Norwegian didn't really pay for it then did they?

I think you need to look at the tax implications of this, if you pay up front you pay the current rate of tax on the money that you pay for the type rating, so a rating that costs £ 20 K costs you £20K + the tax you have already paid on the income.

If the company reduces your pay by the cost of the type rating then your income is less so a £20K type rating costs you £20 K.

A lot better deal!

A and C,

And the company gets to claim back the cost or the TR as a company expense. Also by paying you less (TR deductions) they also have to contribute less to Social/NIC etc. Win win for pilot and company

Hi guys,

I get positive response and invited to assessment next week ?

Does anyone have any details about the group interview and the personal interview ?

Best regards

Asking or confirming
 

Hi looping66!
Are you asking if anybody got positive response to the online tests or are you confirmong you got positive reply and you are invited to the group interview?
It does not seem very clear what you are trying to say.
What is your profile as pilot? Hours? TR on type or not? Etc...
Thank you and good luck!

What's your experience? Congratulations!

3000 TT
2000 Turbine

Ok! Congratulations!
When you now anything else about the interview tell us please!
Good luck!

and what type of contract did they get? was it a permanent one or one of these agency contracts? base in scandi or the contractor bases?

thanks!

Are they calling by phone or sending mails?

cheers

bairni,

everything possible is being done to keep the number of pilots on a "real" permanent contract as low as possible (new FO's spending 7-8mths in Scandilands on a temporary K Area contract after line-training, Capts on Leave of Absence shipped into Scan for few mths each Summer etc)

As I have posted here before, there have been around 100 permanent vacancies created this last 2 years, none since Apr 2013, and around 400-500 ? (or more) Contractors joining in this period. . . . so, do yourself a favour & stop dreaming of permanent "Core" contracts. . . ain't gonna happen. Previous Cadets were given contracts through agencies, just like those joining as experienced FO's.

captplaystation

I presume it's fair to say the first round of selection of those 'most likely to' is complete?

Probably the next round will be making up numbers, for those who proved incompatible from within those initially selected, leaving a few more vacancies?

Next stage 'the thanks, no thanks letters/e-mails for the remainder?

The question is: whether it's worth renewing a type rating in order to re-apply as a type rated pilot rather than relying on the non-type rated vacancy?

I believe (but it has not been confirmed) that non TR can look forward to less money each month, don't know if this is due to paying back the rating, or "just because they can".

If you are already rated I would hazard a renewal might be cheaper (?) than the loss of money each month, as I guess you would be treated like a "real" non TR'd applicant & be docked the amount over 2 ? 3 ? years.


In terms of selection, I don't think you can assume anything. Our HR/recruitment Dept is not over staffed , and like most of aviation a certain degree of "fire-fighting" is the norm. . . I believe your (and anyone else's) application will not per se be less attractive, merely that on the day they picked someone else's from the list 1st, be it chance, alphabetical order/whatever. I believe it could indeed be that random.

captplaystation

Thanks, as usual, for your comments and insight.

I remember years ago it was rumoured that one airline had so many responses that in order to choose between the applicants they employed their office staff to determine who had stuck the stamps on the envelopes squarely in order to select the successful pilots.

SpannerInTheWerks,


For what it is worth, I have heard (but not confirmed) that (initially at least) the number of non TRd recruited will be small.

It appears we are not (again "initially" :hmm: ) planning to emulate the other mob & become a FO "sausage factory".

One reason for this will no doubt be the scarcity of Sim slots, of which non TRd applicants gobble up much more than currently rated bods, followed by a lot more line training, again requiring more resources than we currently have.

Having no dedicated Sims (I could imagine that changing sometime, but we apparently have a very satisfactory deal with CAE) there is a very finite limit on Sim slots , most of which we seem to need for renewals.

The day we purchase some Sims will herald the day that, like you know who, we have started to view pilot recruitment as a supplementary revenue source. We do not appear to have reached that particular low just yet.

Any truth on the rumour(the other forum) that the assessments will be held in London first(heathrow)moving on to other Euro cities,and successful candidates then will be invited to Oslo for the Sim ride? cheers

Thank you Anunaki for the info.
Did anyone recive a call or email for the next recruitment fase??
I completed the online tests on the 6th and still nothing...
Thanks and good luck!

CaptPlayStation

Thanks again.

It's a shame that the hopes of so many have been apparently built up if the likelihood of low hours pilots with no experience being employed is low.

What you say makes perfect sense - perhaps it would have been kinder to have stipulated a minimum number of hours for non-type rated guys, unless they are testing the market of course?

Have you any idea of overall numbers of pilots required at this stage and what mix of age and experience have those pilots that you are aware of that have been taken on to date?

of beginning the end :uhoh: (rearrange the words as you feel appropriate )





Several Boeing 737-800 aircraft will be transferred from NAS to NAI
Published:17.09.2014

“An important step in the company’s growth strategy,” says Asgeir Nyseth, CEO of Norwegian Air International.

NAI is working closely with the Irish Aviation Authority for an extension of NAI’s AOC to also include the operation of Norwegian’s Boeing 737-800 aircraft. The plan is to transfer a nine short-haul aircraft from Norwegian Air Shuttle (NAS) to Norwegian’s Irish subsidiary Norwegian Air International (NAI). The transfer of aircraft first and foremost applies to the company’s aircraft that is currently based at London Gatwick. The nine aircraft are also due to be re-registered, from “LN” to “EI”.

The plan is to start the B737 operation for NAI 1st November 2014.

CEO of NAI, Asgeir NysethThere are several reasons why Norwegian has chosen to transfer part of its short-haul fleet to its Irish subsidiary, says CEO of NAI, Asgeir Nyseth, to Red Nose.

“This is an important step in the company’s growth strategy. The company is growing rapidly and the main growth is in markets outside of Scandinavia. This is the main reason for transferring the aircraft to NAI,” says Asgeir.

“By transferring the aircraft to NAI in Ireland, we have easier access to future traffic rights to and from the EU as Norway isn’t a member of the EU. Ireland is also a considerable cluster for the aviation industry and the country offers one of the highest ranked civil aviation authorities in the world,” he continues.

Someone said that MOL went to Fornebu HQ a few months ago for a meeting. Rumour was that he wanted to buy NAS. Now that we will have EI registered aircraft, an Irish AOC, and a new Chief Pilot (B737) who spent the last 19 years at Ryanair, I can't help feeling like I'm being coaxed towards a train carriage headed for Auschwitz.... "Everything will be fine guys, you have nothing to worry about". :eek:

#feelingphysicallysick #ryanairII

:mad::ugh:

All just my own thoughts and opinions, should any lawyers bother to read the above.

Oh dear :sad:

Ireland - the Liberia of the aviation World?

That's quite an far fetched rumour though isn't it?

Many thought NAS was the light at the end of the tunnel.....
The beginning of the end instead.

Yes Cont, it is, but anything is possible. It would make sense, as O'Leary can't get his grubby little mitts on any new aircraft until 2016. However, I feel it is just a rumour, but what is very disturbing, is the further dilution of the Pilot group, away from the Scandinavian core. It is so, so important that ALL Pilots join their local union, and then unify as a group.

Cont, there is no rumour involved here, that is straight from the company website . . .where do YOU think it is going ? I can already see the "train crash in slow motion" :=





Edited to say, 737Jockeys nightmare is the worst case scenario, but the reality IS . . . Ryanair mgmt have been recruited to NAI (well.our C.P. this last few years is ex FR anyhow . . . . . . ) so, we have employed a number of well known & much loved figures recently (it seems , thank F, not the one who had his own thread - that I was "removed" from ) & I am guessing they were not brought on board for their forward thinking/employee friendly manner. . . neither, I am sad to report, were they sourced for any verifiable expertise/skills other than sh***++g on people & causing the maximum discord between employee/employer.

All in my humble opinion of course.

Hi,

I did the online assessment for type rated FO about 1 month and a half ago but no answer for the moment. Anybody know if they are calling or emailing Type Rating people for the interview. I´ve seen that for the moment they are calling non type people.

wrong, they are calling the most experienced guys with hours on type. Of course they start calling from the top of the list :rolleyes:
me too, waiting for the call, 2500tt, 600 on type

neither like you said, calling also guys fresh from cpl skill test about 230 hrs.
please stop presuming the way how they are calling, too much complicated for "human beings" like us:ok:

Any type rated FO has been called?

I am not supposing, I am saying what I really know and I will tell you something more. In the company in which I was working there are 3 rated guys. All of them received the "no thanks" email, and their experience is around 500tt with 300on type.
So the low experienced Trated guys are out.

Which is not surprising as the NAS advertisement states that the company requires EXPERIENCED First Officers with a minimum of 1,500 hours total time and 500 hours on type!

They're not 'out' as they were never 'in'.

I can confirm on my Parc contract that this is the current pay for the top bracket FOs.

A am not sure what the older rate was on ARPI or Parc.

€8/ph sector for FOs.

Regards

That was /is the current rate for all 3 agencies.

The €800 less rumour was €800 less than that figure.

Maybe, this is what will be offered to non TR entrants ?

... so if you have a B737 type rating that has lapsed/expired it would probably be worthwhile renewing?

All other issues regarding recruitment being equal that is (ie you're offered a job!)

But how would that work and how would you know ... ?

It's late - rambling and thinking aloud ...

Three internal upgrade courses planned for autumn. These are for SCAN (core) FO`s though..

Doea anyone have any news? It seems like rumours have slowed down lately

GeorgeHarrison

I think it is a natural thing, the expansion has slowed considerably and will stay low during 2015 and start picking up in 2016 again. According to what I've read and heard.

My guess is that they would prefer upgrading core FOs, thus putting them on a contract instead of permanent position. That way they can keep decreasing the costs of the core, and more importantly weaken the power of the union.

There's no deadline ln the website and a few days ago they reposted the ad on Latestpilotjobs

initially it was in october!