Im not working for NAS but I would imagine that they still use contractors in HEL and it's not Scandinavia so I would hope that there is a chance to get there! But as we all know, you have no clue with airlines in todays world what they are up to.

NAS on line assessment
 

Hi alloha, luc753 and others....

After doing the Cut-e On-line assessment, have you received any feed back?

If you are successful, do you know what's the next step?

...and do you know, if the on-line assessment email was sent to you from the agency you did applied with, or by this stage (if successful) you are already chosen for further interview/assessment by NAS, I mean if you are already by now in the process with NAS?

Good luck to you....
:ok:

Hello 8899. After doing the assesment, I have no feedback for the moment. I read on this topic, that the next steps if successful, it will be a sim interview and an interview with the RH and some tech questions (looks like 737 lim or explain some systems and some basics stuff like vmcg)....I applied only via the website not via an agency. Thanks you. I hope a lot...

The guys who joined in the last batch of recruitment, did they also have this 6 month initial contract period with the possibility of 24 months after?

Very interested in NAS but this condition is putting me off. I know you're more than likely to be there longer than the 6 months but it's a risk....

You that have received the online test are you already rated?

The first Helsinki contract offer was rejected by 98% of the HEL pilot group the second contract offer has been accepted by 98% of the HEL pilot group, its not perfect, but what is?

Not sure the contract period is relevant, either side can pull the plug at a months notice, I'm only aware of the company having exercised that option a couple of times and that was about the individual rather than the job position, i make no judgement on whether the company was in the right or not. I'm not aware of anybody not having their contract renewed.

If you want to join Norwegian then now is a good time as the recruitment will slow in 2015 when the last aircraft of the current 738 order are delivered, some of which will be to replaced the phased out 737-300's and a small number of early build 737-800 so no net recruitment.

Huh? English test required.:D

Does someone have any news today after the online assessment? Here nothing.... Because they said that they will contact you shortly after the application process is closed

NAS on line assessment
 

@luc753

...that's indeed what they said, but no feedback yet :sad:

@aerocomp

Affirmative...rated!

well i guess they are expecting all of the guys who got applied to complete the online assessment and then they will contact those who fit to the desirable profile the most.

Any one has any info on the FO salary an the type of roster they provide?they say for minimum 12 days off.Is it possible to work on a 5/2 5/2 4/6 5/2 pattern for example?

Quoted from their recruitment page:

Variable roster in which the above mentioned days off will be given with at least two blocks with 3/ 4 days off each month.

They are searching people without and experience the TR of 737 now. There are searching more people. So, good news for us. They will take more of us. They will they us before them.... Good luck for everybody. Hope to have a positive news soon

First email with negative response have been sent. Two of my friends rated and with some hours on type have been rejected. Me at the moment no news (which maybe is a good news).

3500tt atpl rated

How many hours on type do friends have??? I think those rated with less than 500 hours on type are not going to be called

These guys are at around 500 on type but with 800tt. There are probably more pilots with higher experience.

I guess the 1500TT requirement played against them. I've been told NAS is quite strict on that.

Guys

I've read the whole Thread so I hope the answers to the following questions are not obvious?

1. Is the reason NAS are sourcing non-type rated FOs due simply to a lack of suitable type rated candidates in the market against projected future requirement?

2. How are 'contractors' paid (UK candidates):

• Own Limited Company;
• 'Umbrella' company;
• as 'self-employed' (sole trader)?

3. Depending upon the answer to Question (2), is tax deducted at source, or are you paid gross and left to sort out your own tax and deductions (mention of 'tax certificate' required in an earlier Post)?


4. What is the current position regarding the likelihood of experienced FOs being employed as a contractor and progressing to the LHS (website states: '12. Command upgrade within the group of contract pilots possible after 12 months hiring.' is this happening in practice, or is it mainly from within the permanently employed FOs)?


Thanks in anticipation.

Fly Gosh: Norwegian Air Shuttle Pilot Recruitment - Non rated and rated Captains & First Officers ( CPL / IR )


Kite, more chance to be upgraded as a Contract FO, than as a "Core FO" & more chance to retain your Command, rather than being dumped back in the RHS on a seasonal basis. . . . go figure. :hmm:

I sent my application yesterday evening and received a positive answer within 24hrs. The next step for me is to complete the online assessment.
I'm not rated with close to 3000 hrs on Multi Pilot Aircraft (EFIS Turboprop).

Greetings

captplaystation:

Thanks for that. The reason for the question was that my experience in the past with some operators has been that of 'employed as an FO, always an FO', with less chance of promotion due to the uncertain/fixed term of the contract.

Different this time around, you are "cheaper", so therefore automatically "more qualified" :D

This Autumn the future relationship between NAS (or its offshoots) & the Norwegian pilots Union is rumoured to be reminiscent of Gaza, but just a little more nasty.

Yet another Winter of discontent, 3rd since I joined in March 2012 ( & it wasn't such a nice Spring that year . . . more like the "Arab Spring" at that stage)

Following up from the Cabin Crew debacle a few months ago, one wonders how much more damage NAS intends to inflict upon itself by unfavourable public reaction to bullying unethical "negotiating" tactics. . last time around was expensive, & not really sustainable in addition to subsidising Boeings development of the 787 maintenance programme.

captplaystation:

Having read the previous Posts it seems that NAS is developing into 'Ryanair in a cold climate'.

I hope that is not going to be the case?

Posts seem mixed on this Thread: On the one hand extolling the virtues of the terms and conditions of employment in comparison to Ryanair, yet on the other decrying the relationship between employees and the company.

Is this a dichotomy that can be resolved or do you think it is likely to be a downward trend for the airline and employees alike?

I think that as long as you have any kind of union things will never get as bad as in Ryanair! I think the HEL base proved this recently.

The HEL permanent contract is still not finalised. Version 2.5 is due very soon. There were many holes in V2.0 as regards seniority, how many were to be given the offer of permanent, what pay scale new joiners to the base would start on etc etc. . . . & lets not even mention the sick joke that was V1.0. :yuk:

The HEL base is not a standalone entity, and all Unions concerned are attempting to put in place a common CLA acceptable to ALL contract bases , with local variations in renumeration etc to take account of local laws holiday/weekend payments etc.

At least the Spanish Union SEPLA was able to announce this week that they have reached 50% membership within the current Spanish based pilots. An excellent result in the few mths the campaign has been going, & one that puts Ryanair to shame (not to mention the NAS LGW base if what I hear is true. . . Wakey Wakey guys, BALPA or BENDOVER . . .which do you prefer ? :ooh: )

Soryy to be impatient. . but have you read the 26 pages of this thread. . .nope ? thought not, or the "link" I posted, nope. . . too busy ? well, fortunately we are here to hold your hand.

If you did, you wouldn't even ask about "core" positions & you would know the contract is 6mths initially, extendable to 24 or 36mths, depending on base.

Recruitment is for "Contract Bases" (HEL/LGW/AGP/ALC/BCN/MAD/LPA/TFS) although, surprisingly :hmm: most FO's recruited early this year spent the whole of Summer in OSL (not their choice) thereby conveniently obviating the need to increase the size of the core workforce.

NAS are "top heavy" with FO's for Winter, so, why recruit ? and why are they just in the process of demoting around 40 Capts ? . . . Hmnn, industrial dispute. . . . . . strike action . . .some little "pioneers" eager to help out ? Cynical ? me ? ;) I guess you won't be worried that the "offer" is 800€/mth less than the current Contractors have . . .sounds a bit "Irish" to me :(

TR
 

Does anyone know how much are they gonna ask for the type rating?

A sum you should refuse to pay

I'm told the TR is about 250 000 SEK and you can choose to either bond or pay up.... i also got the online assessment which i will do today.

can anyone update us who still not done it?

If you imagine how much of that 250000SEK "cost" may, in all possibility, actually be "profit" for your potential employer, you will have answered your own question.

A certain other LCC is widely believed to have made at least 50% profit on the sum demanded for a TR, hence why they previously didn't care how many FO resigned . . . different now, as they are losing all their potential Capts. . .but that is another discussion.

With no intentions to play devil's advocate here, isn's that comprehensive of all "accessory-training"? I agree that it would make more sense if rolled into a x-years bond, to that the employer would see its investment (or part of) returned if someone quit before the term is over.

10K for a 73-rating isn't much, tho. Would that be a ZFT or this can be done just be done with an approved TRTO program?

DK :uhoh:

I think a friend once told me his easyJet B737 rating cost £17,000 in the early 2000s - so with inflation maybe circa £20,000 now (€25,000).

So €27,000 doesn't seem too far off the mark?!

Bear in mind this isn't just sim time, it's the Full Monty - groundschool, SEP training etc to get you through to the start of line training.

PS: ... plus uniform, pass, meals, accommodation ...

Air Baltic will sell you a 737 rating for €9900. Including landings etc.

Factor in perhaps another €1500 for the various ground school courses if you had to receive them externally as a stand alone candidate.

...on a -500, now rated a Classic. 1000 more and you get NGs. With one of the worse TRTO in EU, probably paired with a former-CCCP military guy as TC.

I don't think so, that is another 6-7K. And then you are out on your own...no hours on type.

DK :uhoh:

But is it confirmed that you can bond instead of paying?

Norwegian Recruiting Process
 

Does anybody know,what is the next step of the recruiting process
after the e-online assessments?

Hi folks,
sent the application in the morning and in the same evening got the online test....

good luck everyone!!!!

yes i can confirm that its about bonding. or you can pay the full amount if you like :) but who would?

Captplaystation
The alarm clock in Gatwick has woken a few up. There needs to be a move in numbers for a union and BALPA is the only option.

Any age limit to apply? Does anyone knows?

According to "The Employment Equality Directive 2000/78/EC" it is prohibited (with a few exceptions i.e. military, police) within the Eu to discriminate against age, concerning employment.
So no, there is not max published age limit. That would be illegal.