Before Christmas they were giving 3rd 4th 5th but don't know now.

Can anybody recommend a software, that reflects the currently used aptitude tests?

The daily mail crossword and suduko.

Does anyone have any serious and sensible answers, please?

Quite right Deano777......

What Bex meant to say was The Times crossword and suduko

:) Happy New Year y'all

Bex's suggestions are actually not unreasonable...

Given that a RAF Eurofighter pilot failed and a useless, talentless, personality challenged nob in a LoCo passed I think BEX is spot on. Yep, bitter and twisted.

Oh dear. WhyByFlier/BlackandBrown got in!?!?

Can't comment on the LoCo guy, perhaps he's got a good act in the sim, but:

Hate to say it but the ability to fly a rather challenging single seat aircraft may not be a particularly good indicator as to how you're going to perform in a crew environment.

One of the most "difficult" :ugh: student QFI's I ever had the pleasure to instruct came from a single seat background - absolutely ace pilot, on the numbers and all that but boy did he know it and he had absolutely no empathy or patience with a struggling (simulated) "Bloggs" :}...

There's a reason why there's a aviation drinking song with the line:

"You can tell a fighter pilot but you can't tell him much".

That said a lot of ex-FJ pilots have successfully made it into BA over the years, but I'm guessing they didn't bring their TopGun act to the assessment sim.

Re: Sudoku. Anyone thinking there is anything that is in the least bit mathematic about it are dead wrong. It is pure logic. You could have pictures of nine different types of dogs to replace numbers for instance and it would still be exactly the same task/challenge. Thread drift sorry but wanted to make the point.

Having said that logical reasoning still very good to practice!

Does anyone else have their BA SIM check in the first week of Feb? Would be handy to find my partner.

Thanks Permafrost!

Might as well ask a little more if so many of you have done the assessments..

Is it "just" quick mental arithmetic and aptitude tests on these assessments or am I right in brushing up on line equations, trigonometry and algebra?

If anyone remembers the hardest question they encountered that would be great. Seem to be more about double digit multiplication than 3x - 4y = 1 type stuff??!

Is anyone still waiting to hear if they get in an interview ?

Any rumour on when the next recruitment drive might be?

Hi MEG@DK

There are a few books on amazon for numerical reasoning which reflect the kind of questions I had in 2012. It's pretty basic maths, no algebra as far as I remember. Fractions, percentages, ratio, area of rectangles and circles, Pythagoras, long division. Basic GCSE stuff.

Example: A man buys four fence posts for £40.75. They were reduced in a sale by 17.5%. How much was one fence post before the sale.

There is around 25 questions to be completed in a tight time frame so just practice lots of questions with about 30 seconds per question.

Does anyone have some more info regarding the multi tasking aptitude test with the ECAM and TCAS? Any tips would be much appreciated!

An important point! I am not an ex-FJ pilot, but I am ex-AAR/AT, and my research at the time showed that there was a 'game to be played' on both the interview/assessment day, and the simulator day. As expected! Of course, any former ASCOT callsign types will have already had exposure to the multi-crew environment, and a chance to practise and hone their own methods of working in 2, 3 or 4 crew flight-deck environments. But even some of them they do not make it in to BA, so there are no guarantees.

Consequently, it is up to everyone to do their homework, and there is plenty that can be done, before attending for DEP entry. So, whilst everyone needs to freshen up their 'act' for a job interview/assessment, as Wiggy suggests, perhaps it is up to some of the ex-FJ folk to look deeper into the corners they haven't given much consideration before?

Anyone have their sim ride 17th Jan?
 

Does anyone have their sim ride 17th Jan? If so drop me a private message.

Thanks.

Thanks for the example Peacekeeper

DEPs for -400 still required a little bird said today.

Does the little bird know how many are needed this year? What about the other fleets?

Lots required. Heard other airlines have been contacted for possible help.

If true, then more fool them for turning down so many seriously good people/pilots with their bonkers assessment.

Thanks for that life commentary. Saved BA a about nano second anyway. I'm sure you're a well rounded lovely bloke/lady who would pull his/her weight during a hefty delay with angry (pyscho?) passengers.

Thank the gods! Doing 45 block hours this month, could do with the time away. Catch you on another thread. This is to do with BA recruitment which you've made quite clear...wouldn't suit you. No need to waist any more of your nano seconds contributing to it.

Oh come on OBK! let us display our bitterness just a little. I spent 3 weeks preparing for the assessment and used every damn spare hour of the day. I spent over £200 on books, practice tests and software. Despite this I failed stage 1. Statistically speaking, I've passed most of the assessments I've attended. It's just that the jobs end up being in god forsaken parts of the world that I end up running away from. Happy where I am now (first time at home in 4 years of flying commercially), though BA would've been better! :ok:

Sick
I thought BA simply moved their business to another provider?

Are you saying your previous company couldn't drum up any business other than BA's?

No wonder BA moved their business!

I got a call up for stage 1. Yay.
I may have missed it, but can candidates park their car at the Waterside Center?
The confirmation letter only mentions the bus.

"The confirmation letter only mentions the bus"

Do you think there might just be a subtle clue enclosed within that message?

No JW411, I don't.

Hey Buzz

Best to get the bus, i turned up in the car thinking i am at BA HQ of course i can park! Managed to talk my way in eventually but no there is no parking although surprisingly there were loads of spaces when i went to the car park!! :E:ok:

Wingedwilliam

I was told: 80 DEP for 747 and a total across all fleets of 311 in 2015.

To be fair, the parking (or lack of) and transport options are well covered in the pre-assessment info sent out...

Over-prepping for stage 1 may be counter-productive, for the aptitude tests at least. I'm pretty sure part of the aptitude testing looks at improvement/learning curve - if you've overprepared on similar (or identical) tests you might be very good at them but show no trend in improvement. Maths/verbal is obviously different and preparation helps a lot.

On the subject of the BA assessment as a whole - there is enough info out there, all relatively easy to access, about the format and even quite a bit of the detail. Combine this with a reasonable dose of the character traits BA want and a bit of luck (like with any assessment process) and you should do well. Yes, there's a bit of game playing (I see this more as proper preparation) but where isn't there? I didn't get in a few years ago - it was lack of proper prep (for the sim stage mostly) and a bit of bad luck. This time I prepped properly and got in. If writing a couple of essay answers to questions and doing a bit of research in preparation is too much effort, why should BA give you a job? I don't think BA is for everyone but after putting in a lot of thought I came to the conclusion that BA would be a good move for me...so prepared accordingly. There's no guarantees of course but you can very much weight the chances of success in your favour with the right homework.

I wasn't bitter last time when it didn't work out because (a) I could have prepared better and (b) it's BA's train set - they can recruit who they like and are obviously happy with the end results of selection or it would be changed.

In all honesty this thread could have no more contributions and be closed now - applicants would still have everything they needed to properly prepare and do well. It's all already here (and in other threads). It just involves sitting down with a beer or cuppa and putting the time in to read it rather than repeat the same questions - the assessment hasn't essentially changed in years.

Good luck! :)

Anyone who went for assessment early this week pass? Not got any dates open to book for interview.

Yes in the same boat: there were two adjacent days but were not compatable with my roster so was waiting to see if more would be released, as my next roster had not been released. Those dates quickly disappeared! Contemplating contacting them but might just sit patiently and see if more become available online soon.

I just called them they just said none are open yet, but just to keep logging in. I wonder if they are just waiting for enough to pass latest assessments and move onto next stage.

The first 747 DEPs are battling with ground school this week, they'll be on the line in late Feb.

I would advise taking whatever measures you can to make a sim slot, I took a view on it when I got my date and (ahem) made sure I was there. BA is all about getting your seniority number. Delay now could cost you dear in years to come.

Thanks itsnotwhoyouknow, I've been checking like a neurotic!
Overstress thanks for the advice, that was in the back of my mind but I just wanted a tad bit more time as well to prepare. Next slot released I'll jump at!!

Part year/Part Time working
 

Apologies if this has come up in another thread but I've been through most of them about BA and could only find a little info.

I know part time working is available within BA, but is part year working available? Essentially unpaid leave during winters etc.

I know BA's operation is much less seasonal than some of the charter operators, but I was just wondering if its an option?

Any help appreciated.

Not to my knowledge.

They may offer unpaid leave if over crewed, but probably not for the foreseeable.