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Yes they do but it's one thing doing a short hop to the UK and another to fly to America, and a B767 or an A330 is not a B777 which is the aircraft this publicity stunt claimed was to be used.
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I wasn't making reference to long haul, I was simply stating that your claim a 737 is pushing it when fully loaded is rubbish - an A330 and B767 can do it so a B737 can do it more easily.
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I do know these are for short haul yet so are the 737s you mentioned.
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I didn't say it was tight. I said in certain conditions. A rare condition it was but the limit was in sight. I fly one for a living you'll have to trust me. I was trying to keep it in simple terms to offer a comparison between operating a light single aisle and almost the largest widebody airliner Boeing have. We are getting away from the point now anyway, the longhaul airline was a PR stunt, as was the charging for toilets, as was standing pax, as was charging for body weight etc etc.
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I am sorry Telstar, I geuss I was fooled by MOL - something which doesn't happen often!!! I am afraid I do not know enough to say what routes I would run, I don't think I have ever salivated either.
If it was a publicity stunt - then lets draw a line under it, although I did think it was going to happen.
If it was a publicity stunt - then lets draw a line under it, although I did think it was going to happen.
We are getting away from the point now anyway, the longhaul airline was a PR stunt
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A350XWB is the most likely aircraft IF the airline were to take form.
787 may be a bit small yet Airbus would have to co-operate with MOL which isn't exactly what the bosses at Toulouse have come to terms with yet - he wants them for LESS than it costs you to make! LESS! God...all these execs who are not doing what MOL wants - what is this world coming to!
787 may be a bit small yet Airbus would have to co-operate with MOL which isn't exactly what the bosses at Toulouse have come to terms with yet - he wants them for LESS than it costs you to make! LESS! God...all these execs who are not doing what MOL wants - what is this world coming to!
Well Racedo as the Ryanair employee assigned to monitor this corner of PPRuNe I'm sure you get to hear the whitehouse rumours first hand.
Getting back to the question rather than the people do you think FR would run a T/A Service from the airports mentioned ? Not with as you pointed out a 777.
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MOL will be looking at a number of aircraft, A330's, A340's, A350's and then B787, B747.8 and the B777. So who knows which one he will pick, EMA should also be on that list as they will be able to handle the B777, B787, A330 and A340
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A330's, A340's, A350's and then B787, B747.8 and the B777.
Racedo, The FR model works on high utilisation of aircraft and 25 min turnarounds. These don't seemingly mix with long haul ops. What could a Mol startup do that would be different from say Zoom?
he FR model works on high utilisation of aircraft and 25 min turnarounds. These don't seemingly mix with long haul ops. What could a Mol startup do that would be different from say Zoom?
In relation to the diff a FR start up (prob may not be MOL) V Zoom would be
1.) existing bases that would be used to feed into the T/A service
2.) exisiting bases that happy to start T/A services where none exist
3.) cash resources required for first 3 years as start up capital to survive.
4.) database of millions of existing customers
Chances of success are probably 50-50 maybe even less than that..
It would require separate company which doesn't take best people out of existing operation because the biggest risk to company would be taking best people for a startup and forgetting what is the bread and butter.
History is littered with examples where people forget about what brings in the money to concentrate on what looks exciting.
Of course options like ordering and paying for meal and drinks beforehand on line and other things like that can easily happen so 250 passengers with 100 different meal options are equally possible.
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That's quite a comprehensive statement. Fair play to by DAA considering the slating that MOL gives them. About time they grew a pair of b*lls. but for entertainment purposes I'm hoping that MOL comes back with something just for laughs.
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Actually given that BA seem to be in freefall, ( don't get me started on losing the free sarnie! ) and VS are not far behind, this *MAY* me a good time to test the water.
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The 747s did only fly four approx. four hours!
When comparing them to runways in London, Amsterdam etc. (even next door!) they are not the longest but I would say that they do suit the airports operations: short haul low cost.
When comparing them to runways in London, Amsterdam etc. (even next door!) they are not the longest but I would say that they do suit the airports operations: short haul low cost.
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DAA statement
Big talk for EI's b*tch. DAA need FR more than anybody. Why? EI are such a success transtlantic and expanding from Ireland. Oops i meant outside of the republic, culling transatlantic routes and starting to look like ENRON.
The DAA need to realise that even though its home turf for the flying harp, there are dispensable. Wheres the statement for the flying shambles sorry I mean shamrock???
The DAA are going to regret this, you don't pi** on one of your biggest if not the biggest customer and tell them it's rain.
The DAA need to realise that even though its home turf for the flying harp, there are dispensable. Wheres the statement for the flying shambles sorry I mean shamrock???
The DAA are going to regret this, you don't pi** on one of your biggest if not the biggest customer and tell them it's rain.
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The DAA need to realise that even though its home turf for the flying harp, there are dispensable.
You can't work for Ryanair Super 737, they've got a thicker skin than that! Good on them for speaking out, I doubt it ought to harm their relationship as they need each other.