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Sammetje 22nd June 2011 14:10

For me PFO as well 2 weeks after the interview, by letter... 800 on the bus 1000tt

Superpilot 23rd June 2011 09:11

Applied December still no PFO!

Deep and fast 24th June 2011 09:33

Got a PFO as well 3500T, 2000 medium jet. Just as well I don't need it now :)

McNulty 24th June 2011 11:05

Pfo

1700 b737, 2000 tt.

stuckgear 24th June 2011 11:38

Applied Dec, got PFO this week.

airbuddy 24th June 2011 15:17

What does pfo stand for??
thanx

skyways1452 24th June 2011 15:38

Curiously, the DEFO ad on the ALT site was replaced by a listing for a:

Manpower Planning Analyst

in the last few days. Interesting.

Sammetje 24th June 2011 16:04

please **** off!!!!!!

kumbaya 24th June 2011 16:27

Got it as well, PFO !
For reference, i'm a 'lowtimer' .

Good luck all !

NukeHunt 24th June 2011 17:04

PFO for me too.

Also low houred.

Sammetje 24th June 2011 17:11

Somebody info about the contracts via the brookers for Aer Lingus, maybe this is why they turned down 'everybody'? cheaper solution?

Bombs Away 24th June 2011 21:00

You guys should realise by now that unless your related to someone who works for em you aint got a hope :E

max tanking 25th June 2011 09:15

Bombs away...

With all due respect, you are talking utter rubbish!
I'm sorry if you didn't get the job. Truth is, someone who performed better than you at assessment probably got the call. Harsh, but true.

If you ask me you're better off anyway. Couldn't organise a pish up in a brewery. Going to the dogs this place.

stuckgear 25th June 2011 09:28


Couldn't organise a pish up in a brewery
That's saying something for the Irish !

Superpilot 25th June 2011 21:05


The application form allows for very little distinction and people with almost identical applications have had different outcomes.

Anyone have any ideas?

Yes, there is no way (even in lala land) that Aer Lingus could make an informed choice regarding who to call in for assessments on the basis of that most simple of application forms. This points towards it being nothing more than a HR exercise which would be the best method of hiding the blatant nepotism. Think about it. Ireland being a fairly small country, you'd be daft to think it (looking after your own) doesn't happen.

MCDU2 26th June 2011 09:14


You guys should realise by now that unless your related to someone who works for em you aint got a hope
Whilst having a connection (dad, mum, brother, sister etc) helps get your CV onto the right desk they are certainly in the minority. They still have to jump through the same hoops as everyone else. From the latest batch I would be lucky to fill a hand counting them.

The vast majority of pilots came through the usual sources. Some from integrated others modular, Aer Arran, Ryanair and the Aer Corps etc etc.

Google the chief pilot and read up on how she got into AL if you don't believe me. Absolutely no connections whatsoever and now in the big seat.

max tanking 26th June 2011 09:30

One thing you have to know about the EI HR dept is, they are as incompetent as they come. They dislike the flight crew fraternity, and would probably go out of their way to choose someone because they were not related to a current EI pilot.

I know there have been cases in the past, but they seem to not like to be told who to interview. I myself, do not see any harm in being able to vouch for someone, and let them go through the recruitment process as every other joe.

They will be recruiting again, their are a huge number of guys moving onto pastures new. Just waiting for start dates and the like.

There is no system in place to help them choose whom to interview, apart from the top few forms in front of them at the precise moment in time they are asked to fill interview slots. They have no real comprehension of what a/c types are, or what quality experience is. You will find that the odd one will know of Oxford or Jerez as an approved school, only because they were used by them at one point for cadets. But there is no real understanding of what they should be looking for. I'm not into starting a debate on schools, just trying to highlight that there is no real reason why some were called, and some not.

Good luck to all of those looking for a move to EI, but be under no illusion you will not be working for a legacy carrier. Their are better place to rest your hat.

stuckgear 26th June 2011 15:18


If you didn't make it, it's because someone else was better. Deal with it.


have to agree, and in the current market airlines can pick and choose who they employ and why.

Piloto2011 11th July 2011 21:24

pilotjobs68 - Latest Pilot Jobs provides the latest aviation vacancies around the world.

Interesting. :ugh: :sad:

Love_joy 11th July 2011 21:57

The brick wall smiley sums it up nicely.

They have spent the last 6 months turning really good candidates away for no good reason, and haven't filled all the seats.

End result is they need to bring in contractors. I'd love to know what the current piloting community in EI think of that!?

Zyox 12th July 2011 00:27

A320 First Officers Required Job, Republic of Ireland (United Kingdom) | Storm McGinley


Location Republic of Ireland (United Kingdom)
:rolleyes:

MCDU2 12th July 2011 07:11


I'd love to know what the current piloting community in EI think of that!?
Nothing surprises us anymore unfortunately. The union told them 18 months ago that we were going to be short of pilots and the company ignored them as they thought better. When the resignation letters flowed in and the guys left for BA, Virgin and the desert but the warning bells still didn't ring. We have spent the summer working a 5 on 1 off, 5 on 2 off roster. In that 5 days you can be going from middles to lates to earlies and vice versa. Lots of guys and gals calling in fatigued as a result.

The problem is management still think along civil service lines and ensure there are enough layers between them so that their heads aren't on the chopping block. I don't think there is actually anyone that has any responsibility for retention of flight deck crew. Quite amazing really.

I wouldn't get to excited about those contract jobs on offer. The experienced FO's that were hired back in for the summer recently were all ex AL (mainly captains but a few f/o's) who left on voluntary severance. As far as I know they were all contacted directly by the agencies and then word of mouth would have spread as you would expect. A 3rd party agency such as Storm or Parc is necessary to avoid a repeat of the €36m donation to the Revenue Commissioner.


They have spent the last 6 months turning really good candidates away for no good reason, and haven't filled all the seats.
Unfortunately for the people involved the training department thinks otherwise.

leeds 65 12th July 2011 11:25

I see on the 'brookfield aviation' website(under 'client list' at the top of there main page).Aer lingus are mentioned as a company thats has dealt with them before or is dealing with them now

Sadly this virus is spreading to decent operators

wxjedi 30th October 2011 11:44

Just home for a few days and saw the EI retro jet in the flesh. What a beauty?

Just wondering what happened the EI direct entry scheme from last year. Did people get hired or is it still going on etc.

I heared that sim checks were going on but I assume that's the cadet scheme. Are they doing hand eye coordination testing on cadets in the sim?

Coupled_To_Me 12th June 2013 18:42

I have heard rumours of an imminent Direct Entry Pilot recruitment campaign. Any insider care to comment/speculate?

Love_joy 12th June 2013 18:53

Unfortunately not an insider, but I did hear from one they are having something of a bumper year and that the Americans are starting to flow again.

So much so in fact, they are about to bring in a couple of 757's to fill some gaps. (wet lease?? I know very little...)

MCDU2 14th June 2013 10:00

It's on the AL website if you go search for it. Direct entry FOs.

IrishJason 14th June 2013 18:22

Shamrock hiring
 
http://www.flyinginireland.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6182

kumbaya 15th June 2013 06:51

Is there any insider information regarding the expected salary ?
I'm very interested in the NET amount one could get monthly.

Thanks

MCDU2 15th June 2013 18:50

Figures on ppjn look reasonably accurate. If you want net after tax then google an online Irish tax calculator. Expect to be shocked - the country is in recession and the middle classes are paying for the austerity measures.

EMB-145LR 17th June 2013 16:02

Anyone else been sent a request to do the online tests? Very similar to those requested by easyJet recently.

JStone 17th June 2013 16:03

Online tests
 
Hi all

Has anyone completed the online tests yet, any information appreciated.

Cheers

Mac72 17th June 2013 17:16

Just got the test. Will I need a special mouse or joystick? Can it be done in one sitting?

eaglesnest1972 17th June 2013 17:35

I applied but to news yet : (
Anyway, deadline is 10 july correct?

Aquafina1 17th June 2013 18:57

yeah i got email to do online tests, i submitted application form on sunday. im expecting them to be similar to the one i screwed up with easy in april! oh well, moan and moan for years about eu airlines not giving us non-rated folks a chance and now that they have i still can't manage to get a foot in the door!
stuck on little turboprops for ever i think! but i'll keep trying.
good luck to all.

hobnobanyone 17th June 2013 23:57

It would appear to be cut-e tests again.

I haven't had the nerve to open the link and have a look - and having been sifted out at an early stage as being "inept" by easyJet too, I'm almost a bit nervous about this one.

I'm guessing it's almost exactly the same tests though. Will have a look after a proper sleep!

bluk 18th June 2013 08:30

Hi guys!
I've done it already...
Yes, you need to have working mouse and keyboard
Every test is preceded by an example and an introduction where it is written what you need to do, have etc.
Good luck!

I-AINC 18th June 2013 10:28

The test is very similar to the EZY one.

I've encountered some difficulties in the math tests.

Good luck guys :ok:

PS: it takes almost 90 mins to complete. Take a Red Bull before :}

young1 18th June 2013 10:37

EZY Maths
 
Is the maths test the same format as EZY? i.e. ? x ?- ? = 115 and you have to select a number between 1 and 9 to fill the gaps and you can only use the no. once? :ugh:

I-AINC 18th June 2013 11:33

EZY maths was easier :uhoh:


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