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Harry palmer 17th November 2014 18:03

For those who have been through day one how long did you have to wait to hear the result of the aptitude tests?

Wirbelsturm 18th November 2014 09:12

Captains and SFO's get 'F' priority if not travelling with dependents under 12 years. 1 in the first 4 years (after 6 months) and 2 after that.

Onload priority on 'bookable' concessions is quite high, standard ID90's are even onload priority with all other departments with date of joining deciding who gets on first. Bookable does not mean you are guaranteed a seat/flight, you can always be bumped for commercial passengers.

Personally I use ST quite a bit and have found the staff and my colleagues on the aircraft to be most helpful.

4468 19th November 2014 23:20


Captains and SFO's get 'F' priority if not travelling with dependents under 12 years.
Really?

I thought SFOs were 'Club' priority?

Chief Brody 20th November 2014 07:07

Once you trigger the second bunch of 'management tickets' after 4 or 5 years one set are F class but with a reduced onload priority.

Ie you'll be in first if you get on but you stand less chance of getting on.

Kazak 20th November 2014 10:03

Assessment dates.
 
Hi,

I am wondering if anyone knows if and when more assessment dates are planned after the 04th December?

I have been invited for assessment, however my current roster will make it very difficult for me to attend on the dates given.

Thanking you in advance.

oscar2012 20th November 2014 15:32

Previous hold pooler
 
Just wondering if any guys previously in the hold pool who've applied have been contacted yet at all?

Hiltonharry 20th November 2014 20:10

As an aside question. Is there a medical examination prior to employment? I see you have to be able to satisfy the BA medical requirements.

backburner 20th November 2014 20:57

Cover letter
 
Hi guys, just wondering if anyone else has been asked to send in a cover letter. I cannot see where you would submit it via the recruitment and the email has not come from the normal email address.

I hope this isn't a mistake I have made! :eek:

Good luck to all

FlyingStone 21st November 2014 08:08

The guide said that you should upload CV and cover letter in a single file - Word, PDF, etc.

How long does it usually take to receive any answer from HR?

Reacher19 21st November 2014 08:33

Heard back within a week. Sadly, there appear to only be a limited number of test slots available and all on working days for me!

Superpilot 21st November 2014 09:45

Third time I'm asking :)....

Anyone know how many DEPs BA have hired since August 2014? Even better if someone can share stats on how many have been invited to Stage 1 since the same period. Curious to know.

Dr Esteban 22nd November 2014 08:51

Could anyone confirm whether British Airways require ALL logbooks to be shown or only more recent ones?

Many thanks!

wiggy 22nd November 2014 09:59

Superpilot
 

Anyone know how many DEPs BA have hired since August 2014?
I suspect only the BA manager directly involved knows that, he may or not pop here with an answer.

If simply want some indication of order of magnitude the last credible mention of numbers came up another place a few days back: There it was said that currently they are looking for 20'ish DEPs on the 787 and 60+'ish for the 744, and that the January courses were already "contracted", which I assume is recruitment speak for folks who have been informed and have signed on the line i.e. "hired". No mention of Shorthaul numbers but that wasn't the context of the "conversation" I was looking at, someone else might have those numbers.

Probably not exactly what you want but I hope that's of some help.

VJW 22nd November 2014 20:06

We were all asked to submit a cover letter with our CV as one PDF document. The fact it looks like you didn't but BA have contacted you asking for one, is a good sign, that while you didn't do it, they haven't rejected you...

Superpilot 22nd November 2014 22:26

Thanks wiggy

jimmyneutral 23rd November 2014 12:43

Has anyone who attended Day 2 last week heard anything yet? I know it's the weekend but possibly Friday?

happydays5 26th November 2014 08:08

Does anyone know any info about any rumours I've heard that reapplying to BA waiting time might go down from 12 to 6 months? Website seems to indicate that you can reapply after 6 months but 12 months if you've done any of the assessments..
Lots of people I know very keen to be reconsidered having not passed aptitude/interview/sims...

FlyingStone 26th November 2014 08:43

It seems to be true. Received PFO yesterday with the 6 months period mentioned...

RJ100 26th November 2014 12:35

Been told these were issued in error. New letters confirming 12 month wait to be sent out.

VJW 26th November 2014 13:52

Does anyone remember for the Flight director test, does it require the horizontal bar (the pitch bar) to be brought back to the centre using the reverse sense? Ie if the bar goes up, normally you'd pitch up to the FD bar, but in this test does it want you to pitch down?

looking for a break 26th November 2014 13:56

It's the opposite sense to the F/D! When's day one for you VJW?

Flying Wild 26th November 2014 16:11

How long has it been taking people to hear back after day 2? I have a feeling it won't be good news for me, but would be nice to be put out of my misery!

EMB-145LR 26th November 2014 16:57

Anyone else still waiting to hear back? I applied on day one of the non-type rated campaign. No PFO so far. I've been checking the careers site, my email and my junk folder every day! 3,000TT, most on jets, not typed on a Boeing or Airbus though.

Superpilot 26th November 2014 19:34

Guys, sorry to relay the news but I know of bus rated people applying over the last several weeks getting invites for just a week later. What this indicates despite the recruitment drive for the 777 and 747 I don't know...

VJW 26th November 2014 19:49

I'm 737 rated, applied on Nov 5th, invited to test email on Nov 10th..

SinBin 26th November 2014 20:05

From what I'm led to believe, on each stage, if it's a definite 'yes', it takes about 4/5 days, same for a definite 'no', if you're borderline there is a further papersifting process, which can take longer. The guys and girls are, I hear, rather swamped with applications at the moment so I guess this may be taking the process a little longer to sort. Don't lose hope just yet.

Borg 26th November 2014 22:27

BA Direct Entry Pilot.
 
Flying Wild; it took a day for them to get back to me with some good news after day 2. Best of luck

Hiltonharry 27th November 2014 15:30

Hi superpilot

I'm not sure where your train of thought is with the info? Just you say sorry to relay the news.

fruitbat 27th November 2014 15:34

The results of Crystal were released today.

It shows 310 new pilot positions for 2015. Included in this are 30 DEP positions on the 787 and 80 on the 747. These LH positions will be in the first half of 2015.

Superpilot 27th November 2014 15:42

I was thinking that some non-bus candidates may be leading themselves into thinking that because BA have opened applications to non-bus rated, they would be in line for an invite pretty soon.

I know it's not that clear cut but this is mostly due to having learned and also having a pprune member from a major Boeing operator tell me that in the region of 20 non-bus rated individuals from his outfit have applied but not had any kind of response.

Yet, I know of bus rated people applying in the last 2-3 weeks who are getting invites just a week later. Bus people who applied after many non-bus people that is.

Hope that makes sense.

EMB-145LR 27th November 2014 21:46

It's common sense that Bus rated candidates would be called ahead of non rated guys, even if they have applied at a later date than the non type rated candidates. However, claiming to relay bad news, when you are not employed by BA and you're purely speculating strikes me as being a little unnecessary.

As a non type rated applicant I am more than aware that I am bottom of the pile when it comes to getting a call. However, PFOs have been coming to some and not others, so I was merely trying to ascertain whether any non rated applicants had been invited to attend day one so far.

Best of luck to everyone still in the process. I'd be delighted to get a call, but there is some very capable competition out there, many much more qualified than I.

Superpilot 27th November 2014 22:11


It's common sense that Bus rated candidates would be called ahead of non rated guys
Despite the news that 50% of recruitment is now for Boeing fleets?

Just saying what I'm seeing/hearing. Take my point of view as you like old bean! Best of luck.

Iver 28th November 2014 02:45

Why so many openings on the Dreamliner and the Whale? I guess I thought eligible people on the Bus or 737-400 might be interested in a change....

wiggy 28th November 2014 07:42

Basically it's down to training capacity.

There are plenty within BA who want to move short haul to long haul but each such a move generates two training courses....one for the guy/ girl doing the move from the bus/737 to the Long haul type, and then another for the new entrant to replace him/ her on the short haul type.

Recruiting externally means just one course (for the new entrant). As a result internal transfers have effectively been capped and there is DEP recruitment for some of the vacancies onto the 787 and the 744.

Of course this policy understandably isn't going down well in some quarters but it is covered by existing agreements with the union and it has happened before.

I think the fact BA is planning on outsourcing some of the training to CTC (including some internal transfers) shows how stretched BA's training system is going to be next year.

Stage5 28th November 2014 10:25

As wiggy said training capacity is the issue. Around 1000 conversion courses were initially planned! All at a time that Sims are being transferred out of brainbank and into TBA, with an extra requirement for trainers etc etc. The number of courses had to be reduced to make it manageable. The only fleet to see a freeze waiver is the 737 as it is being retired in any case. The 320 fleet and others were not so fortunate.
All DEP LH to the first half of the year to make the 320 trg programme manageable with a number of 78s arriving in quick succession in the later half of next year.
FPP courses delayed due to extra training footprint. So if 777/787/744/320 rated, the outlook is good for a potential shorter wait in the 'submitted' category. A bit of an exceptional year it would seem.

Hiltonharry 1st December 2014 14:26

Are there any technical questions in the interview? Type rated

Pork chop express 1st December 2014 15:03

Nope. Mostly competency based give an example of when......:ok:

Hiltonharry 1st December 2014 15:16

Thanks Pork Chop!

BugSpeed 8th December 2014 11:05

Hi All,

Anybody have a sim ride on 5th Jan?

pilot3103 9th December 2014 08:36

Hi there, does anyone know where to park when you attend the day one at Waterside please? Thanks for your help


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