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"My Life as a Ferry Pilot" BBC News 12 October 2015. In it DH talks of the challenge and of a number of ferry pilots he knew who never made it. He stands alongside N264DB and demonstrates its instruments. Eerie indeed....
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zNewspapers are carrying details of one of the last messages from the passenger. A transcript of the audio reads: "Hey brothers, how's everything going? Brother, I'm dead. I was in Nantes doing stuff, stuff, stuff and stuff... neverending, neverending, neverending, neverending. So anyway boys, I'm now on a plane which seems to be falling apart. "And now I'm leaving for Cardiff, crazy that tomorrow I'll be training in the afternoon with my new teammates. We'll see what happens. "So how are things with you brothers? All well? "In an hour and a half if you haven't had news of me, I don't know if they'll send someone to look for me, because they're not going to find me. But, you know... "Dad, I'm so scared." |
Originally Posted by Oldpilot55
(Post 10368082)
DH is not the pilot missing in this accident.
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Originally Posted by Gurnard
(Post 10368069)
"My Life as a Ferry Pilot" BBC News 12 October 2015. In it DH talks of the challenge and of a number of ferry pilots he knew who never made it. He stands alongside N264DB and demonstrates its instruments. Eerie indeed....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/magazi...-a-ferry-pilot |
Originally Posted by sellbydate
(Post 10368039)
Wrong - title is to Southern Aircraft Consultancy but actual ownership is an individual in Mansfield
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BBC reporting the football club are claiming the player booked the flight. Cardiff City chairman Mehmet Dalman said players and fans were in a "state of shock". "We are still praying," he said, adding that the club had received messages of support from around the world. The "family of football has a way of coming together at times of tragedy," Mr Dalman told BBC Radio Wales' Good Morning Wales programme. He also confirmed that the club had not booked the plane for the trip, adding that Sala had "made his own arrangements". |
Having been intimately involved with the signing of and life insurance exmainations for professional footballers for several years, I would be sadly surprised if all the insurance paperwork had gone through at this stage.
My experience is that this would be sorted once the player arrived for training. Cardiff however could be much more "efficiently" run, and could possibly have some interim insurance to cover such eventualities. My heartfelt sympathies to all involved. |
So who is leading on the Accident Investigation on this - nothing from the AAIB.
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BBC R4 news reporting that it's possible that the footballer and one other person might have climbed into a life-raft.
That's surely based on the Ferry Pilot clip where it's explained that on trans-Atlantic crossings there is a life-raft in the back to buy him up to 8hrs although he adds that he wears a neoprene immersion suit. But they wouldn't have been wearing neoprene on this occasion (would they?) so unless based on rescue services knowledge, the lift-raft possibility would be way off the mark, no? |
I have no reason to doubt the statement from the club but something doesn’t add up here 1) There are reports that his mother said the aircraft was arranged by the club 2) He doesn’t seem to be at all comfortable with light aircraft so was he someone who would lease a plane and then go out and hire himself a pilot 3) At the very least the club had knowledge of his travel plans and I would have thought would have taken a close interest in the safety of their very expensive “asset” |
It's a shame he didn't just book airline.
Most effectively AF/KLM through Amsterdam, as there is no reasonable connection at Paris. 1715 from Nantes arrive Ametsrdam 1900. 2120 from Amsterdam arrive Cardiff 2140. Seems little different to the light aircraft times. Regarding the statement that the passenger had arranged the aircraft himself, I think we would be a bit surprised if he knew, personally, where to start with this. It will be notable to learn who/what else the owner had used this aircraft for over time. |
Originally Posted by Chris Kebab
(Post 10368137)
So who is leading on the Accident Investigation on this - nothing from the AAIB.
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Icing sounds very likely, but what about the possible effect upon instruments if the passenger was not using his phone in "flight safe mode"? Evidently he was busy sending messages indicating that he was uneasy.
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I have no reason to doubt the statement from the club but something doesn’t add up here 1) There are reports that his mother said the aircraft was arranged by the club 2) He doesn’t seem to be at all comfortable with light aircraft so was he someone who would lease a plane and then go out and hire himself a pilot 3) At the very least the club had knowledge of his travel plans and I would have thought would have taken a close interest in the safety of their very expensive “asset” |
Originally Posted by ATC Watcher
(Post 10368035)
To correct a few points : Guernsey is class D airspace at this altitude, so you need a transponder to enter, they normally do not give exceptions .. Any aircraft whatever its registration nationality that wants to fly in EASA airspace requires a mode S transponder . Mode A/C are no longer to be used,, In the USA you can still use the old A/C transponder but then you cannot enter, let alone be based in European airspace.
Now, flying -DT through Belgium later was a completely different matter - I had to circumnavigate every bit of controlled airspace while there. I think it still varies by country, as I have recently flown -DT into and out of EPLL whose TMA is Class C. Clear as mud. |
Originally Posted by Right Way Up
(Post 10368197)
One person who hasn't been mentioned yet in all of this is his agent! I would have thought the chances he booked the flight are fairly high.
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I spent a few years flying VFR around the Channel Islands, the weather can change very quickly and there are some very strong sea currents around Alderney, so even if they got into a life raft they would still be in real trouble. How sad for all involved.
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