Originally Posted by uxb99
(Post 11306249)
What I don't understand with this unfortunate incident is the apparent complicity of the footballer in question (not blaming him here, this is just an opinion, observation) to fly in the aircraft in the first place.
Obviously with hindsight but if it was me, I would have insisted a main carrier first class with all the bells and whistles. After all he was worth several million. Academic of course but flying with a single pilot in a small aircraft doesn't seem to fit the footballer lifestyle? Footballers travel regularilly on small aicraft. Many private jets are not much bigger than the accident aircraft and some are flown single Pilot but not commercially in Europe. I do however agree to an extent with the point you are trying to make. |
I haven't checked but strongly suspect there is no airline service from Nantes to Cardiff, let alone by a major airline and certainly not first class as that doesn't generally exist on short haul European flights. |
Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 11306321)
The most direct route would have been via Amsterdam
Does anyone knows if the British Club actually paid for the footballer transfer in the end ? They initially refused, there was court case , but I missed the results or if a compromise was found in the meantime |
Originally Posted by ATC Watcher
(Post 11306765)
Does anyone knows if the British Club actually paid for the footballer transfer in the end ? They initially refused, there was court case , but I missed the results or if a compromise was found in the meantime
So presumably that means the McKay agent/s Henderson and perhaps the estate of Ibbotson. |
Originally Posted by ATC Watcher
(Post 11306765)
And safest in this case, which if I remember was proposed initially to the Club but it was refused in favor of this flight.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 11306321)
The most direct route would have been via Amsterdam
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I have made my point on this in the past but even if a fully qualified pilot had been in the left hand seat the carbon monoxide leak would have produced the same result. The one thing to learn from this accident is that cheap carbon monoxide alarms are available and should be mandatory in all light aircraft.
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Originally Posted by uxb99
(Post 11306249)
Obviously with hindsight but if it was me, I would have insisted a main carrier first class with all the bells and whistles. After all he was worth several million. Academic of course but flying with a single pilot in a small aircraft doesn't seem to fit the footballer lifestyle?
If one is in a business situation at that level where other people are making the arrangements I think it's quite natural for the passengers to assume the operation is safe. As you can read from earlier in this thread, it took me this accident and this thread for me to realise how unsafe such an operation can become, and to realise that I was probably not insured on any of the several similar flights I took. |
Originally Posted by Mike Flynn
(Post 11311220)
I have made my point on this in the past but even if a fully qualified pilot had been in the left hand seat the carbon monoxide leak would have produced the same result. The one thing to learn from this accident is that cheap carbon monoxide alarms are available and should be mandatory in all light aircraft.
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Originally Posted by paulross
(Post 11311805)
The AAIB have a recommendation about this from July 1972, 50 years ago: 13-1972_G-AYPN.pdf (last page).
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