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Old 24th Mar 2011, 19:54
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Its the mumbo jumbo of trying to say things as indirectly as possible that really irritates these days. "Faith Based Counselling" in other words, the Padre popped round to see how they getting on, over a cup of tea/coffee and a biscuit.

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OMG, the bludgy Media have found a female pilot.

I worked professionally with women in the RAF for 30 years.
Apart from having differently-shaped sweaters, who gives a sh 1t?

That said, she clearly has balls.
Fly safe, along with everyone else who actually have them
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 20:12
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BBC reports Aircraft had landed, and was engaged with an ASM
- terribly unsporting, what?
.... if it were a game bird BOAC perhaps, but all's fair ......
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 20:23
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Charles De Gaulle - Air Ops

Awesome - the Rafale looks the dogs b******cks - I note the old Etendard (aka Hong Kong Dart in '82) is still strop launched - but as I said - awesome

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Old 24th Mar 2011, 20:27
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Re post 782

I can see the F35 purchase getting further and further away now that the rafale can be seen to "do the stuff" ..........................
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 20:30
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Could be - its already got a GA role - Don't think the Typhoon has - yet ??

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Old 24th Mar 2011, 20:31
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SINGAPURCANAC,

Who are your sources? I hope that they are not being generated by any members of the old Yugoslav Ministry of Information?

Next he'll be a steely eyed Serb mercenary who used the Galeb to shoot down the F-15E?

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Old 24th Mar 2011, 20:38
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Typhoon has demonstrated that capability. Paveway II and the Mauser 27mm cleared for service.

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http://www.xisquadron.co.uk/News/AFM...ngsofSwing.pdf

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Old 24th Mar 2011, 20:47
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I think the PR release omitted the word limited before ground attack capability. Paveway 2 yes but Brimstone and Storm Shadow?

If not, Typhoon would be off to Afghanstan and Tornado GR4 the wild blue yonder like the F3.

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Old 24th Mar 2011, 21:07
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teeej,
I haven't seen the reason to answer your question
Who are your sources?

I hope that they are not being generated by any members of the old Yugoslav Ministry of Information? No ,my source is Jamie Shea(or something like this) famous for "collateral damage"

and what kind of problem do you have? You have already mentioned 5 times ex-Yugoslav faces or events. Could you be pleased to inform us about connection to two cases?
I just react to that type of story ,that is generally speaking , very "intentionally" .
there is no any direct connection,but you try to make it.
And at least some things is not secret,probably it has been written million of times so far.

And nobody claim that G-3 could shot down anything. it is not the purpose of it. It is light jet trainer with some,very limited ground capabilities and two gun 12.7mm(if I remember correctly) for "air defense"

My idea and logic,said that Libyans use G-3 for "mask" purpose. They send one G-3 on some suicide mission, in order to move fighters/bombers from some other hot spots.
it has been done very effectively in the past.

And I hope that you wouldn't ask again for source.
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 21:33
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You've got to love the language barrier haven't you ?
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 22:43
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draken55,

The PR release specifically mentions that and doesn't elude to anything but a limited weapons capacity.

There are no plans at present to deploy Typhoon to Afghanistan or Iraq

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Old 24th Mar 2011, 22:53
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SINGAPURCANAC,

Well you haven't answered my question in my previous reply. You were obviously under the impression that NATO had substantial hidden manned aircraft losses back in Yugoslavia during 1999. The language barrier has got in the way in reference to the Galeb/F-15. Obviously you missed the roll eyes (sarcastic) emoticon?

They send one G-3 on some suicide mission, in order to move fighters/bombers from some other hot spots.
it has been done very effectively in the past.
Of course they did and nobody noticed. All eyes were trained on the Galeb! Did they fire up and move the Tu-22 Blinders?

And I hope that you wouldn't ask again for source.
Go on spill the beans. Venik, Libyan Ministry of Information? I won't ask again as you are obviously making it up as you go along.

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Old 24th Mar 2011, 23:08
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So although it's partially true to say the Typhoon can do Ground Attack that's only if you need P2 and/or a Gun. Hence why Typhoon is no use at present for Afghanistan, a conflict close in nature to what Libya may become.

Over Libya there seems no shortage of AD FJ's. The possible shortfall is Ground Attack, especially if the US steps back as it seems to want to do.

For the UK that puts all the onus on the GR4 as only it can carry all the stores that might be needed. What if this drags on?
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 01:27
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Draken55,

I note from the serials that the Typhoons deployed are all FGR4s. If there is a requirement for more ground attack then surely the Typhoon could carry a mixed load? I would imagine that the limiting factor is the number of pilots cleared for air to ground? What is the difference between Canadians flying this air defence load with LGBs and an FGR4 cleared for Paveway II? If push came to shove could it be done?

Canadian CF-18 pictured taking off for a mission over Libya.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...99-2082-01.jpg

Canadian CF-18s bomb Libyan ammunition depot in first attack of campaign - Yahoo! News

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Old 25th Mar 2011, 08:08
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I don't understand why the rebels aren't making short shrift of Gaddafi's armour in urban areas - they must be sitting ducks for RPGs.
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 09:27
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RNoAF F-16 began flying missions with air to ground weapons fit over Libya yesterday, with missions last night as well.

From first mission departure yesterday (From Dagbladet.no - forsiden)

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Old 25th Mar 2011, 09:37
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What?

Airpolice

What's wrong with the article? And why would a 'proper' English teacher use it as an example text?
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 11:00
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Its a funny old world

Reports today that the UAE have agreed to send 6 F16s and 6 Mirages to participate in the NFZ, just over a week after they sent a contingent of police to Bahrain to assist with the dispersal of protestors.

Does.....not.....compute....zzztt
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 11:21
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The US wants others to be in the lead on Libya. Having supported the initial attacks they seem keen to step back. When they do who steps up? There seems no shortage of support for the NFZ but less for bombing missions bar the usual dependable nations and France.

Typhoon will then need to play a role as you suggest along with the GR4. I really do hope this does not become a drawn out affair but the current signs are not promising.
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