Hi there!

So seems to be that selections are still in progress and people has to be called yet..
Does anybody know if EI is screening / has screened typerated people from outside Ireland and Uk?

TKS:ok:

I got the same email as NukeHunt sent yesterday, which too, led me to believe there is an application form with my name on that hasn't been binned just yet.

I'm not airbus rated.

I have a friend who was called for interview recently, he had all but given up hope too.

He is non Airbus rated.

Hi there!

Any news?
Still waiting for a call or email..

TKS:ok:

I received a call recently. 2000 hours TP
Any help would be much appreciated!!

Hello all,

I have just been offered a job as FO on an A320 for Aer Lingus.

I applied back in december and got a surprise phone call about 2 weeks ago and after 3 trips to Dublin and over £1000 of flight costs I got offered the job.

I originally graduated from an OAA integrated course back in 2009. However since then I have been volunteering at a private charter company flying twin pistons and flying a C172 on traffic survey! I have 400TT and no type rating.

OAA did not help me one bit to get this job. I did it all myself.

No everyone that graduates from OAA thinks they will go straight into a jet, some of us work really hard doing whatever we can to get our first job.

So by the looks of things, the "desirable" criteria was a load of :mad:. There are plenty of rated guys out there but it seem Lingus have hired more integrated bods with no type. Well done to the guys that have got through.

EI have recruited lots of guys from different backgrounds...when I attended selection there was a whole cross section. I had loads of hours on type whilst the person next to me had no hours.

Also, why bother with EI? You get paid more at most other low cost airlines with their severely downgraded T&Cs in their regional bases.

So someone with a couple of hundred hours doing dog work in a spamcan gets a job over hundreds of experienced guys with jet time and OAA on their CV had nothing to do with it? If you expect me to swallow that then keep dreaming! LoL Congrats on getting an initial interview, nevermind the job mate - think yourself lucky you're not in my shoes and still instructing and well on the way towards the 3000 hour mark. I sadly don't have OAA on my CV but just a bundle of invoices for renewed IR's and PFO's over the past 5 years. All those 'contacts' nurtured haven't been able to help one jot either! Perhaps its time for me to move on in life methinks but I digress......

VFE.

VFE
 

Don't give up VFE the industry is on the mend and your hours will definitely be useful. Word is BA are due to open their doors again to NON TR'd people again in April/May. I think the Charter industry is dead though for a while as they are consumed by rated seasonal contracts to keep costs down for their low seasons. The Loco's may be worth watching as Ryan, Easy and Jet 2 will need a fair few people as the jobs start coming. Not ideal, maybe, but a start!

As for the low hour guys, good luck to them, all airlines need a variety of experience and ages so as not to have everyone retiring or coming up for command at the same time. I agree frustrating for the experienced guys but you can bet that all the jobs going at Lingus haven't gone to low hour non tr'd people.

Good luck to all :ok:

Thanks 73addict! Sorry for the negativity.

VFE.

While I suspect that your tone is slightly sarcastic, so please don't think I'm having a go, in reality it's probably not far away from the truth that Oxford have had little to do with it!

I'm informed that the "Manager: Graduate Recruitment" at Oxford who was so proudly displayed to us all as vastly experienced and having the best interests of graduates at the forefront of his concerns (despite looking suspiciously young and having a slighty disinterested manner) has recently naffed off to Jet2. Fair play to him, I wish him many happy hours flying, but I suspect he hasn't given a proverbial poo for some time, in fact, I have an interesting email which would suggest as much (I hope he has since learned the merits of editing before sending)!

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I have just been offered a job as FO on an A320 for Aer Lingus.

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cvemery
Where did you get based? Are you given a choice or just put where they want you?
Congrats on the job, I hope to be joining you soon :ok:

Before anyone asks im not a newbie, I did do an integrated course many moons ago though, not type rated, current turboprop pilot.

To VFE: I believe your comment may be in relation to my post in getting a job. It is quite insulting that you feel that way towards me. I have worked in a C172 yes but have also logged over 150hrs in a Cessna T303 on throughout Europe IFR. I have had to deal with genuine Mayday emergencies and even got into flight international due to my unusual use of an ELT beacon. All this work was done UNPAID. I worked as a waitress not even able to pay my rent just to deperatly keep my dreams alive by keeping my hand in flying. Just because i went to OAA should not be an excuse to be harsh to me. The other guys who got a job went to FTE and pilot training college, so its not just OAA guys.

OAA did not help me one bit. In fact they hindered me...but thats another story. I paid for all my renewals and am over £100,000 in debt but I worked really hard to get this job, as I have said above.

I donk know why Aer Lingus have chosen to pick low houred guys but they probably have their reasons. Its no reason to get bitter to the people who have been offered the job.


To FlyingTinCans: Thank you for your kind words! Im based in Gatwick. I said id prefer that base because I have family in the UK so it will be easier to visit them. I believe you do have a choice in the irish bases, although I have heard that Cork and Dublin go to more experienced guys who bid on those bases. Good Luck. They seem to be randomly ringing people up. The whole process goes pretty fast...I week from phone call to job offer!

1 week from phone call to job offer?
 

cvemery When did you receive the phone call please? Your initial "i got the job" post was on 14th. Did you only receive the first phone call at the start of Februaruy? (Does that mean there is still hope for those of us still waiting?) :confused:

Hi!

I know this is probably a stupid question but here goes:

Do you guys think this recruitment at EI is a one time thing or will there be more to come next fall/year??

I won't be in back in Europe until the summer, so just trying to gauge my options when I get back.

Thanks and congrats to those who got the job!

Burger81: I got the call on Friday 28th Jan for the interview on 1st of feb, aptitude on 3rd feb and sim on 8th Feb. Job offer on 9th. So just over a week but pretty quick!

Cvemery,

Sorry if my posting caused you upset. Truth is that it's a bitter pill to swallow whenever one sees someone get a leg up quicker than ones self. I guess it was wrong to single out OAA as the proverbial ace trump, moreover it seems any graduate of an integrated school stands in much more solid shoes in the airlines eyes than someone who came up via the 'self improver' route.

My primary rancour is that my CV has never even qualified me for initial interview with an airline after 5 years slumming it in GA. I wouldn't mind so much had I had a chance to walk through their doors just to give myself the chance to balls it up for myself! But nada. Nothing. Even direct approaches have failed. Friends working for airlines have fallen on stoney ground whenever they've attempted to "put a word in". For an industry that prides itself on it's intelligence it doesn't half seem to have a prejudice against hard grafters coming up via the 'old system' of self improving. But anyway, that's why I seem bitter and I apologise once more, this time for thread creep.

For long enough I have toe'd the line, bitten my lip, kissed backsides and bought pints for guys in this industry but I am afraid my patience has started to wear a bit thin of late. Perhaps that is because I resent having to put myself in nausiating and sometimes dangerous positions when flying that I would otherwise rather avoid, just to make money and to keep the dream alive - namely, that I might someday be eligible to grace the doorstep of an airline for an initial interview. That would be a start. It niggles after all these years. I have been after this as a career for some time (check my sign up date) but hey, I have said my bit. Enough said.

Congratulations on your job and apologies for doubting your acumen for it.

VFE. (showing my vintage using terms such as 'self improver'!)

VFE,

I may be 4 years behind you on the date I signed up but, that aside, could have written that post word-for-word myself.

Everybody keeps telling me it will happen eventually. We'll see.....I might not want to by then!

I just got a call for interview next Thursday from Aer Lingus HR based on my application from before Christmas. Unforunately I've already sprung for a TR with another operator (with a firm job offer before stumping up the cash - the most important factor IMHO) and am well stuck in to the course and enjoying it thoroughly.
Never mind eh, it's another opportunity for someone else.

Experience?
 

Wg100,

Can you tell us what your experience is please? Obviously you were non-tr'd, but what hours, int or modular etc?

Many thanks

VFE: Apology accepted. No worries! I understand it is extremely frustrating that you have worked for so long in the aviation industry and yet no airline has given you a break. I dont know why that is the case. My collegue that I worked with while flying traffic survey in the C172SP has over 2500 hours on the 172....and yet he is yet to have an interview with anyone...even though he has applied. Apparently they tell him he has "too much single VFR time and not enough multi IFR". However if you dont get the opportunity to fly multi engined planes there is nothing you can do.

Your instructor experience should be sought after. I have no idea why Aer Lingus is taking low houred people, but I expect they have taken type-rated individuals as well. Their recruiting does seen to be random. All I can say is hang in there. I pray you get an opportunity soon :)

Thanks bro. :)

I am probably in the same boat as your collegue. Nothing much one can do about it unless the company one works for decides they want to get your no applied instrument restriction removed or even better - pay for you to get the multi instructor rating. 30 hours PIC is a lot and I decided some time back that I had put enough cash into this career and refuse point blank now on the grounds of maintaining my sanity to pay out anymore to try and get a leg up. What will be will be from now on....

VFE.

I had the 'call' for the cleaning job and am now a swimmer in the 'pool' ('pit'?). The selection day started with a talk from the Director of Cleaning on how we were lucky to be selected for interview as there were thousands of applicants for the cleaning jobs. Then we had a psychometric testing session, a group task followed by an interview with an HR bod and one of the cleaners. The final part was an interview with a psychiatrist which goes over your childhood etc and silly family questions e.g. what does your mother do for a living

Flyingtincans
I had the psychometric tests last week and had a call today for the sim.
Has anyone who has recently experienced the sim check got any tips or advice? Cheers

hi guys,

anyone been to the interview recently? looking to see what was asked and any advice would be greatly appreciaited.

Got an interview this next week. Application was submitted last winter sometime (so long ago I forget when), and I got a call last Wednesday. Could someone who has gone through the process give some advice on type of questions asked (both technical and competency based) please :)

Thanks everyone!

Hi folks,

I have been called for psychometric tests and interview in Dublin next week following application before Christmas. To say I am in shock would be an understatement!

Can anyone recently through the process shed some light please, particularly as to whether there are many tech questions (I will need to do some serious revision)?

Thanks.

(For info, low hours, ex-OAA, absolutely no OAA involvement just sheer luck)

Are they still looking for guys does anyone know? Nothing mentioned on their website under the "Careers & Vacancies" section. Thanks!

djfingerscrossed

Thats interesting. Do you mind me asking where did you hear that??

@FireFoxDown

Think the applications remain closed, my application was submitted by post in December last year and the call for this week very unexpected.

djfc would be correct. that's all i have to say about that.

MC - many thanks for that and good luck with your application.

Hopefully they open up the application process again soon!

Did ANYONE get past the interview or even get hired ??

:ugh:

Plenty passed the interview and progressed to psychometric.

Quite a few did the sim check.

Very very few have been offered jobs. They continue to turn down really good candidates. Haven't a clue why.

Sorry to hear that Deano - how far did you get and what's your background?

Fellas,

Just got an email from EIN today, I´m afraid im not successful. 2800+ on the bus.

:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

PFO today for me too, some 7 months later...

I haven't had it yet...

But then again, I haven't heard anything otherwise either!