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manta02 15th December 2010 11:37

Interview/assesment
 
who already done the interview could you report that day, what they ask etc etc, any information will be appreciate...thanks

Ben_Sisko 15th December 2010 21:24

any1 know if the aptitude testing plays a big part in overall process?

SW1 15th December 2010 21:36

whats involved in the assessment and do you already hold an A320TR? Just trying to gauge what kind of peeps they are inviting?

decky24 15th December 2010 21:53

wonder how many they interviewed

Superpilot 16th December 2010 09:06

App closed on the 10th (in practice 3 days ago), yet interviews were being conducted well before then and recruitment now almost over.

Can I call it a charade yet? :confused:

EK4457 16th December 2010 10:46

Yes you can.

meggriffin 16th December 2010 18:36

Does anyone have any real information about the recruitment process os is it all just hearsay at the moment. Has anyone thats type rated been called for interview yet??

VFE 16th December 2010 20:27

Everyone I talk to has been very tight-lipped, and they're not normally the types for tight-lippedness [sic]... if you get my meaning?

In other words: there's been very little happen yet.

VFE.

meggriffin 17th December 2010 11:00

So according to one guy, recruitment is 95% finished, and according to another guy not much has happened yet................ so who is correct???

Coffin Corner 17th December 2010 11:03

Somewhere inbetween? :E

Todders 21st December 2010 10:40

Wouldn't get too excited if your not TR'd on the bus. I was interviewed, sim checked and passed them all last year, was put into a hold pool, contacted them again when they opened the recruitment to see what was happening and just got told they are aware of all the profiles in the hold pool and would be considering all. Sounds to me like you either have to be rated on the bus or coming through CTC. Prob. more of the later, Sorry to be negative.

PS 73 rated

SW1 21st December 2010 17:04

So knowone here has been called yet?? Cant believe the rumour that all the recruitment and training has been completed already.....

REDARROW777 21st December 2010 19:28

Has anyone heard anything at all about the interviewing process? I really find it quite strange that absolutley no one is posting anything with regard to the interview.

I have been told that 2 people have been invited for interview last week and guess what......these two people have very very good contacts within EI...quelle suprise!!!! So it seems its a who-you-know and not-what you-know sort of jobs for the boys set up. I'm just waiting to hear just when these guys have a sim as I'm sure it all just a formality and I'm willing to bet anything that these two candidates will get Dublin as a base. Why did I bother at all sending in my application??????????????:{

Green Army 22nd December 2010 18:05

Interview details
 
Hi Guys,

I was wondering if there is ANYBODY out there who can help me with some details on what the interview format is. I would be most grateful if somebody can post something here or PM me with what is likely to come up in the interview.

It surprises me that there is a clear lack on this post regarding interview and selection details. Why is this? You see plenty being shared on different posts with other airlines. It would be nice if we can see the same here!

I have a friend of mine hoping to attend the selection. It has been years since I have been through the system. That's why I am pleading to the you guys. It would be amazing if somebody can respond or PM me!

I remember that the main interview was a very informal event. Two people, one pilot, one HR. Simple questions like: who are you, where are you from and things like that. Only aviation related questions had to do with CAT II/III minima. Comms failure and pilot incapacitation or some other simple scenario. That's it. All in all a very simple and informal event. Nice guys who aren't there to catch you out!

Let me know if things have changed or what my friend should concentrate on!

Look forward to any replies!!

Cheers,:ok:

GA

Burger81 28th December 2010 12:07

CTC Pool
 
A friend of mine who trained through CTC has advised me he has been told that Aer Lingus have a TR course starting in the next few months for some of the CTC pool, so looks like us NON CTC/Oxford integrated low houred guys don't get a look in again! :mad::{

If you are low houred non integrated and have been contacted by Aer lingus, please post on here and give us some hope :rolleyes:

Muvo85 28th December 2010 14:05

I know of two people:

One from FR with no more that 1.5 yrs on the 738 who did the interview, the tests (?) and the sim check. Not sure if he passed but I would imagine he did and that he is waiting to start the TR.

And the other, went to the interview about two weeks ago and has yet to hear/be called for further.

Both are well connected to EI after a lot of well directed ass kissing over their very short careers in aviation (well done to them :D). However, I'm afraid they are the type of people who would never ever post anything here about their interview/sim checks with EI. They do however, read these posts and laugh to themselves at us poor souls! :(

Burger81,
Neither from CTC or Oxford! They're from a one stop modular course.

Superpilot 28th December 2010 15:21

The recruitment racists strike again!

tony2F 28th December 2010 16:18

a one stop modular, in other words PTC??

Superpilot 28th December 2010 19:27

But as the guy says, they had at least a years worth of multi-crew medium category jet time. Once you reach that stage IT DOES become a level playing field.

Muvo85 28th December 2010 19:52

Tony2f, :ok:

Superpilot, only one of them has a year and a half on the 73 the other has no more than 300TT.

kumbaya 28th December 2010 20:46

Why do they even bother advertising for jobs etc ?
I really hate the fact that it took me forever to fill out the form by hand, scan it etc....all for nothing.
I wouldn't mind it if we got a fair chance, but this is absurd.

(But anyway, congrats to the guys that got the job. I only wished i knew the right people.)

lesserweevil 29th December 2010 11:48

is it all over then? I got the email ... but nothing else :(

Love_joy 29th December 2010 20:25

I'm not sure what to make of this at all.... I can only imagine those who are 'in', if they even are, were previously in hold pools.

One has to wonder though, why they would go to the effort of advertising these posts at all? If it was truly a back hander setup, this wouldnt be necessary surely.

If the messages above are true, I'm disappointed. I'm desperate to return home, or at least get myself to a position on the air bridge home.

I've roughly 2500 hrs, and 3 commercial types. Jet and TP mix. Had the email, nothing further yet.

I'm still hopeful though.... Fingers crossed the quietness is simply due to the Christmas break!

Burger81 30th December 2010 09:49

Advertising vacant positions?
 
With regards to why do they advertise at all??.... i'm not sure if its anything like the real world in Aviation recruitment, but i am led to believe by a HR manager i know, that companies must go through the motions of advertising vacant positions, regardless of whether they already have people earmarked to fill the positions.... this way they can't be done for discrimiation!! Not sure of how true this is, but realastically, how much effort does it really take to post an advert, only to send out a generic email to everyone who has taken the time and effort to fill in the application form, then "file" these applications in the trash!!!
Its certainly not fair on those of you/us who meet the criteria, but just don't know the Chief Pilots, next door neighbours, childs music teacher, but i guess this will never change.

Good luck to all

max tanking 1st January 2011 14:12

EI Recruitment
 
To all of those out there wondering what the process is like at SHAMrock.

Been a little while since I went through the process, but if it helps. There were a couple of trips to DUB. First was a stupid set of IQ type tests. I believe they were called indices matrices, basically a what comes next type of affair. Matching patterns, and they start off pretty easy and get more difficult. They were ok if you took your time and looked for patterns. You can look them up online. Was trying to remember which site I used to practice, but if you get a call for interview I am sure I could find out.

The interview was on the same day. There was an HR bod and a management pilot. Usual why, how, tell me about questions. Tech questions were along the lines of what is VMCG/A, Mach tuck and coffin corner. Nothing new if you've been through the ACE book. I've heard of guys getting strange questions like How does a microwave work? TV work? Combustion engine?
Again pretty straight forward if you do your homework. They really are seeing if you will fit in to the Aer Lingus profile. Now that's a whole new thread!
If you get on well here it's into the A320 sim for the sim check.

For the sim assessment, you will have one of the old hand instructors. True gentlemen, everyone of them. They want you to pass. The brief is comprehensive and will give you all the information you need. If you are already on the bus, it will pretty much be a basic PC, if you have not flown airbus before, I might suggest having a very good go on a flight sim, and a read up on how the control laws on the airbus differ from what you're on at the moment. Even a quick hour in a sim at your own expense. That'll just give you a feel for the bus. No it's not cheating. If you're up against people that are type rated, its just increasing the odds in your favour.

If you get through the sim, you'll get an appointment for a medical. If you have a Class 1 you'll have no problems.

Hope that helps.
I don't know if they've started, finished recruitment. In all honesty I doubt if the dumb-asses in HR have a clue what's going on. Hassle the hell out them is my advice, in a nice way. Just so they know who you are. Not to the point of pishing them off. If you don't, and you are waiting for them to call you. It'll be a long old wait. Those with contacts will get a call, just because thats the way EI is. Be under no illusion, you will not be working for a legacy carrier. If you are with a decent jet carrier now, have a long think about making the leap. However, if you want to be home, then if you can deal with the time to command and all the other cr@p that comes with the job. go for it. Day to day, it's a great job. Just go in,do the job, have a laugh, get paid. Could be worse.

All the best.
Happy New Year.

Max

Its_me 6th January 2011 21:15

Aer Lingus
 
Does anybody know how is going the recruitment process at tis company?.
I applied for FO last december.
Could you tell me how is the live at Aer Lingus?, roaster?, sallary?, working conditions? ....

yoland 7th January 2011 17:58

All very quiet here,i guess the hard working HR dpt deserve an extra few days to recover after the festive season .:confused:

Love_joy 13th January 2011 15:51

Without being too specific, when did you undergo assessment in Dublin?

Ben_Sisko 13th January 2011 22:49

i'm still waiting, rang hr last week, they said my app hadnt gone yet to board yet due to disruption of snow over xmas period...which i find very hard to believe....dealings with hr from the start have been some what mystifying / baffling / confusing to say the least...

Love_joy 13th January 2011 23:05

Small price to pay if you get there in the end!

Still waiting for my interview....

Coffin Corner 13th January 2011 23:11

Same here, Lovejoy ;)

Ben_Sisko 14th January 2011 12:37

indeed.......

Balkanhawk 14th January 2011 16:49

Friend of mine in EI told me four are on the course at the moment. Don't know what their backgrounds were though but I will keep the ears open.:uhoh:

Lord Lardy 14th January 2011 18:10

I believe only 8 people have started so far. 5 appear to be cadet entry, 2 are ex military, and one type rated. There are at least 42 and perhaps 50 if not more jobs to be filled yet as far as I am aware. Aer Lingus have only one very busy A320 simulator at it's disposal. I believe the plan is to start courses every three weeks between now and the forseeable with 4 on each course. Interviews are ongoing and I understand they are covering all experience levels from cadet entry to airline experienced. I've heard pilots from various airlines, Ryanair, Cityjet, Aer Arann and some rated Easyjet people are currently going through selection along with low houred people aswell. It seems to only be the start of the process so I would be a little patient yet.

Love_joy 15th January 2011 00:46

Lord Lardy,

Many thanks for taking the time to share your comments. I had all but written off EI on this occasion...

If you read back through this thread you'll realise why. Plenty of rumours indicating the doors are as good as shut already.

I'll wait till the Summer before I give up completely ;-)

kumbaya 15th January 2011 06:42

Thanks for the info Lord Lardy, there's still hope it seems !

HowlingMadMurdoch 19th January 2011 15:11

Has anyone who has completed all 3 stages of the process in the last few weeks heard anything?

There must be quite a backlog of candidates through the process at this stage, yet the assessments continue full steam ahead.

I've heard of people receiving letters (negative) in the post after the interview stage only but I've yet to hear of anyone who has been through the 3 stages receive a thanks but no thanks letter or good news. (Apart from the 8 guys who've already started on 2 courses).

Must be patient...

SW1 20th January 2011 16:51

Received the following reply today after emailing HR requesting any updates:


Dear SW1,

We are confirming receipt of your inquiry as to the status of your application.

At this time, we are currently undertaking the initial screening process.

Due to the large volume of applications received, this may take some time so we thank you in advance for your patience.

Should you meet the necessary criteria we will be in contact in due course.

Best Regards,
HR Team

NukeHunt 26th January 2011 15:43

I'd applied back in December and hadn't heard anything since the standard "thanks for your application - we'll be in touch" email, then yesterday I checked my email to find this :-


Many thanks for your application form for the position of First Officer with Aer Lingus. The closing date for receipt of applications was 12.00 on Friday 10th December 2010 and we would like to confirm receipt of your application.

We are in the process of screening all applications and should you meet our criteria we may be back in contact with you. Due to the high volume of applications, this may take some time so we would like to thank you in advance for your patience.
It's pretty much identical to the one they previously sent back in December, but still it seems like there is still a small glimmer of hope that my application has done something to trigger another email response, and it hasn't been filed in the recycle bin just yet.

Coffin Corner 26th January 2011 16:46

Nuke are you bus rated?


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