Easyjet Strike?
 

Whats with the Easyjet strike ballot?

Are the pilots prepared to take this one to the picket line?:ouch:

yes:ugh::}

you bet! :D

count on it :mad:

Easyjet strike - why?

didn't you all get a pay rise not so long ago and more days off?? do you all want to drive this company to the ground...........

Troll Troll Troll Troll Troll........:ugh:

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No, we just want fair market rate compensation for our trade, given the very healthy state of the companies profits and the consequent obscenely huge bonuses for all the managers riding on the backs of the very high productivity of our crews.

As someone said, we didn't just come down the river riding on the latest bubble. :=

GM01 No but until aviation starts to treat Pilots & Cabin Crew and Engineers like human beings Employees will fight for their terms & conditions.
IMHO there is a cartel within the UK that is trying to drive crews salaries down into the gutter.
Lets keep the pressure on until somebody wakes up.
Before anyone jumps down my neck about being human. Why is it that it is deemed OK for Pilots to land an aircraft after being up(awake) for20 hrs and then drive home,(stby + duty) whereas a lorry driver would be charged by the police. Or position somewhere then operate e.g. Position in the back economy seating to banjul then immediatly jump in the cockpit and operate back. Most crew have seen all of this and more.
We deserve proper pay and conditions just like everybody else. Oh & if I make a mistake I can't just tear it up and throw it in the bin and start again!

For Mooney and GM
 

From the outside it looks that we just had a rise so we should be quite, the reality is that the last 4% was worth nothing when the RBI as been close to 4.5% in the last 12 months.
Then all we wanted was to have an improved package with more benefits.
We are asking better pensions (probably the worse in the industry), LOL, life insurance, sick pay etc...
Are we asking too much?
If you want to fly 350 a/C around europe you don't thing we should get a very competitive package?
Our is only good on surface, if you go deep it's just not good enough!
The problem is that so far pilots consider U2 just a step for their carreer not a long term prospect (thats' why we have so !!!!ty benefits) do we want to change it?
The company says yeas! so what we have to improve?
Just read above and you get your answer!!!
Speevy

Hurrah.....at last, I am glad you guys on threatening a strike, if your T&C's improve then everybody else will have to follow suit. When Easy became the dominant force in the market all T&C's were dumbed down with cost cutting hence salaries have suffered. You will have huge support from all the pilot community, it is about time we were paid a fair salary to compensate us for working very hard at very unsociable times of the day and night. Beat the management into submission and do not listen to all the spin that flies around it is all B....s..t! It makes it worse that the management are freeloading and getting huge reward for pushing bits of paper around!! You must stick together and send a message in no uncertain terms. For all the low houred guys who are keen to get on...try not to be tempted to side with the company because in years to come you will regret it. It is about time the pilot profession was reinstated as such. Too much dumbing down in this country.:ok:

Banjul? Easyjet fly to Banjul now?
You think easyJet is even close to being the worst in the industry? Dream on.

power to you guys, i only wish that we on the other side of the irish sea could get that well organished. I totally agree with the right to strike, if complaints to managerment about terms and conditions are fulling on deaf ears in the hope that you will go away, then it is fair enough that a ballot to strike gets held, sure it is then down to the company is it not, whether the strike goes ahead.

Best of luck lads and ladies. I salute your cojones and I can only hope that your stance might cause the apathetic muppets in ryanair to consider their position.

Nobody said it was the worst company- it isn't,by a long shot. But it is extremely profitable, and we seek a reasonable share of that bounty to reflect our part in that.The flying is the easy bit (no pun,etc.)-the hard bit is the turnrounds with minimal support from mgt to achieve OTP-loads of c*** on paper,but no faces on the ramp kicking butt.....sound familiar?

Good luck - you Guys and Girls at easyJet really do work hard and get "its legal" from the company too often.

"More respect and better T+C's":ok:

I wonder if a majority of airline company councils ( BALPA/IPA ) could join forces in a common assault on general T&C's within the industry and perhaps go for a mass walkout/ threat of strike action. As we all know, we are working a lot harder for less money, law of diminishing returns!! The situation is unlikely to improve unless we do something a little more extreme?:ok: It is time to stand up to be counted.

Monarch pilots are very close to a strike for similar reasons to those described above. We are trying to get our pay and conditions UP to the level of easyJet's current condiditons!!

Not saying you easy people shouldn't fight for a decent pay and lifestyle package, just reinforcing the view that nost UK companies have been making money and expanding on the basis of stiffling pilot pay and conditions over the last few years. In fact Monarch's Managing Director said precisely that to the Company Council at the start of present negotiations - how to p*ss off a workforce in one easy step!

All pilot workforces should be prepared to face down management over the coming year as we've reached a pivotal point in this industry. Either we take some of the power back or we sign on for decreasing T's and C's for the rest of our careers. That means facing down management no matter how long it takes!

I know from Europe, that once a year most airline chiefpilots (FBL) had a meeting at a nice, decent place. Talking about a lot of issues.
The same happened with tour operators.

Maybe there is a "combined acknowledgment" between some british airline managements to counter the attempt of pilots to improve their needs in a pilot shortage period?

Would not be surprised!

Unity
 

Remember, if we don't stick together now and we will pay the conseguences in the future...

1. No lifestyle improvement, maybe the company will decide that to keep the cost low is better to go 5254 (this one is coming from somebody in LTN)..
2. Then we will forget any RBI for 2008 and so on...
3. Local contracts for every base (which means some European bases will be overcrewed and cheaper workforce will be used in UK)
4. Balpa will loose power and T&C will go down

Stick together now and when the next low in the industry will come we will be prepared!
Speevy

You must all stick together and when it comes to a ballot for those in favour of industrial action if required, you must vote for it in order to send a very positive message to management. Management are either very thick skinned or just very thick as they like to play hard ball to show everyone who is boss, however, bad publicity, due to possible industrial action could affect bookings and management are convinced that us pilots will cave in before. The threat of industrial action is usually enough to make them think. Never accept the first/second offer as there is always a bottom line that they set in desperation.:=

I am sure you guys don't have the guts to go on strike!

Strike in this British Summer????

Remember your brollies and wellies!!

Clearly a well thought out strike this just as the summer starts to wind down!

such a strike would have a terrible impact on easyJet expansion :ouch:

OMG....Give it another 5 years and you will be down to the Ryanair conditions!!...At least you guys and gals have the balls to stand up for yourselves and fight, good for you :) Our lot are so eager to climb the greasy pole that they tread on everyone beneath them much to Leo Hairy Camels amusment Im sure!

I'm so glad i'm getting out of low cost. Having said that, if you get your way easy will be a great place to be.

Best of luck, and well done for having the balls!

MG :ok:

I thought Easy's T and C's were well regarded by the pilots. They certainly have been improving and all pilots knew the score when they joined.What can they strike about it's not like things have been changing for the worse?


Is this thread just someone having a laugh?

What about just keeping up with inflation, and interest rate rises?

identify a working body or an airline or a public sector body that has had a payrise that keeps a salary up with RPI .. you will be hard prsseed

You obviously don't know anything about EZY life. Things are changing to the better all the time on the outside, and mostly on the inside as well, but it doesn't help to get shiny new planes and better rosters if you don't have money to by food when you get home to the Miss's. Lifestyle-wise EZY is probably becoming one of the better places to be, but with the new salary proposal from the company versus inflation we are talking a salary reduction with likewise decrease in a pension that is already too low.

The argument that "it is better than many other places" is :mad::mad::mad:.

And Well with that attitude you can join somewhere else than here pal :ugh:

It is about what is right for the future, not about who is best to work for, and how things "used to be"!!!

Anyway, there are some good brains in EZY management, so hopefully they will realise that it is cheeper to give us what is reasonable then having us all sit on the ground for a couple of days trying to score one of the sweet honeys from the galley :ok:

Common guys!

Our pay is only keeping up with other UK operators (Thomson, First Choice, GB, BMI etc) for the first 3-5 years. Then most outfits starts rewarding their crew for loyalty.

We have a pension that is nothing short of a joke.

At the moment its estimated that ezy has a cash reserve of around £1 billion. Over the past years we have delivered record profits. In the coming 18-24 months we are expected to deliver even higher profits.

Why should we not push to improve our T&Cs, to build a career airline giving us a share in the success of the company that WE have created?

Don´t forget that when times get tougher the company will turn around and push our T&Cs towards a record low. Now is the time to show that we are standing up together, united against the company!

If we fail to show unity now, we will soon be looking towards RYR T&Cs full of envy!:mad::uhoh:

who knows ! MOL is expected to leave Ryanair in a year or 2, perhaps the management will improve T and Cs and RYR can become the very best place to be ! :hmm:
Remember, 5 years ago nobody wanted to work for easyJet, and look at how things have changed ! what about Ryanair in 2010 ?!...

Really? Just look at the current pay talks and the contract/tax problems with the continental bases, and you wouldn't be able to spot the difference between whether a guy named Ray or a guy named Andy is in charge... :hmm:

T&C's for pilots generally are very poor for the work that we do. They have been eroded year on year down to the lowest common denominator. It is time that we ALL stood our ground and started making the powers that be listen. I understand there is unrest at Monarch as well as GB recently. Pay needs to increase and stay ahead of inflation. Maybe it is time to leave flying and look for something else.:D

If you go looking for something else then you really will discover the facts of life...............................

skylion.... thanks for the lesson in life. I have a number of businesses outside of flying and was hinting that perhaps my time would be best spent elsewhere. I think I have discovered quite a few facts of life,but thanks for the concern.:ok:

Strangely the BALPA cc have decided to recommend an offer which is virtually identical to the one which was to be balloted upon for industrial action.

I am confused.

Reading the Newsletter, observe the following, especially the first part. At least my "interpretation"!

"We have secured the best possible settlement without resort to industrial action /which would be damaging to both sides and put other important issues at risk. /

Maybe your CC have been offered some back handers to push the deal through and recommend it to the workforce...after all it happened once before in 2001.

Good luck guys.