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Boeing operator 10th Sep 2015 19:01

All recruitment is closed but they say should open soon again for the aircrafts coming next autumn. Hear they will only open for CPT and FO then and not RCA since they have so many in the holding pool and also upgrade from within. As well a factor is that they only need very few RCA for each aircraft. So if you are a narrow body CPT you must now join as FO, unless you have wide body PIC time.

My experience when I fly on the 787, is that most of them are quite satisfied with Norwegian long haul. Perhaps they don't visit this forum. But I believe they see how things have improved the last year, and how it constantly is improving. I know many of you that won't agree, and that's fine. Go ahead and say that I am an idiot. But I have also been there, in a five star airlines. We all have our reasons to go somewhere else and perhaps end up in Norwegian long haul. For me, I value the full package offered.

Boeing operator 10th Sep 2015 19:02

Courses from October until January, about new 50 pilots. All filled up.

RTO 20th Sep 2015 19:17

Direct Bondi is spot on as always, I would recommend adolf to shut up and read his posts, you might learn something.

trigger21 22nd Sep 2015 17:57

With the need for more pilots over the next few years I keep hearing that Norwegian LH will be improving the T&C's next year together with offering additional new bases in UK. Any truth in this?
How many days off on average does a Capt get each month in UK at home?

Boeing operator 22nd Sep 2015 18:57

The rumor is a 40% salary increase, not confirmed yet. Average days off is 12. BKK based less, UK based more. Rumor new crew base in ORY and BCN. New bases in UK is probably for 737 MAX that will fly long haul, but not for the 787 pilots.

Arewerunning 22nd Sep 2015 20:25

Bondi sometimes scare me: he is always right! Are you the devil?

Nevertheless, thx for the info you provide my Bondi! Is very very much appreciated

trancada 22nd Sep 2015 20:31

Boeing Operator, ORY and BCN will be new base for the 787?
Do you have any information about the A320Neo, still in their plans?

737 Jockey 23rd Sep 2015 11:41

A320 Neo are being leased out or sold on. There are no plans to operate a dual fleet in short haul, doesn't make sense.

BCN and ORY are rumoured to be new LH bases. BHX and/or MAN for SH.

Boeing operator 25th Sep 2015 12:48

Looks like the recruitment is open again. Check norwegian.com. Only FO and CPT this time. Hear they have RCAs waiting to start. :ok:

Kobus Dune 27th Sep 2015 15:09

Beware - the Rishworth website states that pilots are "employed by our UK crewing company" - an employment agency leasing pilots to other airlines, specifically, Norwegian. However, there is no reference to this so-called "UK crewing company" in the Contact Us section of the Rishworth website. I suspect it is a broom cupboard somewhere in Crawley.
All employment agencies in the UK are regulated by:- The Conduct of Employment Agencies and Business Regulations 2003. Any pilot engaging with Rishworth via their "UK crewing company" should be familiar with this legislation.

So it seems that the contend of the bond is unenforceable for the following reasons:-
In the UK registered unemployed are obliged to seek work or have their benefits reduced and in some cases stopped entirely (JSA - Job Seekers Allowance regulations). Therefore, if you are registered unemployed (even for a week), interview for a position with Norwegian and offered employment, you are obliged to accept employment at the first opportunity or have your benefits stopped. Effectively, you are forced to sign a bond against your will. If at some later stage you decide that the working conditions are not to your liking (much has been written about the shameful management etc.), and seek alternatively employment, you are prevented form doing so by virtue of the bond. This is effectively Indentured Servitude and illegal under the UK Human Rights Act 1998 and European Convention on Human Rights.

JW411 27th Sep 2015 16:55

New callsign - same old drone!

JaxofMarlow 27th Sep 2015 17:21

JW411 - But is it wrong ?

Direct Bondi 27th Sep 2015 17:39

JW411:
There is only one Bondi and apparently, one plagiarist.

Kobus:
If you intend to quote any posts, kindly use quotation marks and reference the author. Alternatively, produce some original work!

Jax: I still believe the information in my original post to be correct.

With all this recruitment activity, does anyone have news of direct employment with Norwegian, as promised in writing by CEO Bjorn Kjos?

tripulante521 27th Sep 2015 19:38

There is no sign of permanent contract with Norwegian on the horizon. Expiring contracts in 2016 with Rishworth will be replaced by new ones from OSM Aviation.

Direct Bondi 27th Sep 2015 21:35

This is not good news and, if true, contradicts the Kjos letter to the DoT in which he promises "direct employment with a company in the Norwegian Group after a transitional period."

Being employed full-time with an agency and rented part-time by Norwegian, with no labor rights nor labor principles directly with Norwegian, could be a contributing factor why "half of Norwegian's pilots want to quit" - E24 Norway News 9/26 - Link:

Halvparten av Norwegian-pilotene ønsker å slutte - Jobb - E24

The news report also states:

"The pilots in Norwegian are dissatisfied with their employment. A new survey shows that half the pilots did not see a future in the company"

"The survey, carried out among 800 pilots in the group, also shows that 30% say they are looking for jobs in other companies and 75% of pilots surveyed responded that they would not recommend Norwegian as an employer"

Any plans for the LGW 787 pilots to also join BALPA ?

737 Jockey 27th Sep 2015 22:25

Yes. Norwegian Long Haul are joining forces with Short Haul and will be covered under the same BALPA recognition agreement with OSM. Shame it's not directly with the Organ Grinder though! :sad::{:mad:

The Crew 28th Sep 2015 05:26

I finally received an email from Rishworth or NLG ( who knows) stating the position that i had applied for is now closed however i am invited to re apply for the same position ( but different). WTF. Its been 5 months and thats their response.
Good luck to all who continue to persue this option. Personally these arrogant agencies need a preverbial kick up the a$$.

fade to grey 30th Sep 2015 05:57

I wouldn't say joining forces.
A lot of LH have long memories and bad memories of being in BALPA before, we want something different.

Speedoneeighty 30th Sep 2015 08:36


Originally Posted by fade to grey (Post 9132362)
I wouldn't say joining forces.
A lot of LH have long memories and bad memories of being in BALPA before, we want something different.

You do have something different. You have the worst conditions in the western world.

twentyyearstoolate 30th Sep 2015 09:40

See Rishworth has emailed recruitment is now open, with a new application system. They must be gearing up for mid 2016 I guess.

Any more news on this 40% Pay rise, or just rumour BS?!


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