Wot stocious said.

They have never offered part year work. If "they" realise at some point the program will support standing people down on unpaid leave on an ad hoc basis they will do it, on a month by month basis, but don't plan on it or rely on it because it is not contractural. OTOH the part time contracts have a more rigid rule set.

Has anybody got any good websites or names of books for the type of numerical questions we face in the assessment, or info on the current capacity tests? Assessment in a few weeks.

Thanks in advance.

I think you've got to bid for part time working, so it's done in seniority order, if it's available. There's probably some basic experience requirements too.

Practice area calculations in shapes, fractions, addition, multiplication, subtraction, division. If I remember correctly, there quite a lot of working out areas in shapes, quick divisions, etc but I did it 4 + years ago. There are some really time consuming questions, and I left those well alone.

Are the maths questions exactly the same than 4 years ago or did they change their database?

Correct, and AFAIK nobody is getting "aspirational" part time until late summer/autumn because of manning levels.

Whereas RTR part time is available pretty quickly, so if you have kids under 18 it's readily available.

The Aspirational Part Time at BA is either 1 month on, 1 off, or 2 on, 1 off. Is means large blocks of time off year round, so a great contract!

I am a 75% Part Time Long Haul SFO at BA (21 on, 7 off) and love it!

It's the standard BA advice, but here EVERYTHING is done on seniority, so get in at the earliest opportunity. If you are coming here, you are coming for a full career, so take the earliest offered course, rather than hold out for one you really want.

P T G

Absolutely agree re seniority. I joined BA during the big recruiting push of the very late '80s. I took a month out between leaving my old employers and joining BA and I reckon that cost me around 50 - 70 places in terms of seniority and probably at least 6 months in time to command. That's not a big deal, because there are some real horror stories - if you find yourself just the wrong side of the divide if the music stops due to unforeseen circumstances you can find that a delay in getting a joining date can cost you dear...

Re 'seasonal'. At the risk of stating the (very) obvious, this is a scheduled airline. Granted there are summer and winter schedules, but what is winter in N Hemisphere.... you get the idea. Businessmen travel all year round, BA wants to make money by selling business seats to the USA and all round the world. You'd be surprised if you knew BA's most single profitable destination!

Having said that there are charter flights as well but these also go on all year round.

Sad :(
 

18 months in the holdpool, 2 years wait for it re-opening, then 3 months solid work .... and there's the PFO - :ugh:

I've been invited to interview but no slots are available (been the case for days now). I continue to receive the automated reminder emails. Assuming everyone upto the interview stage is experiencing the same?

About 10 crews worth of 744 flying being ditched, to be replaced largely by about 6 crews worth of 777 flying.

In these days of cheap oil, one might reasonably ask why this is happening?

(This before we 'parked' a 777 into a hangar!)

So what will happen to all those offered 747 courses? Are some still going on to it or are they going to go to the 777 instead?

Is it the same story for the Planned Airbus courses after April? Would it indicate swimming again for those successful in the Sim from this point on?

I don't mean to be rude guys - I know this is a rumour network and everything. Any chance you could keep it to facts rather than conjecture please? I'm starting in a few weeks on the 747, and really don't want to be hearing that the massive plunge I have taken in resigning my current position could be changing into something completely different, unless it really is going to happen.

i think your place on the 747 should be safe, but you might not get the relative seniority cushion you were expecting

anson

Keeping it to 'facts'!

You've accepted a job with British Airways. Any time for the next 5 years, (including the period before you join) BA have every right to decide on which fleet you will fly.

But of course you knew that already!

Of course I knew that - I just wasn't expecting it to change before the first 5 minutes have elapsed.
I'm just asking for people to bear in mind that for some of us, a lot hangs on any changes to what has been offered and perhaps bear that in mind before presenting unknowns as hard facts.
Thanks.

Seems like this is a fairly significant change of plans for BA. Any ideas what's behind it?

anson
Mate, you're joining(?) British Airways. The only 'factual' information you will ever receive is what happened yesterday!

EVERYTHING else is somebody's guess, based on somebody's estimate, built on somebody's prediction, predicated on the whim of an idiot! Once a butterfly flaps it's wings in Mongolia, the whole plan is sewage!

Recent history shows us our union is the same!

Please forgive those here attempting to pass on the most ACCURATE timely information to anyone interested. Something you object to, just because it gives you indigestion!

CC

The answer you are seeking may well be found in the relationship between BA and CTC, which was to provide a significant proportion of Airbus training!

Reading this thread, forget "horses for courses" it really has become "whores for courses".... I can smell the ambition & desperation from here. I used to work for BA, I left back in 97, too many "arse crawler" PC types even then. The sages are right, it's certainly not for everybody!

I've been looking but can't find it. Can anyone post the pp34 scales in full? The current overtime rates? Etc

Ppjn is not too helpful.

Thanks

Are you implying that CTC are now not providing a significant proportion of the Airbus training?

Yes, a bit cryptic that, 4468! Care to elaborate?

Whatever has caused the re-calculation, there are now 100 less pilots required for this year, so more like 200 new entrant spots rather than the 300-odd previously planned. That's pretty much the gist of it. Apparently.



Until they change their minds on Monday/1st week of April/whenever. If you already have a start date I wouldn't worry too much. Probably.:hmm:

Easy5072,

New interview slots have been released today.

Does this change in required numbers have anything to do with the new crew optimiser software 'Crystal'?

How many have been offered a position/start date so far and how many can BA train a month?

BA 2015
 

Does that indicate a return of the hold pool and its 12 month limit?

Anyone who attended stage 2 this week heard anything yet?

I have my Stage 1 assessment day coming up. Just trying to get up to speed on my mental maths. Anything in particular I should be looking to focus on? Long division, area of circles, squares, triangles etc? Any trigonometry or algebra? Can anyone recommend any practice sites?

EMB145 there's plenty of guidance if you just look.

OBK! granted this is true. However, much of it is well over ten years old now and it would seem the process has changed quite a bit. I was wondering if this extended to the maths portion too.

EMB-145LR

See post #978 or latestpilotjobs.com and pay them £20ish for pretty good info on the whole process. It's nothing you won't find here though.

The maths is pretty basic stuff, just not enough time to finish the paper, so choose the easier to calculate questions.

Sim assessment Feb
 

Anyone managed to get a sim slot at the beginning/middle of February?

Drop me a line!

Right to work document?
 

Does anybody know if there is an actual "right to work document" for a European Citizen (i.e. some physical document or form), or could a passport from a European member state be considered as a "right to work document" in itself?

Direct entry pilot.

How can there be a non-direct entry pilot?

Via Tesco?

Know what you mean.....FWIW historically it's been used by BA to describe anyone who hasn't joined through one of it's cadet schemes.

Fantom
 

You may have hit on something here.

How about if flight schools and low cost airlines put those scratch card things by the tills in Tesco?

You know, just like "Nando's", "O2" and others do?

But, instead of denominations starting at £10, these pay to fly cards could begin at £110,000. Of course, there would be some glossy photos of Ray-bans and perhaps an aspirational sponsored advert from a local Porsche garage.

Of course, such a card couldn't be used to purchase a career in BA.

Or could it?

I was very surprised to hear from several Aer Berlin FO's that they have all been sent an email offering them an assessment with BA for a minimum two year contract on the 747 or 777.
Anyone know of a similar deal for UK pilots with Lufthansa?:*

That's odd. Surely it seems to conflict with the info from the current BA guys a page back about reduced 744 recruitment need?

Is this verified? Sounds a little like Chinese whispers. Probably more to it in reality.

What about the BA scope agreement?