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aloa326 23rd September 2014 12:37

Hi folks,

just my impression, but ivthink the HR is not so big and they need time to manage tons of applicants...happy to be wrong if someone from inside will tell us the "size".

GeorgeHarrison 23rd September 2014 13:08

It's also weird we haven't heard anything from the first interviews

ValePilot 23rd September 2014 13:34

If they were "true"... like that low hour guy said he received a call etc etc, and then magically disappeared aahah. What a story...

GeorgeHarrison 23rd September 2014 14:43

I believe they were true...I don't see why adult people would lie about it...we simply are waiting for some sort of confirmation in terms of assessment

EdnaClouds 23rd September 2014 16:05

Yes, ValePilot, calm yourself.
The HR dept have been in overdrive in the last few months with DE Capts and FOs and now with cadets and reviewing numbers/course start dates/SIM availability etc etc.

The whole application and interview and even starting the line takes some time so please give them some credit and be patient.

@captplaystation - just to clarify this is what the rate is for Type Rated applicants :)

ValePilot 23rd September 2014 19:04

Yes, of course, but could be nice only to know the results of online tests, and so if the application can proceed further!

TypeIV 23rd September 2014 19:53

I've got 2000h on the B737 currently flying in Europe and I haven't heard anything from them yet so I guess that they have DEFOs to pick and choose between. Or that my CV is particularly crappy ;-)

captplaystation 23rd September 2014 20:08

TypeIV

Maybe they identified you from pprune :hmm: & didn't like you.

You think I joke, but, the walls have ears, and East Germany/ North Korea have some stuff to learn from airlines . . . EdnaClouds, my point exactly, the acceptance of non TR is about one factor, and one factor only . . paying less salary.

Anyone want to take a wager on how long before every 737 (with the possible exception of 36 on the NAN AOC - including 10 "to be retired" Classics ) are EI- registered, 2 years ? 18mths ? look out CPH/ARN (HEL & Spain don't worry, you are already "decided" & you will love to work for the Irish . . to be sure to be sure - who mentioned the 2 Condoms joke ? )

ValePilot 24th September 2014 11:12

I beg to report the user's words in other section of the forum


They did the interviews already. Over 5000 applications and they called 60 guys for 36 positions.

I have two friends who got the job offer yesterday, so fellas, this process is already done.
Wow!

ValePilot 25th September 2014 12:08

Have you been in Oslo toplux, right? How was the interview??

ValePilot 25th September 2014 12:54

And so the "story" of 36 people needed is it true?:)

captplaystation 26th September 2014 20:45

I refer you to post #625 17th Sept, faster "progress" :yuk: than even I anticipated



"Most changes are for the EURO bases and it was probably not a big surprise that Norwegian has started transferring bases and aircraft to Norwegian Air

International and the Irish AOC. When the next base transfers are going to happen is not yet decided, but we expect that the Spanish bases are transferred before the summer program begins. When Helsinki is transferred is still an open question."

Kirks gusset 27th September 2014 11:46

Feedback from two of my colleagues that recently attended interview was that the " results" of the on-line tests were given at the interview. Our other colleague that went 787 is being asked to change to LGW base..ok apart from UK tax rates.
The two Captains decided not to go in the end, reasons: Staff travel only on NAS no medical and LOL, pension etc. Also the temp contract did not allow them to get mortgages. greener grass etc etc, personal choices.

ValePilot 27th September 2014 12:07


Feedback from two of my colleagues that recently attended interview was that the " results" of the on-line tests were given at the interview
Are they exp. pilots right?

Kirks gusset 27th September 2014 12:35

If you mean experienced, yes, both Captains on 737, both current.

SpannerInTheWerks 27th September 2014 14:50


The two Captains decided not to go in the end
The answer was there all the time.


Third test: it's verbal reasonning, you have different section of texts wich are again divide in other sections. You have 49 questions and you have to say that the sentence is right or fault or an other thing....
Did you say you haven't heard back yet?

maybepilot 27th September 2014 20:00

there will not be any hiring until sometimes next year, probably from summer 2015 onwards.
They are just creating a pool for the future.
First hand info from a colleague.

aloa326 27th September 2014 20:54

someone got already a job offer, now they are creating only a pool until maybe next year...guys please stop :mad: us.

this thread is going down...not usefull anymore.......if it even has been.

maybepilot 28th September 2014 07:58

It has to do with fleet expansion, it's merely a numbers crushing exercise.
In practice the fleet will not expand until sometimes next winter 2015 because of the 737 classic phase out and no new deliveries until next winter.
Therefore there is no need for massive recruitment at the moment, only pool building for he future.
These are the details of what I was told.

SpannerInTheWerks 29th September 2014 16:02


They are just creating a pool for the future.
The trouble is that everyone is in everyone else's 'hold pool'.

So whilst it might be an interesting exercise to determine the state of the market in respect of available pilots today, it will be of little use in Summer 2015.

Seems a strange thing to go through this process a year ahead of time?


there will not be any hiring until sometimes next year, probably from summer 2015 onwards
As I'm writing this the Norwegian advert for experienced Boeing pilots to fly the B787 is flashing brightly red and blue, so there must be some hiring still to be done - maybe not on the B737 then?

Perhaps the deal is not so good (as has been reported elsewhere)?

sonicguy 30th September 2014 06:54

any news regarding the B787 recruitment out of JFK? :cool:

niss 30th September 2014 09:39

This is about B737 NOT Plastic Fantastic B787

LNIDA 30th September 2014 10:07

There is on going recruitment for the 73 fleet, around 12 courses next year with ground course starting next month, 2015 will be a year of consolidation, with new aircraft deliveries replacing the 300's so a next increase of about 4 units, but 2016 will be a very busy year..........

SpannerInTheWerks 1st October 2014 11:15


This is about B737 NOT Plastic Fantastic B787
No. But B787 recruitment MAY be indicative of B737 recruitment insofar as how experienced, type-rated pilots' view of the airline?

If there are any transfers from one fleet to the other then this may have a (small) effect on B737 recruitment numbers?


but 2016 will be a very busy year..........
The one problem that the aspiring 'cadets' have is maintaining currency. It is one thing being a trainee pilot sponsored by an airline, and therefore having a job to go to, but quite another revalidating licences and ratings - especially the cost of instrument ratings.

2016 will be good for those cadets just having qualified, but those tied into bonds and those whose ratings have lapsed not so good.

That is, of course, if NAS take on cadets or stick with experienced pilots transferring across from other operators.

I wonder how big the 'pool' of experienced pilots really is - that is, those experienced, type-rated and current?

Unfortunately 'cadets' with only a basic licence are not at the top of the food chain.

FlyingOfficerKite 1st October 2014 14:13


As far as I'm aware there has only been a "handful" of upgrade courses for contracting pilots by comparison to DECs joining.
That's my experience with contract pilots tending to remain in the position for which they were contracted, that is first officers remain in the RHS.

Others no doubt will have different experiences and it would be interesting to learn what the mix of experiences are?

RTO 1st October 2014 18:02


No. But B787 recruitment MAY be indicative of B737 recruitment insofar as how experienced, type-rated pilots' view of the airline?
Not any more than JAL recruitment is indicative of. You have to remember that the 787 Ops are a totally different company where the only thing they have in common is the red nose.

737 Jockey 1st October 2014 21:28

Actually, not for much longer are we going to be a different company, not outside of Scandinavian bases anyhow. LGW and other bases to follow, will be flying Irish registered aircraft, on an Irish AOC, with Dublin based management Pilots, under Norwegian Air International, the same as Long Haul. It's beginning to feel like the airline which I hoped to have seen the last of!

Sadly, I can no longer hand on heart recommend making the jump, especially if you have the 'right' base, or are near command. Just my opinion though. Shame :{

captplaystation 1st October 2014 21:51

I am deeply, deeply, sorry . . . to agree with you :{






And, sadly, even if a few "enlightened" Senior FO's who saw their Commands flashing 12 ? 18? months forward from the "promised" date, migrate back to the "Dark Side" . . . will anything meaningful change ? what do ya reckon ? I reckon not. . . . . . . .

go around flaps15 1st October 2014 23:12

If DECs keep joining while experienced senior FOs are waiting for a command then I can only see a lot of them looking elsewhere. And for what's it's worth the rumour is that a lot of them are.

Why would experienced and competent First Officers that are very capable of becoming captains stay and watch what seems to be an endless amount of DECs join ahead of them in the left hand seat?

Maybe FR might take a few back as a few were about to their commands there. But maybe not?

Either way EK and the other we can't name are sniffing around I suspect.

EK have setup road shows in a lot of Norwegians bases including HEL, ARN, CPH, and OSL.

Let's face I don't think they are targeting high seniority SAS or FINNAIR pilots.

On a positive note it's a very nice airline overall but at the moment this seems to be a sticking point among senior FOs.

Pin Head 2nd October 2014 06:38

Time to command for a 10000hrs TT, 1700hrs on type, 4000 b756 buy.

All RHS?

directmisbi 2nd October 2014 06:50

Now, why would people based in scandi-land and on core contracts leave for Emirates? To be first officer for another ten years? Leave one of the most secure and rich societies in the world for the desert? If you are scandi and want to based at home, this is the only show in town. SAS, JetTime, Primeria are all hiring, but an average FO in core would take a massive pay cut to go, at least 50 percent if not more as per comparison today. Now, for the euro bases that is an entirely different matter. Wait a year for command, for NPG to work and the 100 max to arrive or leave for the desert? I know what I would do:ok:

SpannerInTheWerks 2nd October 2014 17:12


Actually, not for much longer are we going to be a different company
Ironic if your words proved to include FR?!?!?!

Two out of three top low cost airlines on the Irish register?

... or will it prove to be one super-loco?

babisiliop 3rd October 2014 07:12

Does anybody know to tell me,how long it takes after the on-line assessment to inform the candidate about the results?
Do they inform about fail or pass or they call you right the way for the next session what ever it is?
Anyway,what is the process?

Cheers

GeorgeHarrison 3rd October 2014 09:52

If you are called to an interview, then they will discuss the online test with you during the first stage. I mean, I don't even know, but that's what we've been told!

ipaoffice 7th October 2014 13:25

If you want real support and great service come to the IPA.

Elephant and Castle 7th October 2014 13:37

And about as useful as a bamboo shotgun.

RTO 11th October 2014 19:29


I dont know where you heared all this cr@p but clearly you havent flown for FR before and I dont know anyone who moved back for the past 12 month...

All of us who left are willing to fight to keep this company a good place to be !

Things are still a lot different from Ryr here. We have the will and the tools to fight for our rights.

But if you want to leave please go ahead... We wont let the same happen in Norwegian.
Everfly: remember this snippet you wrote in May? Now a significant number of Norwegian FO's resigned and returned to FR, fyi

captplaystation 11th October 2014 20:21

True ? or rumour ? I heard a significant amount were unhappy that the "time to command" half-promised at interview was not materialising, I also heard FR were running two OCC's in January for "returnees". . . do you know this news for sure ? if so, it should open NAS(NAN/NAI. . whatever)'s eyes to the fact they are not the only show in town, & even the "freaks show" might work out better for some. . . . . . :ugh:

Everfly 12th October 2014 14:44


Everfly: remember this snippet you wrote in May? Now a significant number of Norwegian FO's resigned and returned to FR, fyi
It's not so surprising after the latest announcement regarding upgrades but I am curious of where you get your facts from...

I haven't notice a large amount of pilots leaving, if any, we are over-crewed in most of the bases and people seems happy.I can believe that some people are willing to go back, it isn't always green in NAX but its definitly greener for me and a lot of guys who joined.

On a side note, it's kinda funny to think that they will probably earn the same money as a new captain while flying 100 hours a month in the base of their choice...

McMax 20th October 2014 17:47

Any news, rumors...?!


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