Temporary and then to what? Asia? The new standard “deal” for 320/737 captains in Europe seems to be around €6-7000 gross on a contract via agency with no pension, no or very low sick pay, 8 days off per month spread out over the month and no fixed base.

Good luck.

I understand, that Monarch and Air Berlin pilots need to pay their bills.

Still, you can compare it to the Ansett/Trans Australian situation in 1989. The original employees got out-manoeuvred, and other labour took their place.

They were called :mad:, and to this day the situation cause tension.

I am aware, that the Australian pilots all resigned in order to put pressure on the management, but I fully understand their anger.

Nonsense
 

In 1989 there was a strike.
There was hiring ban put in place by IFALPA.
Those who flew, did so knowing they were strike breaking.

None of those factors are in play today.
Is it cost reducing? Yes
Will it erode the SAS contract over time? Definitely
What are the SAS pilots doing about it? Nothing

Matthew 5:5 is not a suitable strategy to address your issues.

Incorrect. EZY have taken a lot of TREs. No DECs are starting before April. There is no FO recruitment until September at the earliest. How do I know this? Because I was sat in the old Concorde House talking to the easyJet pilot recruitment team in one of the Monarch drop in sessions they set up. Virgin hired 50, a fair few of them were LHS at Monarch so a lot of FOs kicking around.

Correct. I'd imagine as soon as easyJet do FO assessments the floodgates will open.

All of SAS's christmases have come at once with Monarch going down.

Believe you me, the unions tried. EU laws actually don't allow the unions to oppose this, it is within a company's right to establish subsidiaries. At least that's what the legalese said when the unions read it.

ProfessorSnape said

Incorrect. EZY have taken a lot of TREs. No DECs are starting before April.

This is incorrect!

RHINO - in which case that's excellent news! I'm not aware of a single captain who has a date before April but if they do I'm very happy for them. It was a right pain for many just trying to book an assessment as it required constant monitoring of the site for a day to pop up!

DEC's started nearly two weeks ago...

Dear SAS pilots,

Much like the Cathay/49'er conflict You can not expect other pilots to fight Your fight.
You start the fight, then others might join in.

Legal mumbo jumbo about why You have been unable to do something is just bs.

Stop looking for excuses for doing nothing, You have been doing that for 15 years and see where that got You!

You do know right that all our planes we’re parked up 1,5 years ago to get rid of the “A and B scale”? More than can be said about Cathay? It’s got everything to do with the “legal mumbo jumbo”. Public support is long gone in this low cost era.

I am of the opinion the unions could have a tougher attitude in some issues we’re facing but had there been a reasonable way to stop this I am sure they would’ve.

172,

Yes I am aware, also aware You just signed a new 3 year contract to get a few % payraise while SAIL gets of the ground!

Public support and reasonable solutions are just more excuses.

You have to be prepared to wage war on management, talk will get You nowhere.

C195,

It's limited by CLA, but still too many :{

hd,

3 year agreement that can be waived after 2. And no, I wasn't in support of that either.

Hopefully SAIL will soon be written off as a one time loss, just as Snowflake, Spanair, etc.

According to the IAA website, still no AOC.

What's happening at SAS Ireland? I see that two A320NEOs have been delivered to Stockholm Arlanda and EI-SIA is currently in Shannon? What's the very latest therefore?

As everyone knew 6 months ago: No AOC.

How long did it take Norwegian? A year? SAS is in for a long wait.

Run while you can...

I might be wrong, but I'm sure they couldn't fly from Stockholm to Shannon without an AOC. Only the initial delivery flight is exempt.

Crew training is being conducted in Ireland

No AOC. Confirmed by SAS management in several Scandi newsmedia today...

Don’t confuse AOC and registration. Just because a plane has an irish registration doesn’t mean it has to be flown in an irish AOC. Therefore, if that irish registered plane is flying it can do so in any kind of AOC.

So according to mates at SAIL, they received a letter from SAIL CEO announcing the receiving of AOC couple of days ago.

... and at the very same time SAS tells scandi media (børsen.dk) "no AOC yet".

Sounds like they are stringing along their SAIL employees.
Any day now, any day.

Tell us, how many of those mates of yours are getting paid while they wait?