So how is life at good old flybe? You guys miss me? :p

I well remember those two clowns on the Dash fleet who were playing silly buggers in the sim. Chopped a lot of people for purely personal reasons... completely unprofessional. Hope they haven't wormed their way back into training.

Anyway, never mind all that, how's life with you guys? Anyone flown the new jet yet?

Strange thing was that they were both pretty good F/O's, the power must have gone to their heads... or maybe that took lessons from that other tyrannical turboprop trainer, PE. In fact the turboprop fleet seems to have had more than it's fair share of muppets with "small man" syndrome.

One of the reasons I didn't want to go onto the Dash - at the time, the training department was a complete shambles. The Fleet Manager was a great guy though, and a very sad loss.

I had a great time with PE albeit on the flying clog. Was sorry to hear he'd gone of the rails a while ago. Is he still there?

Oh ha ha ha ha ha...... dream on, lads... := := :ugh:

speedrestriction
 

For AUG one initial course (Capt & FO) in SEA and one in ARN
In SEP don't have the big picture, but I'll be running one in ARN With more to follow as more TRI's are coming though the TRI sausage machine (and reducing the trainer shortage)

Hmmm, maybe I should come back and put the old TRI to good use! I kinda miss the BHX crewroom... such good coffee... :}

PE!! ????
If it is the Same PE from Down Under, then I can't say I have ever had any Prolems with him. OK guy in my Book.:ok:

I think the PE you are talking about is a different one, he's the nice guy in BHD.

Full story
 

Apparently the idividual concerned was so poor on line training, unable to setup the nav, that he was returned for "remedial training" - but still not chopped! Are they THAT short of bums in seats? :ooh:

OK so what has changed in terms of Ts and Cs with Flybe?

I hear the bond is now 13,500 GBP non -reducing for 3 years? Is this an industry first? A square bond?

What is the likelyhood of command if you join with over 1200 hrs MCC/turboprop and a command recommendation?

Smokie

The PE we are talking about was the vertically challenged ex-Base Captain of Leeds.

It used to take two to three days to calm down new recruits when they got to line training, such was their simulator experience...

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The vertically challenged TRE (not PE), did indeed fail folk for being one knot below V2. And if you went through the accel alt on the V1 cut scenario (400' at the time), he wanted you to go back down to 400' before you accelerated.
I've personally never had a problem with PE, though perhaps he is affected by the phases of the moon.
T'other one's still there, though a lot more relaxed now...and no, he still hasn't any jet time, though he must be mighty close by now.
RD, your coffee machine is still in EDI, though looked a bit sorry for itself, last time I saw it...and what you doing on here? Running out of money?:=

Ah, the old EDI coffee machine... I miss the the old girl! :)

I still read here a bit, haven't posted for ages. Been too busy starting companies and doing other fun stuff... but I'm missing flying a bit, so currently looking for some contract work. Who knows, I might be back in Euroland for a while! :D :D

dv8

Thanks for the info.

SR

Hmmm,
Smaller the plane...bigger the ego quite often,my mate used to work for BACON and there were some 'gods' there,

Must be frustration at flying the dash or some sort of willy defienciency...

Re failing for 1 knot below V2 on the eng fail profile , you would need to get the definitive answer from a TRE but i believe it is a mandatory item , allowing the speed to decay below V2 is a real serious matter , especially an a swept wing aeroplane .

Have seen a couple of guys being asked to repeat the SE profile in my current mob (EZY) for doing the same thing . Both the TRE's were total gents , this item however was non negotiable .

NF

Speed must never be below V2 on one donk, nil further you are correct.

I have heard that the aformentioned PE is no longer gainfully flybing

Don't bet on it. Current thinking is that 40+ sectors is a ridiculous amount, and it should be 30. And yes, they will give very serious consideration to failing those who require anything extra.

I'll let you make up your own minds of the wisdom of that course of action.

Whilst I can't disagree, I'd bet my right bo11ock that it just won't happen (at least in the current employment environment).

egcc42whatever

Non reducing bond over 3 years.
20 days holiday

Bank holidays will be taken care of through the new advanced rostering...

They will certainly be taken care of, that's for certain. Especially if the company have their way and rob us of our DOILS. Although we voted to retain the original rostering system, it is not entirely as it was previously.
There are still moves afoot to steal our 8 DOILs.:ugh:

And as for the "New Contract" that was sneakily tried to be passed through the back door under the guise of,
"oh it is just to reflect the recent Name Change of the Company";
is probably the Best Swiss Cheese Contract I have seen for a long time.:=

Dont sign it then. Wasnt that advice given by the CC?

As this seems the most active Flybe topic around, anyone want to comment on the prospects for a DE command on the Dash at Exeter?
9 years experience, previous Turboprop command, jet FO just now and commuting into the middle of the country so EXT would be a huge reduction in driving as well as being able to do standby from home rather than a motorway services.:hmm:
Am I deluding myself or would I get home most days? Or reading between the lines is it so chaotic that the roster is meaningless?

I would have thought you stood an excellent chance of being considered for dec with that experience. As for exeter base, not sure how over/under crewed ext is at the moment. As for being home every night, you should be but the company is short on captains so the odd few days working from another base and staying in the local holiday inn is a strong probability from time to time.

Just to clarify AC's post.

I have spent nearly half my flying roster away from my home base in the last three months. About 5 WEEKS away from home in the last 3 months, no exaggeration. I may aswell be doing long haul. Granted it is the summer but that's not really the point is it? What did the COO's letter say "The enhanced lifestyle benefits of a regional airline"....riiiight!

I see no problem with a DEC but your base really depends where the shortages in crew are, unfortunately.

Are there any bases that seem to be consistently under-crewed or do the shortages crop up everywhere?

SR

Generally shortages crop up everywhere from time to time. It all depends on retirements/resignations, a change in aircraft numbers at a particular base. Some bases are more popular than others so people will be bidding to leave their base to move to another.

It seems to me that it's the Scottish bases (GLA/EDI) which are short of crew at the moment. But that's just my take on it, chaps from other bases may tell you differently.

Rumors from inside
 

I know, this should be in "Interview &..." tread but if something is moving, it would be better noticed from inside.

The infoline says that rec is closed and pool is full, but rumors are that it will re-opend aound Oct. Any chance? I have previously downloaded the endless form but (I apologize for my ingenuity) I do not understand the meaning of "P/UT" in the hours breakdown section...Anything to do with DUAL received? Thanks to those who can clarify.

Good luck

PZ :ok:

That would be "pilot under training" so yes, duel :ok:

I think that "Duel" is probably right!:E

Totally agree...We began fighting with planes that don't fly straight and level, then with HRs departments to get those CVs through and constantly with the bank...:{

In the past, when it was all about women, honour,guns or swords and foggy dawns it was easy to know who was the winner...:E

keep fighting then...BTW: any news from insiders?

PZ :ok:

FlyBE First Officers
 

FlyBE first officers you should be ashamed of yourselves. I'm sure you would all like a pay rise and yet you squandered the chance to have an F/O on the company council. Expect another pay proposal that benefits jet captains and training captains, like the previous one.:ugh:

I imagine about half the membership are F/Os so why can't there be one on the council?

Is it a closed shop, jobs for the boys and all that?

Without any representation on the CC, I have begun to wonder what union membership benefits there are.

I believe the call goes, "NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION"

Tea anyone?

I could not agree more. You took the words right out of my mouth.:D

Further to the replies by AC and CM.

Probably quite good, but don't plan to spend much time there. From my "Road Trips" over the last 3 months, BHD, BHX, EDI, GCI, JSY, NWI and SOU are all favourite destinations for some or all of your 5 to 6 day block. Changes happen on a continuous basis, often at short notice, to the point you wonder what the point of producing a roster really is. You may as well be on permanent "Standby" as Flybe's policy seems to be that during that 5 or 6 day period they can do anything they like with you. The only thing you can plan on is that you can't plan anything at all!

For a while it's all rather amusing, but when you finally wake up you realize the whole thing is a shambles and the distinctly average remuneration is not worth all the hassle. Basically, they're "crisis managing" but not quite succeeding. There are too many aeroplanes, not enough pilots and if rumours of a mass exodus in the next few months are even slightly close to the truth, then how the winter schedule with lots of new routes is going to be achievable, God only knows.

Roster stability could go a long way to fixing my particular grip, but then it's been tried before and if you can roster people up to the maximum, on a regular basis then who's going to back off a bit to give a bunch of "over paid" pilots a better life style?

Cynical? Me? Not a bit of it.

Or you could just do what most F/O's are doing or thinking about doing and vote with your feet and walk!


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Couldn't agree more!
 

I voted for him! Still, it would tie a decent bloke to an airline where things just don't really add up - if SL has any sense he'll go where he'll be appreciated a bit more; for example, any other airline of a decent size!

Fo's in flybe should hang their heads.....

I think Banging their heads together would be more appropriate!:ugh: :ugh:

What utter bilge you guys do talk sometimes. What do you do if your "elected F/O" gets promoted to captain, sling em off? And its a bit off to suggest that the guys on the flybe CC dont represent and fight for F/Os just as hard as they do for captains.
I assume the incumbents must be doing something right if they have been re-elected, or is that to obvious.
Stop whinging and get behind the CC, from what I've heard, things are building up nicely in flybe