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hunterboy 11th August 2018 14:49

Good advice above. I know it is obvious to most, but some may need reminding that this is only a way of earning to money to live. If you can make the job work for you and enjoy it at the same time, then you will never work a day in your life.
BA isn’t for everybody. Those that are here seem to enjoy the job, or at least pretend to. The only problem is spending too much time at work enjoying yourself. Hence the old cliché of the BA skipper on his/her third spouse. It can be difficult holding down a home life as the long haul part of the job is great fun, if tiring, staying in pretty decent hotels with like-minded people, especially now legacy crews are on the decline. The danger is it is possible to treat the job as one long holiday, to the detriment of loved ones at home.

Serenity 12th August 2018 07:25

Has the latest open vacancy advert closed already??

wiggy 12th August 2018 08:17


Originally Posted by hunterboy (Post 10220858)
The only problem is spending too much time at work enjoying yourself. Hence the old cliché of the BA skipper on his/her third spouse. It can be difficult holding down a home life as the long haul part of the job is great fun, if tiring, staying in pretty decent hotels with like-minded people, especially now legacy crews are on the decline. The danger is it is possible to treat the job as one long holiday, to the detriment of loved ones at home.




I’m hoping the above is slightly TIC, at least in part...I know it can be “fun” at times but I don’t think I’ve heard the day stop DXB being described as fun, there are other some real "bullets" with almost minimum rest, and the joys of one or two of our ME/African slips....As to the “like minded people” :)..well if it is who I am thinking of they can be a breath of fresh air but they can also sometimes produce some real "duty of care" issues for the senior managers on the crew, who have been known to end up sorting out problems with management and/or medics and/or others at oh’dark thirty in the morning...

I would however agree on balance Long Haul is isn’t a bad gig, and certainly better than SH at BA but it’s not all a bed of roses, and BTW top tip - the trick to being a BA skipper on their first marriage after 30 plus years (and despite rumours and stereotyping there are a lot of us about) is not doing anything stupid and not going home and telling the other half what a fantastic time you just had.. .






bex88 12th August 2018 08:26

I have been pretty negative on BA SH and there are good reasons for that. I then asked myself what is it that I do not like? Is it that I don’t like my job or is it that I just have a really good home life? The problems here are little more than delays due to ATC in Europe, workload and rostering due to a error in manpower planning and BALPA selling out SH to protect LH. A quote from a friend of mine on LH. “Nobody gives a sh&t about SH, it’s never even talked about other than to say they are never going back”. Something has to change. I know a number of captains who are considering going RHS LH to escape. If you only desire SH and being at home BA is not it, if you want options then that’s very different.

It’s easy to piss and moan from a privileged position but on balance there are jobs I have had which I would love to go back too, but BA whilst not perfect is not bad enough to leave either and if JSS destroys my home life (probable) then there are options such as part time.......which I understand Klaus hates and wants to stamp out, or ditching the 4th stripe for RHS LH.

Applications closed? Probably......remember how keen we all used to be.

RexBanner 12th August 2018 15:04


Originally Posted by bex88 (Post 10221371)
there are options such as part time.......which I understand Klaus hates and wants to stamp out

Klaus can go screw himself. By law BA has to provide part time options. Rather than bitch and moan about it he should consider why so many people (including myself, a soon to be PP4 SH FO and about to put the RTR request in as soon as some home renovations are made) feel they have to go part time in order to make life work..

hunterboy 12th August 2018 16:04

I gather the rumours about restricting part time were to restrict the current numbers. This would mean new part timers having to wait until an existing part timer retired or gave it up. Apparently some other countries run it that way?
Wiggy....it was slightly tongue in cheek.....I was having a good day....usually I’m the guy that retires early to bed to “chill and watch some Netflix”....I manage to avoid the duty of care stuff as I’m nowhere to be seen......:)

wiggy 12th August 2018 16:33


.I manage to avoid the duty of care stuff as I’m nowhere to be seen......https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/smile.gif
very wise.....:ok:

RexBanner 12th August 2018 17:36


Originally Posted by hunterboy (Post 10221725)
I gather the rumours about restricting part time were to restrict the current numbers. This would mean new part timers having to wait until an existing part timer retired or gave it up.


On a temporary basis whilst the crew numbers are low it’s probably the current score until they’ve got more people in but as a permanent long term policy they’d be on an extremely sticky wicket trying that. I’d guess that rumour will remain unrealised.



hunterboy 12th August 2018 17:56

Hopefully the new p/t options with JSS will help with any problems of p/t availability.

JPJP 14th August 2018 02:24


Originally Posted by RexBanner (Post 10221683)


Klaus can go screw himself. By law BA has to provide part time options. Rather than bitch and moan about it he should consider why so many people (including myself, a soon to be PP4 SH FO and about to put the RTR request in as soon as some home renovations are made) feel they have to go part time in order to make life work..


Wow.

The name ‘Klaus’ is very familiar. I thought that it couldn’t possibly be the same one. It is. And the same trail spreads itself across three countries, and four airlines.

It’s an ill wind that blows.






SandwichOfficer 20th August 2018 15:30

Another email today from BA asking me to book my interview, but still no slots - I checked 1 hour after the email was sent. Were there any available today?

Thegreenmachine 20th August 2018 16:09


Originally Posted by SandwichOfficer (Post 10228987)
Another email today from BA asking me to book my interview, but still no slots - I checked 1 hour after the email was sent. Were there any available today?

Checked this morning myself and didn’t have any available.

SandwichOfficer 20th August 2018 16:56


Originally Posted by kendrick47247 (Post 10229024)


was that for an interview slot or a sim slot?

interview slot

clvf88 20th August 2018 17:35


Originally Posted by SandwichOfficer (Post 10228987)
Another email today from BA asking me to book my interview, but still no slots - I checked 1 hour after the email was sent. Were there any available today?

Did stage II at the beginning of July. I've logged in to check literally hundreds of times between now and then but no sim slots available.

Thegreenmachine 20th August 2018 18:25


Originally Posted by kendrick47247 (Post 10229024)


was that for an interview slot or a sim slot?

Apologies. Yes I’m waiting to book a sim, not an interview.

g118 20th August 2018 21:30


Originally Posted by clvf88 (Post 10229081)
Did stage II at the beginning of July. I've logged in to check literally hundreds of times between now and then but no sim slots available.

Same situation. It seems No slots have been loaded yet.

Raven86 20th August 2018 23:58

Stage 2 interview
 
Hi all,

i have passed stage 1 and will be hopefully booking stage 2 very soon. Has anyone passed/gone through stage 2 and could offer some insight, particularly on the personal interview?
much appreciated.

Mansnothot 21st August 2018 12:06


Originally Posted by SandwichOfficer (Post 10228987)
Another email today from BA asking me to book my interview, but still no slots - I checked 1 hour after the email was sent. Were there any available today?

Its an automated system mate, there haven’t been any sim slots released for at least 5 weeks. Only 1 slot opened up for the 21st of August because a guy I know cancelled his. And it was gone in a minute. Just keep checking!

cycles gladiator 22nd August 2018 08:41

Some slots out for September.

Mansnothot 22nd August 2018 13:42


Originally Posted by cycles gladiator (Post 10230383)
Some slots out for September.

Yeah got a text from my mate this morning, luckily got myself booked in for 13/9. Happy days. Hope you all got a date in too!

g118 22nd August 2018 20:19


Originally Posted by cycles gladiator (Post 10230383)
Some slots out for September.

:ok: Good luck to everyone in the process, last step. Anyone with info on how long is the wait in the pool.

Mansnothot 23rd August 2018 07:35


Originally Posted by g118 (Post 10230977)


:ok: Good luck to everyone in the process, last step. Anyone with info on how long is the wait in the pool.

Ive heard there’s currently about 40 people in the pool and they will only be in there while they get dates and classes formed.

2 Whites 2 Reds 23rd August 2018 08:51


Originally Posted by g118 (Post 10230977)


:ok: Good luck to everyone in the process, last step. Anyone with info on how long is the wait in the pool.

According to recent internal comms, the hold pool has been emptied, refilled, emptied again and is gradually being added to. In short, the demand is definitely there so I would expect a short dip in the pond if that. I think it's purely a training capacity issue.

Best of luck!

klm1234 23rd August 2018 10:50

How long did it take to get the results of stage 2 ?

clvf88 23rd August 2018 10:54


Originally Posted by klm1234 (Post 10231387)
How long did it take to get the results of stage 2 ?

1 week, to the day.

Raven86 23rd August 2018 10:56


Originally Posted by clvf88 (Post 10231389)
1 week, to the day.


could you guys guys shed any light on stage 2?

Raven86 23rd August 2018 13:33


Originally Posted by kendrick47247 (Post 10231461)
Got an email this morning apologizing for the delay of the result of stage 2, and to expect it by tomorrow at the latest (did stage 2 last tuesday)

how did it go Kendrick?

Danny212 30th August 2018 11:31

Any junior FO's SH care to share current take home pay? I know its variable based on X, Y and Z. But a rough figure would be great based on the summer months.

Enzo999 30th August 2018 11:36


Originally Posted by Danny212 (Post 10237278)
Any junior FO's SH care to share current take home pay? I know its variable based on X, Y and Z. But a rough figure would be great based on the summer months.

About £4500 to £4700 in busy summer months, £3900 to £4100 in quieter months. (Little over time included in these figures, LHR FO year 2).

Danny212 30th August 2018 11:57


Originally Posted by Enzo999 (Post 10237283)


About £4500 to £4700 in busy summer months, £3900 to £4100 in quieter months. (Little over time included in these figures, LHR FO year 2).

Really appreciated that! Thanks!!

SK1 30th August 2018 12:32

What about the average take home pay for a LH FO?

captain.weird 30th August 2018 12:58

A380 only possible for 320 rated guys? Or also nonrated?

Stocious 30th August 2018 17:45


Originally Posted by SK1 (Post 10237323)
What about the average take home pay for a LH FO?

Basic pay at PP1 is identical, but you'll earn more in TAFB payments (Time away from base). How much more you'll take home as a result is dependent on your spending habits down route to a degree!


A380 only possible for 320 rated guys? Or also nonrated?
Also open to non rated, but the fleet doesn't usually take many DEPs. Maybe 20 in the past 5 years or so.

RexBanner 30th August 2018 20:53


Originally Posted by Danny212 (Post 10237278)
Any junior FO's SH care to share current take home pay? I know its variable based on X, Y and Z. But a rough figure would be great based on the summer months.

Take Home:
July £4880
August £4960

PP3 mind. No overtime. Wild horses couldn’t drag me in on days off.

Paddingtonbear 31st August 2018 07:21


Any junior FO's SH care to share current take home pay? I know its variable based on X, Y and Z. But a rough figure would be great based on the summer months.
Anybody care to share the same info, but for Gatwick base?

bringbackthe80s 31st August 2018 14:29


Originally Posted by RexBanner (Post 10237700)
Wild horses couldn’t drag me in on days off.

Says quite a bit about the job!

-just kidding-

RexBanner 31st August 2018 17:32

There’s another reason for that (commuting) my time at home is more valuable than they could ever pay ;)

Danny212 2nd September 2018 17:28


Originally Posted by RexBanner (Post 10237700)


Take Home:
July £4880
August £4960

PP3 mind. No overtime. Wild horses couldn’t drag me in on days off.

Thanks!! @Rex Banner

Meg9 9th September 2018 12:23

Anyone else also in the holdpool that know roughly how long it's taking to get a call?

Thanks!

zero/zero 9th September 2018 13:14

Apparently A320 peeps are getting very quick dips in the pool. Others a bit longer (but not that long).

I heard they’ve changed the system so you get one email with an offer, 24 hours to accept and then kicked out of the pool if you reject.


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