Point taken, still beats the dole queue though and in my own case at least, it's not for twenty or thirty years, more like nine or ten. I can think of worse places to sail off into the sunset, assuming I could ever get past selection.:eek:

Expect nothing, then you are never disappointed.

I didn't realise Vueling operated long haul? Or can you transfer between the two?

AFAIK they don't do LH.
Always willing to be corrected though. :sad:

The 'rumour' within the company is that DEP direct to LH will be going ahead.

No ideas on when or what fleet.

:ok:

The rumour is also that the last recruitment drive attracted approximately 250 applications! way way down on expected numbers. Internal voices have been talking about 200+ pilots required next year.

It is good to finally see some job creation. Hopefully this will give opportunities to anyone who has found themselves on the receiving end of a "we regret to inform you letter"

I have found myself guilt of moaning about BA to my family but honestly these point of contention have been bought about by BALPA. BA is still a great place to work even though it can be a lonely one.

only 250? looks like a real small number.
On my side, applied in august, still no answer.

As someone else mentioned a few posts ago, DEP recruitment direct to LH is currently planned for rated 747-400 pilots.

Hi all, could I please have an updated figure of the average monthly salary (net, in your pocket) as a new entrant on BA longhaul.
Thanks

£3500 a month base and with duty pay say 4k and you should be about right. Probably a touch more.

Starting base pay is just under 52k but those tables don't include the latest pay desk. FPA is around £600 per month LH. It's the most up to date info I can find and is rounded up or down as appropriate. Do they not tell you this when applying?

Eaglesnest1972. Came from a reliable source and I think this is why the window was extended and requirements lowered. The monarch situation I am sure has changed things

If that figure is correct for the recent number of applicants is there a good chance they will open DEP Non Rated recruitment?

ok, £4000 a month net. Thanks bex

Pass I don't know about non rated. I think the only thing preventing it is training capacity.

I would agree with Bex88 however, DEP has, historically, been a much lower training risk as the applicants are generally filtered at the interview/sim stage.

Hence I would suggest that non-type rated applicants can be fed through to fleets with a higher training capacity without a problem eg. A380 (if previous airbus experienced),747 and 787. There is also the A350 possibly coming and it would make sense to queue up future training assets to that fleet if the applicants have either SH Airbus or A330 experience.

My personal opinion is that the 777 has too much of an internal applicant backlog to allow DEP however no one can ever second guess what IAG/BA will do and it's their train set after all.

Hi folks,
Any news for the 320 dep?

Does anyone know how many have actually been offered A320 RHS since August 2014?

As for me no answer (yes/maybe/pfo) since application.
I am sure they will answer.
I just understood from the beginning that it was going to be a fast thing.
My guess now is that BA will wait until the deadline for former military pilots will expire (today), then they will start to answer back.
My guess of course.
We'll see:sad:

Would anyone have an insight into the likely pool of applicants for the longhaul vacancies? Typically is there a large number willing to take the paycut to come from the UAE? I imagine a lot of the Norwegian Air Shuttle 787/777 rated guys would be interested but are still under their 3 year bond. Do BA consider paying bonds for successful candidates?

Widebdy,

I suppose it depends upon the amount of suitable applicants. If BA can't fill the recruitment slots then they will have to look at alternative means. Although I must admit I have never heard of such a move as paying bonds but what goes on behind the scenes is anyone's guess.

AFAIK DEP to LH will be onto the 744 which BA will keep running longer than anticipated.

No longer recruiting for Airbus?
 

I have noticed the recruitment has been extended until 6th October.
However, I also notice that it is only for 747,767,777 and 787.

Has the A320 recruitment finished or is it a clitch with the website?
I was rejected by online assessment as, I have no time on any of the above.
I do however, have 4000 hrs on the A320/A321.

Any thoughts most appreciated.

Smokie,

did you apply also for the 320 DEP?

Outcome?

The website shows only for 747,767,777 & 787.:hmm:

Ok, thanks.
I thought you applied also for the 320 DEP (expired the 18th september).
Regards.

Which was why I was asking ......:{

Sorry for that mate:sad:

So, still no hope for 737 rated guys. I'm sure that allows for ZFTT though?

Fingers crossed requirements change...

Yep, looks like Ive missed out this time around too, just hope they need more Bus Drivers :ok:

Ad states 747-400. Does this rule out 747-800 pilots?

What about 757 pilots for the 767 jobs? A one day differences course surely...

747-8 is not a type. The EASA licensed 747-8 crew have 747-400 ratings. It is merely a differences course to operate the 747-8.

AFAIK this is not the case in Korea as it is considered an individual type.

One of the requirements is an EASA / JAR FCL licence.

Is this a problem for those in the middle east with locally issued licences and ratings, eg. GCAA in the UAE.

I suppose you will have to take everything back to the UK before starting (if selected).
Not a big issue IMHO.
Best:ok:

With regards to ratings issued by another ICAO member state.
When i joined, it was a condition for me to get the rating endorsed on my JAR/EASA license, prior to joining.
Unfortunately there is no good reason for this, as they make you sit all the exams again...

It was a bit of an issue for me. First of all getting the time off to do it, when living in the ME, and then not to mention the cost involved in having to resit the exams in the UK, as well as paying for 4 hours in the sim with an examiner...


BTW seems like they have just opened up for A320 rated pilots again.

Thanks for the heads up. Doesn't seem to be any link to click on as previously for the Boeing positions though. But I see A320 is now added to the list of types.

Perhaps I am not on the correct page?
Tried all my usual searches but to no avail, has it gone live yet?

You're looking on the wrong page. You can't apply as a 320 rated person yet. Here's the page you're after.

http://www.britishairways.com/career...rchtext=Pilots

Many thanks. I have added the page to my home screen, will wait for it to go live with A320 added. :O

So what happened to the ad expired on the 18th for 320 dep's?
I applied for that but never had any feedback from BA.
Weird...

The last few lines of this page though states:
The Direct Entry (DEP) recruitment programme - We are now accepting applications for the following;
A320 type rated and B747-400/767/777/787 type rated.


http://www.britishairways.com/career...rypilots.shtml


I know a number of rated people who appiied for the A320 job that had a cut off of last week and have heard nothing.

I am one of them.
Applied in august, cutoff 5 days ago, no reply.
I think its BA policy to answer anyway so i am confident.
Sooner or later we'll get an answer.

All

As I understand it BA are gagging for pilots, particularly A320 pilots, and there is likely to be alot of upset chief pilots at the Low Cost Airlines next year when their pilots start handing in their notices prior to the summer season. I think the 250 required pilots mentioned earlier may be an under-estimation. I believe the 320 programme for next year will be considerabley greater than this year. This means that as well as the need for new recruits due to this expansion there will be many new 320 commands freeing up LH right seat slots for SH copilots inturn opening up their seats for more new recruits. Those starting courses at the end of this year will be 1/3 to 1/2 way up the 320 seniority list by the end of next year. Not a bad place to be.

BA will be looking for 747 pilots for next year hence the new LH campaign. They will probably not require 767, 777 or 787 pilots to fly those types (although not yet finalised) but will use those with LH experience to fly the 747s. It is unlikely there will be enough quality 747 applicants to fill the required slots. Those going straight onto LH will be at the bottom of thier seniority list for quite a while but you will have the benefit of the LH lifestyle.

BA will not compromise on the quality of recruits in order to take people with the right type rating. So if enough suitable candidates cannot be found from the present campaigns expect to see A330/340 ratings added to the list, then 737 then finally NTRs. Its done in this way to avoid the recruitment dept being inundated with applications.

For those waiting for replies please remember there are only a couple of guys/girls in the pilot recruitment department. They run the ads, screen the applications, organise the recruitment days, answer emails and phone calls from people like me as well as fitting in a little time to go flying. They will answer all applications, just be patient.

Regards and good luck

P.S. the LH ad now includes the 757, not in the title but the body of the ad.

A Colleague of mine informed me today that he has passed his assesment earlier on today and is waiting for a date for the Sim assessment. I wish him well.
His experience is BAe 146, Emb 190 and 6 months on the A320 we both started in April on our present contract, so I guess he has about 400 hrs A320.

Myself, I have 4000 hrs A320/321 with two previous companies, plus 350 ( more sectors but not as many hours) with present company.
See what happens :ok:

Thanks to binsleepen,

as always valuable infos from you:ok:
Really surprised to hear that all applications are handled by only 2 employees.
Though BA recruitment dept was huge:}