join you there.
One for you. WOOF WOOF
How was your selection done? Can you share with us how you succeeded with the tests? How many tests you did? Is it a 5 years contract after completion of training on 737? I always wanted to participate in that.Are dogs allowed?

6. Thanks to Ops Dept Meeting Relays established here live and direct now on pprune.All pilots,fake pilots and animals are well connected to big decisions inside MK.
Airline Captain, you said 20 fresh wannabees yearly, WOOF WOOF
The family members will now get equal chances to get into MK.After the Uncle as Captain,the nephew making his way on A330,MALPA and lobby for Captain to be,heard the other nephew in Joburg will be accomodated soon.
MK Pilots from 43 Air School were never in speaking terms with him there.
Some refer his mental problems and arrogance.No wonder,the poor guy took 80hrs to try to complete a PPL,was washed out from 43.He got admission in PE and then ran to Joburg.Nice family records left behind.Heard 2 more cousins started pilot training recently.
Five(5!) Bachoo pilots in MK is not too much?

WOOF WOOF

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Brilliant decision 4HP.

Btw Mauritius is too small to let personal info leak on a forum, many of you guys are already identifiable.

The Pprune environment is a place where one can share helpful info, denounce and warn others. Media Liberalisation is not extended to all domains in MU, so this forum shouldn't be a place where identities could be identified by expressed opinions thus leading to a halt of consistent information flow.


Please mask.
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Old 2nd Mar 2009, 19:21
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Time to end this

Fellows i would like to apologise for my burst of anger which resulted in me spitting out the truths.
My appeal is that we keep real as good airmen.
PlaisanceDog, I think almost ev1 identified you here; this is mauritius man.
Just don't make matters worse here and may ethics reign here!!
Happy Landings.
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Priesthoodship now?

WOOF WOOF

Church songs here? Gospel? Kiddy land?
What happened to the hotshots?
My God! Deletion of thread refused,deletions of postings,apologies and even an appeal!

Oops I did it again! For benefit of doubt :

Airline Captain,
Pulling the plug and walking out on the tips of your toes?
Are you related to MK Chairman?
Chicken!
People and animals want to know.You had brought high hopes here.
How were you selected to be a cadet in your high calibre airline?
Which airline is it in FSX?
You and your very detailed posting (DELETED ) had said that you are having information for the audience here.
Would it not be presentable of you to come back and put your real time downloads of operations dept meetings here?
Would be helpful if 4HP puts back the missing postings to the thread.
People and animals will get the knowhow of the thread from nose to tail.
Administrators,can you help?
Anyways Airline Captain,goodluck with the cadet stuff.
Whenever you land in Plaisance,park your high calibre airplane near the hangar,like that,
I can pee on the main gears to mark a new territory.
Come and see us sometimes in Engineering!

RaviMK,
For benefit of doubt,crowd and animals use your rumours as food for thought and food for the starving stomachs.
The bins at Plaisance are running out of food and left overs.
My animal instincts are misleading.
Will MK stay alive and save our souls,inclusive the expats?

Jet Cockpit,
I copy and paste your message to you.Accept please!
I burst in anger for being banned,which resulted in me spitting out only truths and no falses.
Jet Cockpit,I think almost ev1 identified you here,this is Mauritius man.
Just don't make matters worse and may ethics reign here.
Safe landings!

WOOF WOOF
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Sweet Jesus

Thinking trusting paxs might actually ride being a bunch of lunies like you people is a real worry. You are certified basket cases.
Isn't there some kind of moderating on this site. Once upon a very long time ago I used to fly for MK and thought they were crazy. Compared to you they were the very DSM IV definition of mental health.
Moderator please, close this thread down or have MK shut down. No one will miss it anyway !
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Sure bud - your wish is my command - thread closed.

Now, do you think closing the thread is going to make the 'trusting paxs' feel any better about flying with MK?

This thread was raised to alert those of us not directly working for MK of the current crisis - this is serious stuff - a number of guys who've been on the island for many years are extremely concerned for their future, brought about by, sure the global slump, but also by some serious duffing from the bean-counters. And then we were enlightened as to the current nepotism being conducted by both local and expatriate senior staff. Happens in the best of families but makes for interesting reading.

And then, admittedly, this thread got hijacked by a number of colorful lads with vivid imaginations and dexterous prose who weren't concerned with dropping names and making insinuations. But clearly (the majority of them) had an inside line and by adopting a slightly stand-offish moderation I believed that we could continue to hear what was going on (this is a rumour forum) without invoking any libel.

But your blasphemous concern that we will look like crazy lunies to our trusting paxs has shaken my moderator’s ethos to its very roots and I accede to your demand.

If anyone feels like keeping us posted as to what's happening with MK please feel free to open a new thread. Our thoughts are with all of the guys involved.

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